Conceald Handgun License after DACA?

[4justice]

Is anyone else thinking about getting a CHL or any other license in your state what will allow you to carry a handgun? I'm curious if DACA recipients will be able to have full benefits to buy a handgun and allowed to carry. I believe you only need a government ID and a SSN.

[engineergirl]

This is a right for citizens only. The make you fill out a form where you have to state this. Then they do a quick FBI background check using your social.
How do I know this??? My bf just bought one last month. It was his birthday and I went with him.

[4justice]

This is a right for citizens only. The make you fill out a form where you have to state this. Then they do a quick FBI background check using your social.
How do I know this??? My bf just bought one last month. It was his birthday and I went with him.

What state are you in? This is NOT just for US citizens. Texas only requires that you have been a legal resident of that state for the past 6 months before you fill out an application for a CHL.

[engineergirl]

NM. My bf did have some trouble getting a gun. The person there was a bitch. So maybe it was just that shop. And that's what she told us. Lol maybe cuz I look Mexican.

[4justice]

This is what I found on Texas laws and I'm thinking anyone who was simply deferred action would not qualify:


If I am a legal resident alien, can I get a license?

It depends. A resident alien who has been admitted to the U.S. under an immigrant visa category will generally be eligible for a concealed handgun license. However, under federal law, an alien who has been admitted to the U.S. under a non-immigrant visa usually is not qualified to purchase a handgun and thus is not eligible for a license.

If you legally reside in Texas and were not admitted to the U.S. under a non-immigrant visa, you may be eligible.

[Ianus]

This is what I found on Texas laws and I'm thinking anyone who was simply deferred action would not qualify:


If I am a legal resident alien, can I get a license?

It depends. A resident alien who has been admitted to the U.S. under an immigrant visa category will generally be eligible for a concealed handgun license. However, under federal law, an alien who has been admitted to the U.S. under a non-immigrant visa usually is not qualified to purchase a handgun and thus is not eligible for a license.

If you legally reside in Texas and were not admitted to the U.S. under a non-immigrant visa, you may be eligible.
You need a green card minimum judging by what is in bold.

[Frank Knight]

Sigh. (http://blogs.findlaw.com/tenth_circuit/2012/05/no-right-to-bear-arms-illegal-immigrants-are-not-the-people.html)

US vs Huitron-Guizar confirmed that we don't have a right to bear arms as illegal aliens.

I don't know about other states, but in Californian non-citizens are essentially banned the ability to have arms due to harsh laws regarding the transportation of firearms. This combined with other state gun laws effectively deprive those of us in California from firearms.

[4justice]

I did further research on this and since "deferred action" is not actually being here "legally" and still deemed as "unlawful status", then you may not be allowed to have a firearm. However, there are certain exceptions by the ATF that do allow certain people to have firearms, even if they are here on temporary visas.

[Dres2011]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Instant_Criminal_Background_Check_System

Sections 922(g) and (n) of the Gun Control Act[3] prohibits certain persons from shipping or transporting any firearm in interstate or foreign commerce, or receiving any firearm which has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, or possessing any firearm in or affecting commerce. These prohibitions apply to any person who:[1]
Has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year
Is under indictment for a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year
Is a fugitive from justice
Is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance
Has been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed to a mental institution
Is illegally or unlawfully in the United States
Has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions
Having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced U.S. citizenship
Is subject to a court order that restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner or child of such intimate partner
Has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence

[tyler129]

i dont like when retarded kids shoot guns and think that they're cool

and then go on DAP and then ask if it's ok to get gun license

[obsolete101891]

Sigh. (http://blogs.findlaw.com/tenth_circuit/2012/05/no-right-to-bear-arms-illegal-immigrants-are-not-the-people.html)

US vs Huitron-Guizar confirmed that we don't have a right to bear arms as illegal aliens.

I don't know about other states, but in Californian non-citizens are essentially banned the ability to have arms due to harsh laws regarding the transportation of firearms. This combined with other state gun laws effectively deprive those of us in California from firearms.

You can buy a pistol in Cali as a permanent resident. But NO ONE can carry a concealed weapon in public, I love Cali but hate their gun.policies.

[4justice]

i dont like when retarded kids shoot guns and think that they're cool

and then go on DAP and then ask if it's ok to get gun license

Wtf are you talking about? I'm about to be 27 and I have a Criminal Justice degree which is the biggest field in which guns are used. I have actually thought about being in law enforcement when I have everything in order in the future. By the comment you made, the only retarded kid here is you.

[obsolete101891]

Wtf are you talking about? I'm about to be 27 and I have a Criminal Justice degree which is the biggest field in which guns are used. I have actually thought about being in law enforcement when I have everything in order in the future. By the comment you made, the only retarded kid here is you.

Pardon my ignorance, but what can you do with a degree like that??

[4justice]

Some of the jobs you can get with a CJ degree are: police officer, probation officer, crime scene investigator, forensic specialist, legal assistant, county clerk, correctional officer, security specialist....and a few more that don't particularly come to mind right now. I'm thinking pursuing a law degree some day though. My main goal has always been to become a prosecutor.

[Frank Knight]

You can buy a pistol in Cali as a permanent resident. But NO ONE can carry a concealed weapon in public, I love Cali but hate their gun.policies.

To transport guns via vehicle you do need to be a citizen though. (http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/travel) Most of California is hardly walkable, so in effect non-citizens can't have guns, unless they intend to keep 'em home. Damn California and its gun laws. =/

[MalditoDuende]

just go to a gun show. they dont ask for anything and dont do background checks. At least where I live

[4justice]

just go to a gun show. they dont ask for anything and dont do background checks. At least where I live

My neighbor and I love guns. We've been to a few guns shows in the past and to the shooting range. He has a few nice guns that he has let me shoot a lot. He's actually a permanent resident so he's all good in that aspect. I recently read though that a gun dealer here in Texas was spending some time in prison for selling somebody a gun who was not here legally. Also, the ATF website states that anybody who is not here legally and purchases a firearm can be prosecuted and spend 2 to 5 years in prison.

I've always wanted to have my own for home protection and to have in my vehicle because Texas is big on protecting yourself and your property. But it looks as if I won't be enjoying that privilege for a while.

[Daniel909]

Wtf are you talking about? I'm about to be 27 and I have a Criminal Justice degree which is the biggest field in which guns are used. I have actually thought about being in law enforcement when I have everything in order in the future. By the comment you made, the only retarded kid here is you.

Hey man, nice degree. I am actually majoring in Criminal Justice too. Trying to get into the law enforcement profession. What sucks is most agencies here in California require you to be a US Citizen. The good part is the limit of applying is age 35. So I have 15 more years, and I am pretty sure by that age I will be a US Citizen.

[4justice]

Yeah it's a really fun major. Good luck man, I hope it works out for you.