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ECW 05-18-2010 05:13 PM

Undocumented students push Scott Brown on military idea
 
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Student immigrant advocates are pressing Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown to support a proposal that would allow undocumented students to gain residency if they want to join the military.

Group representative Kyle de Beausset said Brown showed interest in the military idea after they met earlier this month.

Renata Teodoro, the group’s development director, said students want Brown to meet undocumented students who would join the military.

Brown spokeswoman Gail Gitcho said that the Massachusetts Republican will review the legislation if and when it comes before the Senate.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_...military_idea/

Demise 05-18-2010 05:16 PM

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one more repub on the board i guess

gebodupa 05-18-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 159553)
one more repub on the board i guess

Way too soon to tell. Graham was on board at one point too.

OrlandoDREAM Act 05-18-2010 06:11 PM

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I FUCKING LOVE THIS!!!! PERHAPS DID THEY PAY ATTENTION TO ME AFTER ALL!!! We have to take a wait and see, but when they went to the office i let them know that Brown voted against the instate tuition bill in mass and that "instate tuition" should not even come up. Told them to focus on the military option and other aspects.

What is the use of having a military option if we are not going to use it? We can use it with people such as Brown. We get some using instate tuition. Others with getting a license. others by wanting to become doctors. And others with the military option.

DA User 05-18-2010 06:14 PM

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Graham is a automatic yes since he was part of the creation of the bill. I know he backed out but when its time to vote. It will be a yes from Graham and Brown was already considering this because he had spoken to Obama. So we have 2 Yes's from the Reps. We will get more when they stress the Border Security.

lilbawler2001 05-18-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159562)
Graham is a automatic yes since he was part of the creation of the bill. I know he backed out but when its time to vote. It will be a yes from Graham and Brown was already considering this because he had spoken to Obama. So we have 2 Yes's from the Reps. We will get more when they stress the Border Security.

We are talking about the dream act here not CIR. I wonder if you make comments like that just to piss people off.

gzmn_ntn 05-18-2010 07:50 PM

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Lol the funny part is that although the bill says only 2 years of service in the military then you will get your Permanent Residency card but their is no 2 year contract to serve in the military. As of right now the military only has 3 years and a couple of months of service contracts. Maybe they should play with that language and say that they will serve for at least 3 years since that is the minimum anyways.

DA User 05-18-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lilbawler2001 (Post 159569)
We are talking about the dream act here not CIR. I wonder if you make comments like that just to piss people off.

Right I know. Dream Act is part of CIR at this point.

DA User 05-18-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gzmn_ntn (Post 159574)
Lol the funny part is that although the bill says only 2 years of service in the military then you will get your Permanent Residency card but their is no 2 year contract to serve in the military. As of right now the military only has 3 years and a couple of months of service contracts. Maybe they should play with that language and say that they will serve for at least 3 years since that is the minimum anyways.

2 years in Military or 2 years in college/university and/or if you have already a degree. 2 years can be an exceptions for the Dreamers?

Demise 05-18-2010 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by OrlandoDREAM Act (Post 159561)
I FUCKING LOVE THIS!!!! PERHAPS DID THEY PAY ATTENTION TO ME AFTER ALL!!! We have to take a wait and see, but when they went to the office i let them know that Brown voted against the instate tuition bill in mass and that "instate tuition" should not even come up. Told them to focus on the military option and other aspects.

What is the use of having a military option if we are not going to use it? We can use it with people such as Brown. We get some using instate tuition. Others with getting a license. others by wanting to become doctors. And others with the military option.

appears i was wrong, all republicans are a waste of space

gzmn_ntn 05-18-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159579)
2 years in Military or 2 years in college/university and/or if you have already a degree. 2 years can be an exceptions for the Dreamers?

Dude i know i read the bill, my point is that their is no such thing as 2 years in the military, you either have to do 3 years or more and if you are going to do 3 years might as well as put it in the language to appease those politicians who would only vote for the DREAM Act because of the military option.

free2be 05-18-2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159577)
Right I know. Dream Act is part of CIR at this point.

Dream Act is also a stand-alone, and has been since last March. The CIR bill Dream is a part of (Gutierrez bill) is a marker bill only and has no chance of passage. The Graham-Schumer proposal was abandoned by Graham and makes no mention of Dream, while the Reid-Schumer-Menendez proposal mentions Dream, but is so border-heavy and lacks Republican support, and it's not even a bill yet!

So if CIR is not moving forward, and Dream is a bill ready to fly out of committee, then it makes sense to push for Dream and do it now, doesn't it? Why yes, it does.

OrlandoDREAM Act 05-18-2010 11:16 PM

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well, they can put in to adjust their status/get green card in year three. that is all. just like those getting a bachelors. they can put in to adjust when their finish their sophomore year. but i get your point.

dreamberry 05-18-2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by free2be (Post 159607)
Dream Act is also a stand-alone, and has been since last March. The CIR bill Dream is a part of (Gutierrez bill) is a marker bill only and has no chance of passage. The Graham-Schumer proposal was abandoned by Graham and makes no mention of Dream, while the Reid-Schumer-Menendez proposal mentions Dream, but is so border-heavy and lacks Republican support, and it's not even a bill yet!

So if CIR is not moving forward, and Dream is a bill ready to fly out of committee, then it makes sense to push for Dream and do it now, doesn't it? Why yes, it does.

If you are going to attempt to correct someone I suggest you know about the subject, if not, do some research.

Dream Act has been a stand alone bill since 01' althought it was not called Dream Act until the 108th congress.

plz-724 05-19-2010 12:33 AM

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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:Hell who knows maybe he'll go with it. :lol:

free2be 05-19-2010 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dreamberry (Post 159627)
If you are going to attempt to correct someone I suggest you know about the subject, if not, do some research.

Dream Act has been a stand alone bill since 01' althought it was not called Dream Act until the 108th congress.

I know a great deal about the subject. The Dream Act in Congress currently was introduced in March of 2009, which is what I was referring to. We all know it's been around since '01, and before that under other names. No need to get all worked up. And y'all wonder why us older members don't come around often anymore.

DA User 05-19-2010 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gzmn_ntn (Post 159583)
Dude i know i read the bill, my point is that their is no such thing as 2 years in the military, you either have to do 3 years or more and if you are going to do 3 years might as well as put it in the language to appease those politicians who would only vote for the DREAM Act because of the military option.

So what happens if you leave after 2 years? Does this mean we have to be in combat or any kind of job?

DA User 05-19-2010 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by free2be (Post 159607)
Dream Act is also a stand-alone, and has been since last March. The CIR bill Dream is a part of (Gutierrez bill) is a marker bill only and has no chance of passage. The Graham-Schumer proposal was abandoned by Graham and makes no mention of Dream, while the Reid-Schumer-Menendez proposal mentions Dream, but is so border-heavy and lacks Republican support, and it's not even a bill yet!

So if CIR is not moving forward, and Dream is a bill ready to fly out of committee, then it makes sense to push for Dream and do it now, doesn't it? Why yes, it does.

I would be happy with either bill as long as they pass something.

gzmn_ntn 05-19-2010 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159669)
So what happens if you leave after 2 years? Does this mean we have to be in combat or any kind of job?

If u leave the military? then you get a-wall and they send some guys after you. And well being in the military does not mean that your going to be in direct combat it depends on your job.

DA User 05-19-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gzmn_ntn (Post 159680)
If u leave the military? then you get a-wall and they send some guys after you. And well being in the military does not mean that your going to be in direct combat it depends on your job.

Guys after you to be forced to be in military?

gzmn_ntn 05-19-2010 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159764)
Guys after you to be forced to be in military?

NO, they send some guys after you, usually special forces guys or Military Police, they basically arrest you and court Marshall you for leaving the military before your contract is done. It's not that bad. If i were able to get into the military i would have joined the Marines but since am older and want to get my masters in Criminal Justice while in the armed forces i would join the Air Force lol, you hardly ever get shot at while in the Air Force.

Dreamer777 05-19-2010 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 159562)
Graham is a automatic yes since he was part of the creation of the bill. I know he backed out but when its time to vote. It will be a yes from Graham and Brown was already considering this because he had spoken to Obama. So we have 2 Yes's from the Reps. We will get more when they stress the Border Security.

There is no way you say shit like that OVER, AND OVER AGAIN. You must be getting a laugh out of this, either that or your just an idiot. CIR will kill DREAM, we want DREAM because it stands a MUCH BETTER CHANCE. And because I believe that DREAM has a more moral aspect to it since we are dealing with children brought to the U.S against will.


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