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Immigrant 08-25-2010 01:05 PM

New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...n/7169978.html

Quote:

Feds moving to dismiss some deportation cases
Critics assail the plan as a bid to create a kind of backdoor 'amnesty'
By SUSAN CARROLL
Copyright 2010, HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Aug. 24, 2010, 9:00PM
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Billy Smith II Houston Chronicle

The scene at the Harris County lockup last summer. Culling the immigration court system dockets of noncriminals started in earnest in Houston about a month ago and has stunned immigration attorneys.

The Department of Homeland Security is systematically reviewing thousands of pending immigration cases and moving to dismiss those filed against suspected illegal immigrants who have no serious criminal records, according to several sources familiar with the efforts.

Culling the immigration court system dockets of noncriminals started in earnest in Houston about a month ago and has stunned local immigration attorneys, who have reported coming to court anticipating clients' deportations only to learn that the government was dismissing their cases.

Richard Rocha, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman, said Tuesday that the review is part of the agency's broader, nationwide strategy to prioritize the deportations of illegal immigrants who pose a threat to national security and public safety. Rocha declined to provide further details.

Critics assailed the plan as another sign that the Obama administration is trying to create a kind of backdoor "amnesty" program.

Raed Gonzalez, an immigration attorney who was briefed on the effort by Homeland Security's deputy chief counsel in Houston, said DHS confirmed that it's reviewing cases nationwide, though not yet to the pace of the local office. He said the others are expected to follow suit soon.

Gonzalez, the liaison between the Executive Office for Immigration Review, which administers the immigration court system, and the American Immigration Lawyers Association, said DHS now has five attorneys assigned full time to reviewing all active cases in Houston's immigration court.

Gonzalez said DHS attorneys are conducting the reviews on a case-by-case basis. However, he said they are following general guidelines that allow for the dismissal of cases for defendants who have been in the country for two or more years and have no felony convictions.

In some instances, defendants can have one misdemeanor conviction, but it cannot involve a DWI, family violence or sexual crime, Gonzalez said.
Massive backlog of cases

Opponents of illegal immigration were critical of the dismissals.

"They've made clear that they have no interest in enforcing immigration laws against people who are not convicted criminals," said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates for strict controls.

"This situation is just another side effect of President Obama's failure to deliver on his campaign promise to make immigration reform a priority in his first year," said U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas. "Until he does, state and local authorities are left with no choice but to pick up the slack for prosecuting and detaining criminal aliens."

Gonzalez called the dismissals a necessary step in unclogging a massive backlog in the immigration court system. In June, there were more than 248,000 cases pending in immigration courts across the country, including about 23,000 in Texas, according to data compiled by researchers at Syracuse University.

Gonzalez said he went into immigration court downtown on Monday and was given a court date in October 2011 for one client. But, he said, the government's attorney requested the dismissal of that case and those of two more of his clients, and the cases were dispatched by the judge.

The court "was terminating all of the cases that came up," Gonzalez said. "It was absolutely fantastic."

"We're all calling each other saying, 'Can you believe this?' 
" said John Nechman, another Houston immigration attorney, who had two cases dismissed.

Attorney Elizabeth Mendoza Macias, who has practiced in Houston for 17 years, said she had cases for several clients dismissed during the past month and eventually called DHS to find out what was going on. She said she was told by a DHS trial attorney that 2,500 cases were under review in Houston.

"I had five (dismissed) in one week, and two more that I just received," Mendoza said. "And I am expecting many more, many more, in the next month."

Her clients, all previously charged with being in the country illegally, included:

An El Salvadoran man married to a U.S. citizen who has two U.S.-born children. The client had a pending asylum case in the court system, but the case was not particularly strong. Now that his case is terminated, he will be eligible to obtain permanent residency through his wife, Mendoza said.

A woman from Cameroon, who was in removal proceedings after being caught by the U.S. Border Patrol, had her case terminated by the government. She meets the criteria of a trafficking victim, Mendoza said, and can now apply for a visa.
Memo outlines priorities

Immigrants who have had their cases terminated are frequently left in limbo, immigration attorneys said, and are not granted any form of legal status.

"It's very, very key to understand that these aliens are not being granted anything in court. They are still here illegally. They don't have work permits. They don't have Social Security numbers," Mendoza said. "ICE is just saying, 'At this particular moment, we are not going to proceed with trying to remove you from the United States.' "

In a June 30 memo, ICE Assistant Secretary John Morton outlined the agency's priorities, saying it had the capacity to remove about 400,000 illegal immigrants annually — about 4 percent of the estimated illegal immigrant population in the country. The memo outlines priorities for the detention and removal system, putting criminals and threats to national security at the top of the list.
Up to 17,000 cases

On Tuesday, ICE officials provided a copy of a new policy memo from Morton dated Aug. 20 that instructs government attorneys to review the court cases of people with pending applications to adjust status based on their relation to a U.S. citizen. Morton estimates in the memo that the effort could affect up to 17,000 cases.

Tre Rebsock, the ICE union representative in Houston, said even if the efforts involve only a fraction of the pending immigration cases, "that's going to make our officers feel even more powerless to enforce the laws."

greentea 08-25-2010 01:24 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Nice!

Abaddon 08-25-2010 02:19 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Could this signal a moratorium on deportations, just as what the CIR organizations have clamored for?

Immigrant 08-25-2010 02:50 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abaddon (Post 171177)
Could this signal a moratorium on deportations, just as what the CIR organizations have clamored for?

It is not a moratorium; those with criminal convictions or recent arrivals would still be deported.

But if you have been in the US for more than two years and have no criminal record, then your case will likely be dismissed. However, you don't get work permit, so you would still have to work illegally until CIR passes.

Abaddon 08-25-2010 03:20 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
That is what the CIR organizations wanted. A moratorium on people who have been here longer than just two years and who are not criminals. They weren't asking for mass moratoriums, at least not the organization here.

dreamberry 08-25-2010 03:53 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
This is good news! :)

Side topic, does anyone know of any organizations/ useful resources that can help a dear friend? He has court next month for jay walking and after he was arrested they notified ICE officials.

PM me for guidance thanks guys!

Abaddon 08-25-2010 04:01 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
A list of free or low cost immigration services:

http://www.justice.gov/eoir/probono/states.htm

(Assuming he is going to immigration court, not civil)

dreamberry 08-25-2010 04:34 PM

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Thank you Abaddon!

RayMan4 08-25-2010 05:06 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
So then that would render laws like the one in arizona relatively ineffective. If ICE won't deport you then who will?? Take that az!

Qualia 08-25-2010 05:09 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
I expect massive tea party protests, lawsuits everywhere.

Immigrant 08-25-2010 05:48 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RayMan4 (Post 171197)
If ICE won't deport you then who will??

Sheriff Arpaio would deport illegals himself if it comes down to them.

Drive arrested illegals to the border, point his gun at them, and order them to walk back home. Deportation Sheriff Arpaio style.

2H2F 08-25-2010 05:57 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
If you read closely one of the dismissals was someone married to a U.S citizen, and the other was a human trafficking victim, ofcourse without a doubt those wouldnt face anything. Many of us are not one of those, we do not know in detail what they mean by who they are willing to let go.

Immigrant 08-25-2010 06:12 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2H2F (Post 171203)
If you read closely one of the dismissals was someone married to a U.S citizen, and the other was a human trafficking victim, ofcourse without a doubt those wouldnt face anything. Many of us are not one of those, we do not know in detail what they mean by who they are willing to let go.

Immigration lawyers are reporting mass dismissal of their clients' deportation cases. Like 5 per week. That's not normal.

Abaddon 08-25-2010 06:23 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
The Memo actually speaks more to people who have pending cases for immediate relief.


FROM AILA:

An 8/20/10 ICE memo from Assistant Secretary John Morton, establishing policy for ICE to request expedited adjudication of an application or petition for an alien in removal proceedings that is pending before USCIS if approval would provide an immediate basis for relief

chaiobabyblue 08-25-2010 07:44 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
So this is for people who already where in removal procedures... Not cases that r just starting?

pearl 08-25-2010 08:38 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Well i agree basically it is a big relief who are already in proceedings. But wht if any dreamie is arrested tomorrow or anyone who has been living here for more then 2 years gets arrested, they will not be deported according to this memo. If tht's a case then it's a big step, u know as many families have been deported even after living here for more then 10 years. As we have seen in 2007 when juan gonzales (dreamer) family was deported after their political assylm case was refused long time ago. Correct me if i'm wrong. They will just let it go and how will they survive if they have no work permit to work and earn living. Why are they doing half way situation, why can't they just let everyone give the deffered stay with work permit until some kind of CIR is passed like their initial memo suggested which came out in june this year. Let's hope n pray tht we all hear a good news soon.

YesWeCan 08-25-2010 08:52 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Is this a nationwide thing? Do we have a little, itty-bitty, miniscule breathing hole in the black whole that is our lives?

DA User 08-25-2010 09:47 PM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
So are undocumented immigrants protected now that have been here 2 or more years with no criminal records? When does this law take effect or is this a law?

What happens to a undocumented immigrant that has relations to a U.S Citizen?

Alex 08-26-2010 12:20 AM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
wait a min... i'm in removal proceedings and my case is currently pending on the federal court of appeals... what does this mean.. please someone explain, is this a speculation or actually they are doing this???... i appreciate it

angeleno 08-26-2010 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex (Post 171257)
wait a min... i'm in removal proceedings and my case is currently pending on the federal court of appeals... what does this mean.. please someone explain, is this a speculation or actually they are doing this???... i appreciate it

They're already doing this so it seems like you lucked out motha fucka.

Hopefully this will stop you from carrying your violin every time you set foot on this forum.

Congrats dear ;)

pearl 08-26-2010 12:34 AM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Alex, it's a very good news for u and sooo many others who are in d proceedings/deportation. Talk to ur lawyer. I'm sure he/she must be aware of it or maybe not then show this post. How long u have been in the proceedings for? Good luck:)))

Abaddon 08-26-2010 12:39 AM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Pearl, did you see my post? This news article refers to the Memo concerning people in proceedings who have applications pending to adjust their status.

Alex 08-26-2010 12:42 AM

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like abandon said... its not for me, its for other people :(

pearl 08-26-2010 12:57 AM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Well Alex, u mentioned that ur case is pending in the federal court.
So, basically this is just to relieves the courts from the burden of so many cases. They are dismissing d cases which have other petitions filed. Like if someone is in proceedings and is married to a US citizen and file for an adjustment, they are dismissing their deporations and leave all to the Uscis to decide their fates. This will save some time for the applicants AND the hassele too of going to d courts n all. Good news for some i guess. Alex r u in d proceeding due to denial of political assylum case???

Alex 08-26-2010 01:04 AM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
political asylum, ordered removed in 2005 by immigration judge... been pushing it through courts ever since...

pearl 08-26-2010 01:08 AM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
ohhh, do u have any other application pending??? How did u enter USA with visa or without.

Alex 08-26-2010 01:10 AM

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nope.. just the federal appeal pending (last resort).. i entered with a visa back in 1999

pearl 08-26-2010 01:16 AM

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wow, it takes that long since 2005.... Well i wish u all d luck and hopefully u might find someone who u fall in love and marry assuming she is US citizen, then u'll be able to adjust ur status. Atleast u'll be able to adjust here without leaving d country as u entered on d visa (good news).

Alex 08-26-2010 01:20 AM

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thank you.. good luck to you too... hope for the best :)

2H2F 08-26-2010 03:16 AM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Define the removal proccess, and how did you get yourself in that situation?

FrankoKid 08-26-2010 04:04 AM

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This made my freaking day man now i can go to bed and have a goodnight sleep :b so happy now ima dream that the DA passes

LuckyGirl 08-26-2010 08:51 AM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2H2F (Post 171278)
Define the removal proccess, and how did you get yourself in that situation?

Hello 2H2F!

Filing for asylum is one of the reasons why someone is in removal proceedings . You have to appear in front of an immigration judge and if your case is not approved you are subject to deportation. The only thing that would prevent your removal is a strong argument.

Another example is someone who is detained by ICE ( Immigration and Customs Enforcement). This person is in removal proceedings meaning that his/her case could either be approved or not. If you are approved then you will be released otherwise you have to return to your native country.

If you are not approved I think the judge asks you if you want voluntary departure or if you want to get deported ( I'm not too sure about this one but I think that's how it is). Both voluntary departure and deportation mean the same thing ( deportation) but I think that with voluntary departure you pay for your own flight (if you're detained).

Voluntary departure is more beneficial because you could reenter the U.S LEGALLY 3-10 years after you go back to your country. It all depends on the judges decision I guess. With deportation you won't be able to reenter for 10 years.

I hope this helps.

Ali 08-26-2010 10:27 AM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by angeleno (Post 171259)
Hopefully this will stop you from carrying your violin every time you set foot on this forum.

Congrats dear ;)

HAHAHAHAHA

oh gawd..

this is the best bit of news I've seen in a few years to ppl in our situation.

ECW 08-27-2010 07:49 PM

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You have to be applying to stay in the country.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_immigration

kc0716 08-27-2010 10:11 PM

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Oops sorry ECW..I accidentally reported your post lol..sorry..

So basically..this news is irrelevant to a lot of us (if not most).. :sadface:

To clarify (I read the article already)...Is it talking about the deportation cases against

A) people currently without status who already applied and are CURRENTLY waiting for citizen ship/P.R. to come through..

or..

B) people without status who have applied previously for citizen ship/P.R. but overstayed/something went wrong and now, have no status (illegal) ?


If it's B)..I'll go to sleep everynight worry-free about ICE raiding my house when I am not related in any crime...but I think it's most likely to be for A) people.

DA User 08-28-2010 12:41 PM

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Is this a law that is in effect?

Demise 08-28-2010 02:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DA User (Post 171428)
Is this a law that is in effect?

it's more of a policy rather than a written law, something like an executive order issued from DHS

DA User 08-29-2010 03:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Demise (Post 171438)
it's more of a policy rather than a written law, something like an executive order issued from DHS

Then the DREAMers should be getting some kind of a Temporary Protected Status right? Like a card or something?

Is this an official thing?

Demise 08-29-2010 03:12 AM

Re: New ICE memo stops deporting long term non-criminal illegals, effective NOW
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DA User (Post 171487)
Then the DREAMers should be getting some kind of a Temporary Protected Status right? Like a card or something?

Is this an official thing?

No, this is not the other memo. This is just DHS choosing not to push for deportation of people like us, it does not qualify us for any kind of pernament or temporary status. It's kinda like saying "we don't want you here but we will wait a bit before we kick you out", on the bright side it seems that if your case gets dropped you can apply through a spouse without getting a ban from US.

Pioja31 08-29-2010 04:44 AM

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Hi... I saw this message and maybe you know about my situation :)

do you know if the new ICE memo will help my case?

I came here with my turist visa on abril 2003 then I tried to get an assium on 2004 and was denied and I got voluntary departure to leave the country by 08/03/2005 but I never left... Then I got married with a US citizen on nov 2008 and I we did the I130 and got approved like 3 months ago but after that we didnt do the next step because the 10 years ban. We have 3 kids ( american citizens) and all my family ( mom, sister and brother are citizens too) I am just wondering if this new ICE memo can help me :)

thank you for your time....


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