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eva02 12-09-2016 02:49 PM

Re: Dick Durbin, Lindsey Graham Unveil Bill
 
Remember guys a border security bill can not pass while republicans do not have a filibuster proof majority. They need to work with democrats.

Chyno.02 12-09-2016 02:51 PM

Re: Dick Durbin, Lindsey Graham Unveil Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 592760)
Remember guys a border security bill can not pass while republicans do not have a filibuster proof majority. They need to work with democrats.

When will they have the majority?

oneday6 12-09-2016 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 592689)
At this point, I'll take anything that let me work and drive.

It's the simple things in life. lol

Ianus 12-09-2016 02:55 PM

Re: Dick Durbin, Lindsey Graham Unveil Bill
 
Democrats will likely filibuster any effort that is not comprehensive which includes a path to citizenship. In addition, Republicans only need a spending bill to increase enforcement at this point, and are not open to what they see as "amnesty"...even deferred action.

I think what looks likely for immigration over the next couple years

1. Is that DACA will likely end by a new conservative DHS secretary. Deferred Action in prior administrations always came with a notice to appear(removal proceedings). Technically, this is where the dangers lie. The concern lies with interpretation of law by an Attorney General Sessions and how it is carried out by the new DHS Secretary.

2. Prosecutions and interpretations by immigration judges and the BIA are likely to become more punitive. Meaning more cases for immigration judges.

3. Work-site enforcement and home visits will increase.

jaylove16 12-09-2016 03:01 PM

Re: Dick Durbin, Lindsey Graham Unveil Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 592763)
Democrats will likely filibuster any effort that is not comprehensive which includes a path to citizenship. In addition, Republicans only need a spending bill to increase enforcement at this point, and are not open to what they see as "amnesty"...even deferred action.

I think what looks likely for immigration over the next couple years

1. Is that DACA will likely end by a new conservative DHS secretary. Deferred Action in prior administrations always came with a notice to appear(removal proceedings). Technically, this is where the dangers lie. The concern lies with interpretation of law by an Attorney General Sessions and how it is carried out by the new DHS Secretary.

2. Prosecutions and interpretations by immigration judges and the BIA are likely to become more punitive. Meaning more cases for immigration judges.

3. Work-site enforcement and home visits will increase.

I think you are taking a very negative view on what's going to happen in the next few years. How do you factor in Ryan's comments from yesterday? Or even Trumps comment in that times interview? Democrats realize now that they are in no position to filibuster anything that would help us. It's not like before when we dreamers were in the shadows and they could afford to play those games. Now we are out there in the light, the government has our addresses and information. Things are more serious now!

JohannBernoulli1667 12-09-2016 03:06 PM

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Yes, I agree, this bill cannot and will not pass.

It is absolutely idiotic to market this as a way to "protect us" from Trump... Who came up with that reasoning???

Democrats? They lost, why are they trying to politize the situation even further..

I am so disappointed

I hope I am wrong...

jrpallares 12-09-2016 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 592765)
I think you are taking a very negative view on what's going to happen in the next few years. How do you factor in Ryan's comments from yesterday? Or even Trumps comment in that times interview? Democrats realize now that they are in no position to filibuster anything that would help us. It's not like before when we dreamers were in the shadows and they could afford to play those games. Now we are out there in the light, the government has our addresses and information. Things are more serious now!

I agree. It's one thing to learn from past efforts, but another to disregard the current situation. We now have concrete evidence that we are a benefit to American society and the economy.

2MoreYears 12-09-2016 03:13 PM

Re: Dick Durbin, Lindsey Graham Unveil Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 592763)
Democrats will likely filibuster any effort that is not comprehensive which includes a path to citizenship. In addition, Republicans only need a spending bill to increase enforcement at this point, and are not open to what they see as "amnesty"...even deferred action.

I think what looks likely for immigration over the next couple years

1. Is that DACA will likely end by a new conservative DHS secretary. Deferred Action in prior administrations always came with a notice to appear(removal proceedings). Technically, this is where the dangers lie. The concern lies with interpretation of law by an Attorney General Sessions and how it is carried out by the new DHS Secretary.

2. Prosecutions and interpretations by immigration judges and the BIA are likely to become more punitive. Meaning more cases for immigration judges.

3. Work-site enforcement and home visits will increase.

crossing fingers you are fucken WRONG!

jrpallares 12-09-2016 03:14 PM

Re: Dick Durbin, Lindsey Graham Unveil Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 592767)
Yes, I agree, this bill cannot and will not pass.

It is absolutely idiotic to market this as a way to "protect us" from Trump... Who came up with that reasoning???

Democrats? They lost, why are they trying to politize the situation even further..

I am so disappointed

I hope I am wrong...

That is a good point. Poor choice of words... It should not be based on an us vs them mentality. Maybe it is a way to start the conversation?

DogJuiceMan 12-09-2016 03:19 PM

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People in this thread throwing away bridge act, but recently they were like

;( no senor trump no es take mi DACA porfavor

Bridge Act is as close as we'll get to CIR for the time being, and takes us out of limbo land. I dont know about you guys but working and studing is a whole lot safer once its a LAW.

This whole notion of it'll kill CIR is bogus, its meant to be temporary while they get a fix for the rest of the 11 million. Why would anyone throw away solidfying their position in exchange for shooting for the moon is beyond me.

You cant take a next step if your footing is too wobbly to move forward.


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Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 592763)
Democrats will likely filibuster any effort that is not comprehensive which includes a path to citizenship. In addition, Republicans only need a spending bill to increase enforcement at this point, and are not open to what they see as "amnesty"...even deferred action.

I think what looks likely for immigration over the next couple years

1. Is that DACA will likely end by a new conservative DHS secretary. Deferred Action in prior administrations always came with a notice to appear(removal proceedings). Technically, this is where the dangers lie. The concern lies with interpretation of law by an Attorney General Sessions and how it is carried out by the new DHS Secretary.

2. Prosecutions and interpretations by immigration judges and the BIA are likely to become more punitive. Meaning more cases for immigration judges.

3. Work-site enforcement and home visits will increase.

Preposterous. Completely and utterly wrong. You could not be more wrong if you tried.


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