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piratedream 04-08-2009 11:33 PM

Obama to Push Immigration Bill as One Priority
 
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Originally Posted by New York Times
While acknowledging that the recession makes the political battle more difficult, President Obama plans to begin addressing the country’s immigration system this year, including looking for a path for illegal immigrants to become legal, a senior administration official said on Wednesday.

Mr. Obama will frame the new effort — likely to rouse passions on all sides of the highly divisive issue — as “policy reform that controls immigration and makes it an orderly system,” said the official, Cecilia Muñoz, deputy assistant to the president and director of intergovernmental affairs in the White House.

Mr. Obama plans to speak publicly about the issue in May, administration officials said, and over the summer he will convene working groups, including lawmakers from both parties and a range of immigration groups, to begin discussing possible legislation for as early as this fall.

Some White House officials said that immigration would not take precedence over the health care and energy proposals that Mr. Obama has identified as priorities. But the timetable is consistent with pledges Mr. Obama made to Hispanic groups in last year’s campaign.

He said then that comprehensive immigration legislation, including a plan to make legal status possible for an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants, would be a priority in his first year in office. Latino voters turned out strongly for Mr. Obama in the election.

“He intends to start the debate this year,” Ms. Muñoz said.

- New York Times

originalgabe 04-08-2009 11:45 PM

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Although a fragile juncture in time and a difficult balancing act face Obama, i see this as being overall a good sign that times are at least prepping for change.

And the McCaskills post? also a good sign.

El Che Indio 04-09-2009 12:16 AM

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when was this article written?

kenny1314 04-09-2009 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by El Che Indio (Post 124430)
when was this article written?

Obama to Push Immigration Bill Despite the Risks
By JULIA PRESTON
Published: April 8, 2009

angeleno 04-09-2009 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by piratedream (Post 124422)
... said the official, Cecilia Muñoz, deputy assistant to the president and director of intergovernmental affairs in the White House

Take that Alicrap.

meehx3 04-09-2009 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by piratedream (Post 124422)
- “He intends to start the debate this year,” Ms. Muñoz said.

eh...??? intends, thats not a good word..

K-Man 04-09-2009 02:03 AM

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^what the hell do you want from him? He's gonna sign the damn thing.

It's upto us to help gain more votes in the Senate to push this thing through. Jesus Christ everywhere I look the blame gets pinned on Obama; Republicans saying he's a socialist liberal, democrats saying he's not doing as a good job, illegals saying he's not supporting us like he should...

I for one am fortunate that he has ties with Senator Durbin and trust him to see this through, when he's able to, between being the President of a country that's in a shitty financial mess / war.

Fish 04-09-2009 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by meehx3 (Post 124445)
eh...??? intends, thats not a good word..

At least it's on the agenda. What else would you expect from times like these? I'm glad he talked about possibly bringing on actual reform.

Sonawabich 04-09-2009 03:51 AM

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Gotta postpone my suicide to fall. :)

I don't think I could take it one more winter though.

No pass, no reason to be alive.

2Face 04-09-2009 04:20 AM

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I just read this article right now. Friends, I am confident that Obama will begin addressing immigration reform this year. I'm just eagerly waiting till this summer..thats when the debate will be heated on this issue. It is up to us to continue our efforts of calling and spreading the word. Other than that, it is in the bag for us...we deserve it and we finally have a President who understands us and is willing to walk the walk. Keep it up guys! ;)

nevfo 04-09-2009 04:36 AM

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Haha. I thought this was a really positive article.

dado123 04-09-2009 05:48 AM

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Strong leadership by the prez is going to be essential.

YoungMoney 04-09-2009 07:56 AM

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Good! I hope the May Day marches set to take place this year will send them a loud message.
Maybe he expects the marches to break record numbers of '06, and '07 and so he plans to start talking about immigration reform and DREAM soon after.

lilbawler2001 04-09-2009 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by YoungMoney (Post 124470)
Good! I hope the May Day marches set to take place this year will send them a loud message.
Maybe he expects the marches to break record numbers of '06, and '07 and so he plans to start talking about immigration reform and DREAM soon after.

Those marches backlashed against us in 2006, i doubt it is going to bring any positive results for us during this bad economy.

CIR_DREAM2009 04-09-2009 09:51 AM

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To be fair, 90% of Democrats and 60% of Independents approve of President Obama. It's the Republicans, with 27% support, who are "dragging" his approval rating to "just" an aggregate total of 62%.

Gallup: Obama Approval Rating

President Obama will bring his popularity and White House team to help with immigration reform but immigration activists also need to build support for immigration reform in tandem. The conservatives and restrictionists have been screaming bloody murder and dire electoral consequences for Obama and the Democrats if they push immigration reform, but looking at the past two elections, their threats are turning out to be meaningless and politically impotent.

The American people want a solution to the border problem, and comprehensive immigration reform will increase border security while also providing a tough but humane way to deal with the undocumented population here in the United States.

Does Oprah Care? 04-09-2009 10:03 AM

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I agree those marches in May might not have been as helpful as one would imagine. I think the focus on a march this time around should focus on how great America is and broadcast the fact that with the new leadership America is returning to its rightful place as the beacon of the world and should hence pass CIR.

Positive persuasion should be the theme not threat filled demonstrations. Examples should be smiling marchers, people praying, people singing "God Bless America", american flags and an ethnically diverse crowd.

That would be a successful May Day.

Alex 04-09-2009 10:20 AM

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i agree, not a bunch of different flags waived around and words written in Spanish... people wearing Mexican bandannas; people DEMANDING things from the U.S government...

we have to be mature and showcase our point... if we walk around with "give me citizenship NOW!!" post boards, then i wont be surprised if they come and kick us all back.

and tell people to act with respect. please

feedback

chopstix 04-09-2009 11:47 AM

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it will be nice if all those marchers rather try to contact senators askin supports for Dream Act. I am not feeling for this Immigration Marching.

VaeVictis 04-09-2009 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonawabich (Post 124459)
Gotta postpone my suicide to fall. :)

I don't think I could take it one more winter though.

No pass, no reason to be alive.

Please tell me you are joking.

With regards to the article, this has injected me with quite a bit of hope, but I can imagine the fight ahead of us. No matter. We have a president who I think supports this for more than business reasons and will actually sign a stand-alone bill like DREAM if CIR falls apart.

MariaG1987 04-09-2009 04:30 PM

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Please vote and comment on this poll:

Should Pres. Obama begin to push for major changes to the immigration system this year?

We are losing at the moment, so tell friends and family to vote as well.

frbc13 04-09-2009 04:41 PM

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Please don't tell me they're about to march waving the foreign flags again.

piratedream 04-09-2009 08:43 PM

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Remember that the other side also has this article, ironically I first got it from my ultra-conservative friend who posted it up on FaceBook. He's against any immigration reform at all ("just deport them all"). I think it'll hit the media soon and be sensationalized on both sides.

Does Oprah Care? 04-09-2009 11:29 PM

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I would like to start a thread calming informing the board that winning in politics is 1/4 policy and calling legislators, 1/2 media management and 1/4 timing. Where do I go to start a thread, so far I have just be responding to threads? If I am missing something, don't fault me for being technologically challenged.

Policy and calling legislators Grade- A- From reading this site, I think the exists a systematic approach to contacting legislators and the level of participation and passion is high. There is always room for improvement but I think all the calls and emails show that Dreamers are doing well on this front


Media Management- B- I believe there is no coherent or strategic focus on how to make sure that the right wing spin does not choke out the immigration issue. I watched all the cable shows and the question they keep asking is " Is Obama taking on too much with his CIR objective?" This is just a tactical ploy to get him to pass on tackling this issue when he has high approval ratings and can get most of what he wants done. By next year, his ratings would have slipped and this issue would be harder to pass.
Our response should be- "Obama should not pass the buck on tackling this issue because he promised to be a transformative president that will tackle problems courageously and not pass it on to someone else."

We should form a media group or I believe the call it rapid response team to counter all the current spin.


Timing- We are all hearing that it is a bad political moment for the Dream Act of CIR because of the state of the economy which has some merit but this is also an unparralled opportunity given the fact that the we have an Executive that favors CIR and DA. Majorities in House of Reps and Senate. Politically, republicans especially Chairman Michael Steele should be taken to task and reminded that all the 8 red states that turned blue in the Pres. Election in 2008 were primarily because of hispanics and 2010 would not be different if republicans continue to stand in the way.

Michael Steele should be asked if he is a man of his word when he says he wants a "big tent" inclusive republican party or whether he wants to remain well known as a Rush Limbaugh lackey. His stance and the republican party's attitude towards CIR,DA in 2009 will not be forgotten in 2010.

There should also be a carrot. The should be suggestion that Republicans that vote for the DA/CIR will not be forgotten in 2010 if the party's rhetoric changes this year. It is a watershed moment for the republican party. We will know if they want to remain a party of the past or of the future.
In conclusion, politically this is not a terrible time to seek CIR

daffodils 04-09-2009 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 124477)
i agree, not a bunch of different flags waived around and words written in Spanish... people wearing Mexican bandannas; people DEMANDING things from the U.S government...

Exactly, we cannot demand anything from this government. We have to work for it and be happy with anything they decide to give us.

Those marches were embarassing to watch.

Alex 04-10-2009 09:36 AM

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thank you daff


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