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DeseoUnPoco 09-26-2009 07:19 AM

Re: question about the dream act
 
working with false documents will not disqualify you from the dream act.

The only way it would come back to bite you in the arse is if you knowingly used a specific persons identity/SS# like a citizen friend or relatives stuff.

buckminsterfullerene 09-26-2009 10:51 PM

Re: question about the dream act
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prettyjolie (Post 142541)
USCIS doesn't see it that way, though. There is that 212(6)(c)(ii) lifetime ban for fasely claiming US citizenship. If you plan to ever "fix" your status, it will never happen and you'll be found inadmissible to the US forever without a waiver.

ahh... you hit the nail on the head, this is the part from the INA act that I mentioned before, this also applies to permanent residents.

I can see how it would be dramatically simpler to just say you are a USC and move along, but the risk in most situations is too great.

dreamy14 10-01-2009 01:09 AM

Re: question about the dream act
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prettyjolie (Post 142541)
USCIS doesn't see it that way, though. There is that 212(6)(c)(ii) lifetime ban for fasely claiming US citizenship. If you plan to ever "fix" your status, it will never happen and you'll be found inadmissible to the US forever without a waiver.

Hey guys...I hope this helps, I found this information on a website, hope this helps:
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Under INA §212(a)(6)(C)(ii), any alien who falsely represents, or has falsely represented, himself/herself to be a citizen of the United States for any purpose or benefit under the INA or any other Federal or State law is excludable from immigration to the U.S. There is only one very narrow exception to INA §212(a)(6)(C)(ii), which was implemented by the Child Citizenship Act of 2000 ("CCA"). In the case of an alien making such a representation, if:

Each natural parent of the alien (or, in the case of an adopted alien, each adoptive parent of the alien) is or was a citizen (whether by birth or naturalization);
The alien permanently resided in the United States prior to attaining the age of 16; and
The alien reasonably believed at the time of making such representation that he or she was a citizen;
In such a case, the alien shall not be considered to be inadmissible under any provision of this subsection based on such representation.

Waivers that apply to other offenses resulting in inadmissibility do not apply under this section.

There is no other remedy unless you have a basis to reopen the original determination and challenge it based on some new evidence

Read more: http://www.justanswer.com/questions/...#ixzz0SepLmKDT

2dreamORnot2dream 10-01-2009 01:47 AM

Re: question about the dream act
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamy14 (Post 142866)
...to be a citizen of the United States for any purpose or benefit under the INA or any other Federal or State law is excludable from immigration to the U.S...

A good lawyer may be able to argue that "any purpose" is too vague and that "benefit" represents some sort of federal aide. I never claimed USC for any government aid or benefit. If anything they got a benefit from me paying taxes and contributing to the economy.

In any case, I see everything through a risk/reward matrix. To me the bigger risk was not gaining job experience/education when deported than deportation and the ban itself. Yes this is our home. Yes we want to stay here. But there is a whole wide world beyond these borders, let’s not forget that.


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