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DACA-IR-DA 01-13-2019 05:29 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 727600)
Cancellation of removal can overcome the permanent bar under 212(a)(9)(C).

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Originally Posted by jothesh2 (Post 727578)
The only loop hole I am aware of is being a victim of violent crime. If I was a victim then I would be able to adjust. I just remembered yesterday that sometime in the mid 90’s a group of guys came into the house with guns and robbed us when I was a child. I was in the house when it happened. I remember that the police came and my grandmother got sent to the hospital. Technically everybody who was in the house was a victim of an armed robbery, which is a violent crime. Would this be my golden ticket?

Are you talking about VAWA? There is also U-Visa.

jothesh2 01-13-2019 09:39 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 723147)
You could have adjusted it here if you never left USA.

You are blessed to at least have DACA. Did you apply for AP?

It would be way too risky to apply for AOS. I would still speak to another lawyer.

Yes, I think you would have to wait for another legislation.

You can request from a lawyer to see if they can obtain FOIA.

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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 727619)
Are you talking about VAWA? There is also U-Visa.

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 727600)
Cancellation of removal can overcome the permanent bar under 212(a)(9)(C).

I think it’s U-visa .

Demise 01-13-2019 09:39 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 727618)
That would be IJ’s decision.

You have anything to add to the discussion or do you just like talking for the sake of talking?

DACA-IR-DA 01-13-2019 11:37 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 727643)
You have anything to add to the discussion or do you just like talking for the sake of talking?

I did. I am just saying that COR is not automatic. It has to go through a hearing and IJ will decide.

DACA-IR-DA 01-13-2019 11:38 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 727643)
You have anything to add to the discussion or do you just like talking for the sake of talking?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jothesh2 (Post 727642)
I think it’s U-visa .

Maybe. Talk to a lawyer about it.

Demise 01-14-2019 07:59 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 727656)
I did. I am just saying that COR is not automatic. It has to go through a hearing and IJ will decide.

Same how AOS is not automatic and for most part you need to put up a dog and pony show for the adjudicator.

DACA-IR-DA 01-15-2019 08:54 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 727669)
Same how AOS is not automatic and for most part you need to put up a dog and pony show for the adjudicator.

Can an attorney be present and do the talking?

Demise 01-20-2019 07:29 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 727943)
Can an attorney be present and do the talking?

The attorney can be present but normally the IO will ask you directly and attorney will generally only interject if you fuck up or if the IO is out of line.

DACA-IR-DA 01-21-2019 03:06 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 729353)
The attorney can be present but normally the IO will ask you directly and attorney will generally only interject if you fuck up or if the IO is out of line.

Ok so an attorney’s correction overrides the beneficiary’s wrong answer? I hired an attorney so he will be present at the interview as well. Thanks for info.

Demise 01-22-2019 12:14 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 729412)
Ok so an attorney’s correction overrides the beneficiary’s wrong answer? I hired an attorney so he will be present at the interview as well. Thanks for info.

In general IOs treat attorneys like they're air.

DACA-IR-DA 01-22-2019 03:18 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
This thread is very beneficial.

DACA-IR-DA 01-23-2019 07:21 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
My interview was scheduled on 1/18/19. I’ve had one RFIE and that was for birth certificate with English translation. I know the beneficiary can get another RFIE/RFE at any stage until a decision is made.

Are my chances of another RFIE/RFE lower now?

Also, do I need my mother’s birth certificate since she was the petitioner? I-130 was approved.

Demise 01-24-2019 01:50 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 730123)
My interview was scheduled on 1/18/19. I’ve had one RFIE and that was for birth certificate with English translation. I know the beneficiary can get another RFIE/RFE at any stage until a decision is made.

Are my chances of another RFIE/RFE lower now?

Also, do I need my mother’s birth certificate since she was the petitioner? I-130 was approved.

As long as anything needs clarifying you maybe get an RFE but they usually try their hardest to avoid issuing more than one.

Since I-130 was already approved then USCIS operates under a presumption that your family relationship exists and your mother is a USC or LPR.

They wanted your birth certificate because I-485 requires it, they do not doubt that you two are related or anything.

DACA-IR-DA 01-24-2019 03:05 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 730196)
As long as anything needs clarifying you maybe get an RFE but they usually try their hardest to avoid issuing more than one.

Since I-130 was already approved then USCIS operates under a presumption that your family relationship exists and your mother is a USC or LPR.

They wanted your birth certificate because I-485 requires it, they do not doubt that you two are related or anything.

Great. Thanks.

Red neck 04-12-2019 01:00 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
Any more experiences for EB3 with 245i.

I think I might have finally found an employer that would sponsor me.

Timeframe?

What category of EB3 does it really matter?

Demise 04-13-2019 08:29 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 735241)
Any more experiences for EB3 with 245i.

I think I might have finally found an employer that would sponsor me.

Timeframe?

What category of EB3 does it really matter?

Probably around 6 months for the PERM. After that's done you can concurrently file I-485/I-485A/I-765 with I-140.

The subcategory of EB3 doesn't matter unless you're from China because there "Other Worker" is backlogged more than regular EB-3 there.

Red neck 04-15-2019 03:45 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 735274)
Probably around 6 months for the PERM. After that's done you can concurrently file I-485/I-485A/I-765 with I-140.

The subcategory of EB3 doesn't matter unless you're from China because there "Other Worker" is backlogged more than regular EB-3 there.

and timeframe for i485?

DACA-IR-DA 04-15-2019 07:04 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
You can get an employment sponsor while being EWI/Overstay in USA assuming grandfathered under 245i?

DACA-IR-DA 04-15-2019 07:06 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 735320)
and timeframe for i485?

This depends on your Field Office.

Demise 04-16-2019 05:24 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 735320)
and timeframe for i485?

Hard to say, it depends mainly on the field office. Since you are adjusting under 245(i), you have to be interviewed.

Red neck 04-16-2019 07:58 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 735335)
Hard to say, it depends mainly on the field office. Since you are adjusting under 245(i), you have to be interviewed.

What do you mean by interview?
Like to see if I have been here since 2000?

Demise 04-16-2019 04:31 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 735336)
What do you mean by interview?
Like to see if I have been here since 2000?

It'll be a regular EB-3 interview, they're pretty much required by regulations to give you an interview if you adjust under 245(i).

DACA-IR-DA 04-16-2019 07:17 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 735336)
What do you mean by interview?
Like to see if I have been here since 2000?

When was your petition filed that was on or before 4/30/01?

Red neck 04-17-2019 08:03 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 735349)
When was your petition filed that was on or before 4/30/01?

before 01 sometime mid 2000 and it was for my father, his brother petitioned him. My dad already became a resident through my citizen brother. I dont know what happened to my dads other petition since I believe they are still backlogged to like 97-98

DACA-IR-DA 04-17-2019 03:51 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 735360)
before 01 sometime mid 2000 and it was for my father, his brother petitioned him. My dad already became a resident through my citizen brother. I dont know what happened to my dads other petition since I believe they are still backlogged to like 97-98

Do you have the receipt?

Red neck 04-17-2019 03:53 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 735367)
Do you have the receipt?

Yea it has my dads name and all of his other siblings

DACA-IR-DA 04-17-2019 08:08 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 735368)
Yea it has my dads name and all of his other siblings

What’s the date on it?

Is your name in it?

Red neck 04-18-2019 08:03 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 735395)
What’s the date on it?

Is your name in it?

I dont have it with me but its for sure mid 2000


And no my name is not on it.

Demise 04-18-2019 01:41 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 735412)
I dont have it with me but its for sure mid 2000


[b]And no my name is not on it.

Doesn't have to be.

DACA-IR-DA 04-18-2019 02:37 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
[quote=Demise;735432]
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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 735412)
I dont have it with me but its for sure mid 2000


And no my name is not on it.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't have to be.

He has to have the original or copy as evidence and proof of physical presence 12/21/00.

Red neck 04-18-2019 03:28 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
[quote=DACA-IR-DA;735436]
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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 735432)

He has to have the original or copy as evidence and proof of physical presence 12/21/00.

Yes my father has the original copy. I have proof that ive been here since before then.
medical records report cards etc..

I just have to find an employer who will sponsor me.

I may have found one but they are dragging to respond. It is a full time job afternoon and weekends so it would be my second job since I do not want to quit my job.

If they dont respond I may have to find another job.

DACA-IR-DA 04-18-2019 06:57 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
[quote=Red neck;735438]
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Originally Posted by DACA-IR-DA (Post 735436)

Yes my father has the original copy. I have proof that ive been here since before then.
medical records report cards etc..

I just have to find an employer who will sponsor me.

I may have found one but they are dragging to respond. It is a full time job afternoon and weekends so it would be my second job since I do not want to quit my job.

If they dont respond I may have to find another job.

I would get that original petition in your possession as well and bring it to the interview. It is good to front load the 12/21/00 part. My lawyer sent in multiple documents proving it. Get as much evidence as you can.

By the way. What happened to that petition? Was it denied?

Demise 04-19-2019 08:44 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 735438)
Yes my father has the original copy. I have proof that ive been here since before then.
medical records report cards etc..

I just have to find an employer who will sponsor me.

I may have found one but they are dragging to respond. It is a full time job afternoon and weekends so it would be my second job since I do not want to quit my job.

If they dont respond I may have to find another job.

Being a derivative you have to prove that your father (the principal) was here on 12/21/2000. You do not have to prove your own.

spaintoamerica 09-29-2021 08:38 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
Hi all, reviving this thread with a 245i q of my own.

My mother and I were petitioned by her then husband in 1997 (I-130). The petition was approved but they never moved forward with it due to marital issues. Fast forward to now, their child (my half sister) is a USC. Would she be be able to petition for me? I believe I qualify for 245i+ I arrived with a visa in 1996 but overstayed + I used AP once in 2015. I’m consulting an attorney this week. Thanks.

taoni10 09-29-2021 10:01 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by spaintoamerica (Post 764415)
Hi all, reviving this thread with a 245i q of my own.

My mother and I were petitioned by her then husband in 1997 (I-130). The petition was approved but they never moved forward with it due to marital issues. Fast forward to now, their child (my half sister) is a USC. Would she be be able to petition for me? I believe I qualify for 245i+ I arrived with a visa in 1996 but overstayed + I used AP once in 2015. I’m consulting an attorney this week. Thanks.

Which visa did you use when you arrived in 1996?

spaintoamerica 09-29-2021 10:33 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by taoni10 (Post 764416)
Which visa did you use when you arrived in 1996?

It was a tourist visa

NattUhhLee 09-29-2021 01:56 PM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by spaintoamerica (Post 764415)
Hi all, reviving this thread with a 245i q of my own.

My mother and I were petitioned by her then husband in 1997 (I-130). The petition was approved but they never moved forward with it due to marital issues. Fast forward to now, their child (my half sister) is a USC. Would she be be able to petition for me? I believe I qualify for 245i+ I arrived with a visa in 1996 but overstayed + I used AP once in 2015. I’m consulting an attorney this week. Thanks.

Seeing as the petition was approved, you should be able to use the 245i grandfathering. But just be aware that as a Sibling of a US Citizen, you would be categorized as a F4 visa preference which as of October Visa bulletin is backlogged to 2007.

Two questions: Are you currently married? And has your sister tried petitioning for your mother yet? Assuming she also entered with a visa, your mother (as a parent of a US Citizen) would be immediately eligible for AOS. And then upon receiving her Green Card could petition you as an unmarried adult child of a Permanent Resident which has a shorter backlog, current Visa Bulletin shows 2016. So a 5-6 year wait in comparison to a 14-15 year wait..

Demise 09-30-2021 05:52 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by spaintoamerica (Post 764415)
Hi all, reviving this thread with a 245i q of my own.

My mother and I were petitioned by her then husband in 1997 (I-130). The petition was approved but they never moved forward with it due to marital issues. Fast forward to now, their child (my half sister) is a USC. Would she be be able to petition for me? I believe I qualify for 245i+ I arrived with a visa in 1996 but overstayed + I used AP once in 2015. I’m consulting an attorney this week. Thanks.

Assuming that the husband was a USC, you'd need your own I-130 since immediate relative category does not allow derivatives. If you had one then yeah, you fall under the "old" 245(i) where you do not need to prove physical presence on Dec 21, 2000.

So yeah, you can adjust via any means, only caveat is that F4 category is backlogged about 14 years. Would be faster for your USC sister to petition for your mother and then for your mother to petition for you in F2B.

Alternatively you can seek employment sponsorship since the wait times there are much smaller.

spaintoamerica 09-30-2021 09:11 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
Thanks all! I did have my own I-130. My sister just petitioned for my mother this week and the attorney mentioned about a year for her GC approval. Perhaps via my mother would be the best option.

I wish I could check wait times per country but noticed most countries other than Mexico/China/few others are lumped into one group.

Alternatively I’m an executive assistant with a decade of experience for a well known tech company but only have my Associates Degree. I might be able to qualify under skilled workers visa. Will confirm options with attorney today.

spaintoamerica 09-30-2021 09:12 AM

Re: 245(I) question "grandfathered derivate beneficiary alien"
 
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Originally Posted by NattUhhLee (Post 764432)
Seeing as the petition was approved, you should be able to use the 245i grandfathering. But just be aware that as a Sibling of a US Citizen, you would be categorized as a F4 visa preference which as of October Visa bulletin is backlogged to 2007.

Two questions: Are you currently married? And has your sister tried petitioning for your mother yet? Assuming she also entered with a visa, your mother (as a parent of a US Citizen) would be immediately eligible for AOS. And then upon receiving her Green Card could petition you as an unmarried adult child of a Permanent Resident which has a shorter backlog, current Visa Bulletin shows 2016. So a 5-6 year wait in comparison to a 14-15 year wait..

I’m not married!


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