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john_smith 02-09-2021 02:22 PM

Re: DACA & Stocks + Webull / Robinhood
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 757222)
LOL @ ^^^€

Even worse let’s see what the uscis has to say about our “status”


Q5: If my case is deferred, am I in lawful status for the period of deferral?
A5: No. Although action on your case has been deferred and you do not accrue unlawful presence (for admissibility purposes) during the period of deferred action, deferred action does not confer any lawful status.

The fact that you are not accruing unlawful presence does not change whether you are in lawful status while you remain in the United States. However, although deferred action does not confer a lawful immigration status, your period of stay is authorized by the Department of Homeland Security while your deferred action is in effect and, for admissibility purposes, you are considered to be lawfully present in the United States during that time. Individuals granted deferred action are not precluded by federal law from establishing domicile in the U.S.

Apart from the immigration laws, “lawful presence,” “lawful status” and similar terms are used in various other federal and state laws. For information on how those laws affect individuals who receive a favorable exercise of prosecutorial discretion under DACA, please contact the appropriate federal, state or local authorities.

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 757233)
This isn’t about what the IRS considered us you idiot. The issue at hand - the question here is if lying that we are permanent residents for the propose of using these apps like Webull or RH can bite us in the ass years later when adjusting. Does this sink to your head?

Classic name calling when no real arguments exist. I rest my case.

The brokers at hand want to know your residency for tax purposes. They are not employers so they don't want to know your right to work. You just doubling down on your previous arguments, this is what desperation does.


You still fail to see the facts. They never asked if you are a "Legal Permanent Resident" the word legal makes a world of difference, for some reason your brain just chooses to skip that.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-09-2021 02:24 PM

Re: DACA & Stocks + Webull / Robinhood
 
You’re still avoiding the issue. You trapped yourself and are now backpedaling. You can’t even dig yourself out this hole you dug yourself into. Go back and reread where this started then maybe you can catch up. Next time make sure to sharpen your little baby tiger claws

john_smith 02-09-2021 02:30 PM

Re: DACA & Stocks + Webull / Robinhood
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 757238)
You’re still avoiding the issue. You trapped yourself and are now backpedaling. You can’t even dig yourself out this hole you dug yourself into. Go back and reread where this started then maybe you can catch up. Next time make sure to sharpen your little baby tiger claws

This is the 3rd stage. You are in denial. You feel so bad about yourself and how good I got you that the only resort left is lying and denial. You will never stop thinking about how good I got you that I will live rent free in your mind for many years to come. That was not my intention but okay, okay 👌

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-09-2021 02:51 PM

Re: DACA & Stocks + Webull / Robinhood
 
That is the worse type of damage control I’ve ever seen here lmao I am in denial for continuing on with what demise said a few pages back....? Lol you think we have permanent residency - omg this guy. Didn’t realize we had clowns here

john_smith 02-09-2021 03:02 PM

Re: DACA & Stocks + Webull / Robinhood
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 757238)
You’re still avoiding the issue. You trapped yourself and are now backpedaling. You can’t even dig yourself out this hole you dug yourself into. Go back and reread where this started then maybe you can catch up. Next time make sure to sharpen your little baby tiger claws

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 757242)
That is the worse type of damage control I’ve ever seen here lmao I am in denial for continuing on with what demise said a few pages back....? Lol you think we have permanent residency - omg this guy. Didn’t realize we had clowns here

This is the lamest response you could have come up with and it took you half hour to cook it.

The answer is yes, for Tax purposes you are a resident alien. Which is what brokers care about.

I didn't say for anything else, so for you to blatantly say "you think we have permanent residency" without context is disingenuous, and is a flat out narcissistic trait.

Yes, the day you found out you are a narcissist. Today is the day. Is it because of the shame ? Or are you just trying to save face? You are a narcissist.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-09-2021 03:12 PM

Re: DACA & Stocks + Webull / Robinhood
 
No one is talking about tax purposes. The question was if lying in an app like RH or the other ones that ask for residency can harm us later in life. You’re the one who brought up “wah Wahh we are permanent residency so why shouldn’t we use them Wahh Wahh” no bro we have daca which give us lawful present not legal then you asperger kicked and you started to spit out “no no no nooooooooo I mean for tax purposes! Reverse uno card!!!!! I win I win!!” Jesus Chris you have issues kid lmao

john_smith 02-09-2021 03:54 PM

Re: DACA & Stocks + Webull / Robinhood
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 757245)
No one is talking about tax purposes. The question was if lying in an app like RH or the other ones that ask for residency can harm us later in life. You’re the one who brought up “wah Wahh we are permanent residency so why shouldn’t we use them Wahh Wahh” no bro we have daca which give us lawful present not legal then you asperger kicked and you started to spit out “no no no nooooooooo I mean for tax purposes! Reverse uno card!!!!! I win I win!!” Jesus Chris you have issues kid lmao

Let's take a step back.

These are the original questions in this thread:


Question #1

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Are there users here trading with webull?
Answer is YES.

https://act.webull.com/ion/dKGWIokuK...eel/wb_oversea

Question #2
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If so, will those users get into INS issues in the future for stating that they are Permanent Residents when they weren't?
Answer is NO.

Let's see why.

First of all INS Doesn’t exist since the early 2000s, that agency doesn't even exist. So no you wouldn't get in trouble with them.

Let's assume you are talking about DHS for the sake of continuity.

When you choose Permanent Resident, you are not lying. So no you would not get in trouble. If they meant "LEGAL Permanent Resident" LRP that's on them not on you. But it's obvious that's not the question as RP (Permanent Resident) is not a legal term so you are not binded by it. The only place where you'll find such term is in the IRS. Legally, the IRS treats non-citizens that meet certain criteria as Resident Alien, there for Permanent Resident.
This criteria is substantial presence.


This is what I have elaborated thus far.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-09-2021 04:23 PM

Re: DACA & Stocks + Webull / Robinhood
 
You’re still treating this as if this is a tax issues lmao bro we are in a forum about immigration and many users here are wondering if lying in investment apps about our status would harm us in the future if the chance ever presented for us to adjust. Do you get it now? You’ve taken your pills yet?

john_smith 02-09-2021 04:50 PM

Re: DACA & Stocks + Webull / Robinhood
 
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 757245)
No one is talking about tax purposes. The question was if lying in an app like RH or the other ones that ask for residency can harm us later in life. You’re the one who brought up “wah Wahh we are permanent residency so why shouldn’t we use them Wahh Wahh” no bro we have daca which give us lawful present not legal then you asperger kicked and you started to spit out “no no no nooooooooo I mean for tax purposes! Reverse uno card!!!!! I win I win!!” Jesus Chris you have issues kid lmao

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 757256)
You’re still treating this as if this is a tax issues lmao bro we are in a forum about immigration and many users here are wondering if lying in investment apps about our status would harm us in the future if the chance ever presented for us to adjust. Do you get it now? You’ve taken your pills yet?

You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
Brokers care about your tax status because they are legally required to report taxes on your profits and losses.. their job is related to profits and taxes, yes it's all about taxes. I have been using these apps for quite some time. Obviously you haven't. Yet you speak as if you were the voice of reason when you have no clue.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-09-2021 05:05 PM

Re: DACA & Stocks + Webull / Robinhood
 
We ain’t taking about tax broker. No one is asking WHY these apps require our status lmao

See how you keep digging yourself deeper in deeper. All I am doing is walking around you while you keep digging your hole. Again let me make it easier for you. Lying about status is bad. Bad is lying about status. It’s a big no no - would lying bad ever come back and bite us if we ever tried to adjust?


I wanna help you by throwing you a rope but you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper. You might hit China


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