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davidrellis 09-20-2021 01:29 PM

Re: Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentari
 
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Originally Posted by Imthexman (Post 763972)
Exactly, after I saw Warners interview I realized this is all a show, he was clueless when asked details about the backup plan and other plain details and right away moved to pitch their typicall "I have been an advocate for a long time, these people deserve an opportunity blah blah blah"

POS, they don’t care at all.

Sorrybrah 09-20-2021 01:31 PM

Re: Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentari
 
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Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 763971)

Man, that's just sad.

davidrellis 09-20-2021 01:32 PM

Re: Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentari
 
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Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 763975)
Man, that's just sad.

It’s true though. McConell doesn’t fuck around. Unlike Chump Schumer.

Sorrybrah 09-20-2021 01:33 PM

Re: Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentari
 
Not to be a conspiracy theorist but seems to me that the democrats knew the vote is there but somehow uses Liz as a scapegoat to not follow through.

NK74 09-20-2021 01:35 PM

Re: Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentari
 
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Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 763961)
They might need to rely on the immigration topic come midterm elections. This is pure politics at its finest.

Do you think immigration is a political winner for Democrats? If anything it's a loser.

By definition no one who is primarily affected by this has the vote. But all the people who are against immigration reform have it as no 1 or no2 issue and they are all primed to vote.

Copper 09-20-2021 01:36 PM

Re: Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentari
 
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Originally Posted by davidrellis (Post 763976)
It’s true though. McConell doesn’t fuck around. Unlike Chump Schumer.

That’s because the Republicans don’t need a scapegoat on immigration issues, they’ll make the changes they want not giving a care what people will say.

Democrats on the other hand care about the “rules and democracy” but in reality that’s there excuse to hide the fact that they have no interest on fixing the immigration issue.

NK74 09-20-2021 01:36 PM

Re: Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentari
 
Also, railing against Democrats mean nothing. Yes, they can overrule the parliamentarian.

If they have 51 votes. And as long as Sinema and Manchin are in favor or the filibuster, they don't have 51 votes.

That's the situation we are in right now. And it sucks.

Oh and the fact that Republicans aren't willing to do anything is sort of a given, but it's the biggest reason nothing is happening.

Chn 09-20-2021 01:39 PM

Re: Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentari
 
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Originally Posted by davidrellis (Post 763976)
It’s true though. McConell doesn’t fuck around. Unlike Chump Schumer.

BS

McConell couldn't even keep John McCain in check when he needed him for the ACA repeal. That comment was just about baiting and provoking Democrats and to make them seem weak. And you fell right for it.

Copper 09-20-2021 01:39 PM

Re: Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentari
 
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Originally Posted by NK74 (Post 763980)
Also, railing against Democrats mean nothing. Yes, they can overrule the parliamentarian.

If they have 51 votes. And as long as Sinema and Manchin are in favor or the filibuster, they don't have 51 votes.

That's the situation we are in right now. And it sucks.

Oh and the fact that Republicans aren't willing to do anything is sort of a given, but it's the biggest reason nothing is happening.

What’s missing here though is the accountability, not just on immigration, but on all other issues the country is facing now, and Biden and Harris need to be more aggressive on accountability, because our country is at a stage where we can’t afford to sit back and watch.

Manchin and Sinema will eventually cost Democrats the Senate and the House because of their inability to govern. But they also know they can get away with it because no one will make them accountable for it.

davidrellis 09-20-2021 01:43 PM

Re: Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentari
 
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Originally Posted by Chn (Post 763981)
BS

McConell couldn't even keep John McCain in check when he needed him for the ACA repeal. That comment was just about baiting and provoking Democrats and to make them seem weak. And you fell right for it.

It was an important vote but McCain did the right thing. McConnell has gotten away with so many things such as the TCJA in 2017, the three Supreme Court nominees, the remaking of the judiciary branch. McConnell can be ruthless when he wants.


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