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theboys2010 01-05-2011 02:21 AM

Re: You know, I think I am against CIR
 
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Originally Posted by nickbroken (Post 204796)
In the end, it is just an imaginary line on a map, 1000 years ago it wasn't there, 1000 years from now it won't be there.

Germany,France, Britain, Egypt etc have all been around for thousands of years so those lines will still be there in 1000 year in the US just like they will be in Mexico. There have been wars to secure those lines people never go back on wars they have won look at Isreal and the 7 day war they will never give back any land they perceived as being won in the war.

jamesp 01-05-2011 02:23 AM

Re: You know, I think I am against CIR
 
this is a Michelle Malkin-esque thread.

theboys2010 01-05-2011 02:26 AM

Re: You know, I think I am against CIR
 
Any Dreamer should want push for all pieced meal immigration legislation from E Verify , Border security, no chain migration etc because these are the issues that would put the voters mind at ease enough to vote for an immigration reform law. But in fact this all needs to go to the courts.

gwone371 01-05-2011 02:50 AM

Re: You know, I think I am against CIR
 
Im with you, Im strongly against the CIR... all I can say is F the CIR

dream_hope 01-05-2011 03:06 AM

Re: You know, I think I am against CIR
 
How can you be against CIR when it could benefit your parents? The same people who risked their lives and worked hard for you? Wow. If you can't stand up for other people who are just like you, no one will stand up for you.

Dreamer X 01-05-2011 03:48 AM

Re: You know, I think I am against CIR
 
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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 204807)
Right, part of CIR. We are behind in Immigration technology. This also means we do not have enough employees out there to do the paperwork?

actually they hired a lot more.

nickbroken 01-05-2011 03:57 AM

Re: You know, I think I am against CIR
 
Djekm

jkl 01-05-2011 12:35 PM

Re: You know, I think I am against CIR
 
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Originally Posted by eddy (Post 204728)
Really, let's think about it. One decides to go into a country, enter illegally of overstay their visa, then demands to be given permanent residence. I am not talking about the children brought here against their will, so don't bring this into the argument please. Do you guys really think it's OK to just give our parents permanent residency?

Yeah man I know you mean people come over here in violation of immigration law and then people want a law made up to make them legal. It's fucked up cuz in mexico (where I am from) they bring in illegals from central american to work in the plantations in SOUTHERN MEXICO. Mexico's economy is ranked 12th...part of the G20, but people are greedy and want more $$$. There are jobs in mexico but people don't want to do them for the wage that is paid there. Just like "Americans" don't want to do some of the jobs here for the wages that are paid here due to the abundance of labor. Most of the people I know don't give a damn about being USC, they just want some papers to be able to work. maybe they should give work permits.

pink 01-05-2011 01:04 PM

Re: You know, I think I am against CIR
 
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Originally Posted by dream_hope (Post 204824)
How can you be against CIR when it could benefit your parents? The same people who risked their lives and worked hard for you? Wow. If you can't stand up for other people who are just like you, no one will stand up for you.

ITA.....

pink 01-05-2011 01:42 PM

Re: You know, I think I am against CIR
 
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Originally Posted by eddy (Post 204728)
Really, let's think about it. One decides to go into a country, enter illegally of overstay their visa, then demands to be given permanent residence. I am not talking about the children brought here against their will, You were brought here against your will but there is no one stopping you from leaving now, why dont you lead by example and go home then? so don't bring this into the argument please. Do you guys really think it's OK to just give our parents permanent residency?

I am not talking about the children brought here against their will, YOU WERE BROUGHT HERE AGAINST YOUR WILL as a child BUT NOW THAT YOU ARE OLDER, THERE IS NO ONE STOPPING YOU, why don't you lead by example and leave? so don't bring this into the argument please. Do you guys really think it's OK to just give our parents permanent residency?

I guess this is just another way to blame the other undocumented for dream not passing. One of the biggest issues riding us right now is the sense of entitlement some dreamers have. America is tired of hearing the same sappy stories about how much we are victims stuck here and can't go home. Their response to us is-- since we are supposedly such innocent, good and righteous kids, Why is it that most of us are now adults and we we still won't do the right thing? why wont we just go home? some of you don't get that in light of everything people in general don't really give a f*ck about how we got here, who hopped fences vs who came in with visas and what not. All they see is a bunch of whining kids who feel the american public should be responsible for their parents bad judgement. The legal system does care however because overstayers are able to adjust by marriage while those who EWI are not. Obviousely they think a little more highly of those who came in on visas or came in legally right?. How about we just root for kicking out all the EWI and their kids because they never even made and effort to get visas in the first place? do you see how stupid that sounds? we are all undocumented , no matter how we got here. Please get off the soapboxes and stop pointing fingers because u cant get ahead and leave the rest behind. You would not even know what the united states look like if it wasn't for parents so why do u think you deserve to be here more than they do. I just cant stop *SMDH* at some of these threads and comments!


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