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FrankV 01-08-2011 12:24 AM

Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst than Bush in Immigration.
 
Obama's PR campaign is doing its best to brainwash most Hispanic voters and Immigrants with the BIGGEST LIE that he is FOR CIR or the Dream Act but then again his administration has deported the most out of all the previous administrations.

The Dream Act was short 5 votes and needed 5 Democrats to vote but he didn't take action because in the end it doesn't benefit him. Obama PR campaign will do their best to try to convince people he is fair and balance with immigration, BULLSHIT!

Their will be ads next year targeting Hispanics about immigration and how Republicans will do their best to deport ALL immigrants, but reality, his administration is doing all the deporting. Talk about the BEST CAMPAIGN slogan "YES WE CAN", yes they did and can still deport and fool people with false media news coverage and newspaper articles.

So, next time people vote, they should think twice.

Dreamer X 01-08-2011 12:27 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by FrankV (Post 205442)
Obama's PR campaign is doing its best to brainwash most Hispanic voters and Immigrants with the BIGGEST LIE that he is FOR CIR or the Dream Act but then again his administration has deported the most out of all the previous administrations.

The Dream Act was short 5 votes and needed 5 Democrats to vote but he didn't take action because in the end it doesn't benefit him. Obama PR campaign will do their best to try to convince people he is fair and balance with immigration, BULLSHIT!

Their will be ads next year targeting Hispanics about immigration and how Republicans will do their best to deport ALL immigrants, but reality, his administration is doing all the deporting. Talk about the BEST CAMPAIGN slogan "YES WE CAN", yes they did and can still deport and fool people with false media news coverage and newspaper articles.

So, next time people vote, they should think twice.

who would you want? sarah palin?

hardin 01-08-2011 12:34 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
Sarah? Lol... If she runs, it will be the funniest campaign. Years after, it will be made into an example of how it looks like when people take drugs. You see what happens when you take drugs son? Don't do that.
It isn't yet clear who will even put their bid for presidency up at the Republican party as they are currently gouging their eyes out over who will be their national comitee president.
Mit Romney maybe?

FrankV 01-08-2011 12:45 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
Someone better than him.
A moderate Republican because we need someone to bring Republicans to tag along with immigration. Obama can't even bring all the Democrats to vote for an immigration bill. Shit, Obama is deporting more immigrants than any other President.

OBAMA is acting like a RIGHTWING NUT Republican at this point, plus lies about it on the news. "I'm FOR the Dream Act... I'm FOR CIR" but does nothing about it.
TALK IS CHEAP, we need to get him out because he is useless. At least Republicans tell you your ass is going to get deported, while Obama lies about it or hides from it.

theboys2010 01-08-2011 01:00 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
Politicians truly are now running for there seat there whole term and will do or say anything to keep it. Its disappointing because I love political science especially during periods in prior history were politicians made tough decisions on extremely difficult issue about freedom. Similar to the founders there families were being killed by the British they all had different religious views and political ideologue from different parts of Europe. But under all that pressure and lets call it all being separated by party somehow the came up with the constitution that we have followed for 250 years. Then you look at Obama and hell any politician there is not a leader one something has to change grid lock has been going on for almost 13 years.

YesWeCan 01-08-2011 01:09 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
Honestly though at least Bush tried to pass CIR. We have to give the man credit for trying. Regardless of whether his efforts were genuine or not, he still put a lot more effort into immigration reform than Obama is.

theboys2010 01-08-2011 01:19 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by YesWeCan (Post 205458)
Honestly though at least Bush tried to pass CIR. We have to give the man credit for trying. Regardless of whether his efforts were genuine or not, he still put a lot more effort into immigration reform than Obama is.

McCain , Graham, Bush went balls out to get that CIR bill done that was turned down by Democrats. See what the outcome is republicans ran away from Bush, McCain was nearly thrown out of office by his voters now everyone hammers him because he had to change direction to keep his job, Graham almost got thrown out of office and has now turned completely around on the issue to almost being vigilant as he gets hammered on this site all the time. Then people on here act like politicians are going to throw themselves into this debate again and lose there job just like that. All politicians goal is to keep there office. Has to be taken courts the only way heavy immigration restrictions , secure border whatever that means its a moving target before the country would consider passing anything. Just think if the democrats would of not stopped that CIR bill at were we would be now.

Erik1421 01-08-2011 01:42 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
He is doing his best. He can't pass it by himself.

Mitt Romney is also against any kind of pathway for the undocumented too. Right now I'm just waiting for the state of the union address. Obama is still pretty popular, and saying he is against us is just cheap talk. We all know who the right wing nuts are, and they're the republicans.

DA User 01-08-2011 02:36 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
Obama still has 2 more years to pass.

theboys2010 01-08-2011 02:59 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by Erik1421 (Post 205463)
He is doing his best. He can't pass it by himself.

Mitt Romney is also against any kind of pathway for the undocumented too. Right now I'm just waiting for the state of the union address. Obama is still pretty popular, and saying he is against us is just cheap talk. We all know who the right wing nuts are, and they're the republicans.

He had a full voting majority in the house and senate and presidency told everyone he would take care of first year did not make a move.

theboys2010 01-08-2011 03:00 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 205470)
Obama still has 2 more years to pass.

Obama is a dead man walking politically he has not one ounce of power.

murs4president 01-08-2011 03:25 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by theboys2010 (Post 205479)
Obama is a dead man walking politically he has not one ounce of power.

well polls show that he has a 50% approval rating, and with an unemployment rate of 9.4, that's pretty damn high. so i do think he has a lot of political capital to use still.

the guy really did a lot his first 2 years in office, i heard somewhere that he already accomplished 80% of what he said he wanted to do when he was running for president...sad that clearly immigration is not one of his top priorities.

SonOf2Nations 01-08-2011 03:35 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
President Obama is the first African American president this country has had. He has done a great job so far, I say he should get another term as president.

theboys2010 01-08-2011 02:51 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by SonOf2Nations (Post 205484)
President Obama is the first African American president this country has had. He has done a great job so far, I say he should get another term as president.

We have added 8 trillion dollars to the deficit since Obama has been in office. All these cuts and immigration laws states are trying to get passes is to cut there budget cause they are broke. States depend on Federal money to pay a percentage of there bills from education to prison that is not there anymore. An unemployment rate of 9.4% is devastating having 40 million Americans drawing unemployment for up to three years is staggering. Seeing that number of 40 million does not include people that have given up looking for a job or have run out of benefits means that number is higher. Not counting illegals that have lost there job because they are not qualified to get benefits can you imagine what the true number it is to the proportion now that we can not fix this economy for years. Every citizen in this country now owes roughly 20,000 dollars to get the debt paid off. Sorry for running on but presidents are elected on one thing the economy and jobs. So he is gone what we need is some kind of middle of the road president that will come in and do nothing but work on the economy everything is better when the economy is good even immigration laws being passed.

theboys2010 01-08-2011 02:54 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by SonOf2Nations (Post 205484)
President Obama is the first African American president this country has had. He has done a great job so far, I say he should get another term as president.

It is historic that this country has a Afro American president now all the other countries in the world need to step and back there trash talking up. Funny in Europe they call us racist but you will never see a African as president of Britain,France, Sweden,Ireland, etc. Freaking hypocrites. But know one cares about what color he is what people want is jobs to support there families regardless of color if you cant provide that you will get thrown out on your butt.

gwone371 01-08-2011 05:16 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst than Bush in Immigration.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankV (Post 205442)
Obama's PR campaign is doing its best to brainwash most Hispanic voters and Immigrants with the BIGGEST LIE that he is FOR CIR or the Dream Act but then again his administration has deported the most out of all the previous administrations.

The Dream Act was short 5 votes and needed 5 Democrats to vote but he didn't take action because in the end it doesn't benefit him. Obama PR campaign will do their best to try to convince people he is fair and balance with immigration, BULLSHIT!

Their will be ads next year targeting Hispanics about immigration and how Republicans will do their best to deport ALL immigrants, but reality, his administration is doing all the deporting. Talk about the BEST CAMPAIGN slogan "YES WE CAN", yes they did and can still deport and fool people with false media news coverage and newspaper articles.

So, next time people vote, they should think twice.

You are just mad at Obama because immigration isn't his first priority

Also it wasn't Obama fault that the DA didn't pass, instead blame all the republicans and the 5 democrats:)

mikesandy 01-08-2011 08:28 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
I second that. You have to blame those Republicans and the 5 conservative democrats. We will have a serious chance of achieving something big with the DA in 2013 if the pendulum swings in our direction in the 2012 elections. The shooting of Gabrielle Giffords (an Arizona Democrat) should tell you something. Based on what I've read up on it, it was about her stance on immigration and health care reform. She was a democrat who resided in a very conservative voting district and competed against a tea-party endorsed candidate on election day.

DMV 01-09-2011 10:33 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
he took office when the economy is in shambles.he's tackling the economy, and that's his priority. stop thinking of yourselves for ones. don't you have family members who are legal and benefitting from his economic agenda? if i was an american citizen i would want my president to work the economy before going ahead with immigration reform.
we all know he's going to win 2012. do you seriously think that the majority of african american people not voting for obama?

hardin 01-09-2011 11:26 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by theboys2010 (Post 205516)
It is historic that this country has a Afro American president now all the other countries in the world need to step and back there trash talking up. Funny in Europe they call us racist but you will never see a African as president of Britain,France, Sweden,Ireland, etc. Freaking hypocrites.

Hold your horses partner. Ireland, Sweden and other european nations weren't formed from immigrants hailing from all corners of this planet. You can't really compare US and Europe in that retrospect. You can't blame them for hypocricy by that token. True hypocrites are those that are against immigration in a nation built on immigration, that try to trace bloodlines in order to decide who is illegal and who isn't and refuse to admit that by that token everyone beside native Americans is truly illegal.
You don't have to look over the ocean to find hypocrites, they are next to you.

MiGSTeR 01-09-2011 12:15 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
Well first off Obama wasn't elected into office just to serve the illegal community.

mac900 01-09-2011 03:03 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by murs4president (Post 205483)
well polls show that he has a 50% approval rating, and with an unemployment rate of 9.4, that's pretty damn high. so i do think he has a lot of political capital to use still.

the guy really did a lot his first 2 years in office, i heard somewhere that he already accomplished 80% of what he said he wanted to do when he was running for president...sad that clearly immigration is not one of his top priorities.


Let's see what happened since Obama took office. Almost doubled national debt, sent 35,000 more troops into Afghanistan shortly before winning the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, the economy is in shambles and he only made it worse, I love how one guy said its his top priority when EVERYTHING he does just makes it worse and his philosophy is spend spend spend, passed the health care reform which does nothing good for anyone but insurance companies. What's one good thing he has done that actually matters?
Not that he actually has any power, hes just a puppet following his masters like every other president

DA User 01-09-2011 05:18 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theboys2010 (Post 205479)
Obama is a dead man walking politically he has not one ounce of power.

He is the President of the USA. The most powerful man in the world.

DA User 01-09-2011 05:19 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murs4president (Post 205483)
well polls show that he has a 50% approval rating, and with an unemployment rate of 9.4, that's pretty damn high. so i do think he has a lot of political capital to use still.

the guy really did a lot his first 2 years in office, i heard somewhere that he already accomplished 80% of what he said he wanted to do when he was running for president...sad that clearly immigration is not one of his top priorities.

Its not Obama's fault that the Economy was in Recession when he took office. Things take time to recover.

HCR was something no one could ever pass.

DA User 01-09-2011 05:20 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by SonOf2Nations (Post 205484)
President Obama is the first African American president this country has had. He has done a great job so far, I say he should get another term as president.

No he is not. He is Bi-racial and I think he will be re-elected.

mac900 01-10-2011 08:22 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 205700)
Its not Obama's fault that the Economy was in Recession when he took office. Things take time to recover.

HCR was something no one could ever pass.


And his plan is to keep on spending until china owns the US, great plan:roll:

Ali 01-10-2011 02:09 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by mac900 (Post 205692)
Let's see what happened since Obama took office. Almost doubled national debt, sent 35,000 more troops into Afghanistan shortly before winning the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE, the economy is in shambles and he only made it worse, I love how one guy said its his top priority when EVERYTHING he does just makes it worse and his philosophy is spend spend spend, passed the health care reform which does nothing good for anyone but insurance companies. What's one good thing he has done that actually matters?
Not that he actually has any power, hes just a puppet following his masters like every other president

stop reading dumb shit..

mac900 01-10-2011 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ali (Post 205799)
stop reading dumb shit..

So truth is "dumb shit"?

It's all out there for anyone to read.

Your right, stay a sheeple, why should we actually do our own research, lets just have the media tell us the truth, its not like its biased and controlled.

theboys2010 01-10-2011 03:48 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by DMV (Post 205661)
he took office when the economy is in shambles.he's tackling the economy, and that's his priority. stop thinking of yourselves for ones. don't you have family members who are legal and benefitting from his economic agenda? if i was an american citizen i would want my president to work the economy before going ahead with immigration reform.
we all know he's going to win 2012. do you seriously think that the majority of african american people not voting for obama?


You mean he didn't tackle jobs and the economy first that is why he lost a record number of seats in the house and now the senate is about equal. Obama came in and spent nearly two years on that stupid health care bill that will be defunded and changed in the end. Obama is a liar and everyone of these voters that voted for him got suckered bait ,hook and sinker.

eddy 01-10-2011 09:17 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
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Originally Posted by theboys2010 (Post 205516)
It is historic that this country has a Afro American president now all the other countries in the world need to step and back there trash talking up. Funny in Europe they call us racist but you will never see a African as president of Britain,France, Sweden,Ireland, etc. Freaking hypocrites. But know one cares about what color he is what people want is jobs to support there families regardless of color if you cant provide that you will get thrown out on your butt.

They don't have presidents.

They don't have loads of blacks either.

getem 01-10-2011 09:46 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
u just mad u dont have ur green card lol just remember obama has the power to veto any immigration bill ,if he was against immigration all of us would of been in deep shit. just remember that he actually saving our asses and buying most of us time to legalize if immigration reform cant be passed .if mccain had won more than half of us would of already left or been deported, he would of been worst. so stop bitching just remember everything has to go to obama for signing into law .why do u think most states are taking up their own immigration bills especially anti immigration bills cuz obama will veto that shit if he sees it , just be happy your asses are still here in america and not being in deportation proceedings

Pursuitofhappiness 01-12-2011 04:06 AM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
I agree with this post, because all of us realize that Bullshit Obama just played politics. Even liberal media turned their backs on BO after seeing what had happened to DA. It was just plain political game.
The poll from CNN reveals that Sarah Palin trails BO, but other GOP candidates lead BO. So, it is eminent that GOP will take Presidential election if they send out candidate other than Palin. I know GOP is not that stupid to let this bullshit President to win his second term.
The problem is can this GOP candidate be some what moderate?
I have no hope for this one.

sony33 01-12-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pursuitofhappiness (Post 206100)
I agree with this post, because all of us realize that Bullshit Obama just played politics. Even liberal media turned their backs on BO after seeing what had happened to DA. It was just plain political game.
The poll from CNN reveals that Sarah Palin trails BO, but other GOP candidates lead BO. So, it is eminent that GOP will take Presidential election if they send out candidate other than Palin. I know GOP is not that stupid to let this bullshit President to win his second term.
The problem is can this GOP candidate be some what moderate?
I have no hope for this one.

Lol u really think Obama gonna have the Da now ? For crying out loud the man has to fix what bush took 8 years to do. I strongly belive by his 2nd term things like the DA will come around. I like. How you call him BO when he's the only US prez that ever showed any real intrest in something like this. Do you really think Reps gives a flying sh!t about you and any Undocumented ppl here? Look at the states which are trying to create new state laws to punish Undocumenteds. They are all Red states... Get ur head out of ur ass. The guy is trying to fix a broken country that some brain dead ape trashed. I'm surprised that this amount of protest was never demonstrated when Bush was in power. It goes to show how America still have not changed.

sony33 01-12-2011 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by getem (Post 205840)
u just mad u dont have ur green card lol just remember obama has the power to veto any immigration bill ,if he was against immigration all of us would of been in deep shit. just remember that he actually saving our asses and buying most of us time to legalize if immigration reform cant be passed .if mccain had won more than half of us would of already left or been deported, he would of been worst. so stop bitching just remember everything has to go to obama for signing into law .why do u think most states are taking up their own immigration bills especially anti immigration bills cuz obama will veto that shit if he sees it , just be happy your asses are still here in america and not being in deportation proceedings

They are so nieve to think Obama is not on our sides. They want the reps in. What world are they living in??? Masssss Deportation would be in play right now if reps had a say. Obama is slowing it down. The house has to vote on anything b; he signs and who controls the house? Hahaha the same ppl that guys like the person who created this thread thinks would do a better job

how do you guys think everything Obama said would happen in 4 years????? Sooo many anti immigrants reps blocking him and trying to kick all of your asses out!!

mikesandy 01-12-2011 02:42 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
Please listen to Sony33, he's right in this case. Obama can't work a miracle in only 1 to 2 years. It took 8 years for us to go down, it will take 8 years (or greater) for us to get back up again.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...?hpid=talkbox1

Look at this article, for instance. They are trying to rip away the "diversity" of this country. This goes beyond the DREAM Act and other ways of immigration reform.

Ali 01-12-2011 04:17 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
hey, the guy's party tried twice w/in his 1st two years of his first term....Bush waited 'till what? His 7th year in office?

Let's face it, Obama's biggest disadvantage is the color of his skin. I mean that, and trying to reason with people who hate the fact that he exists.

LuckyGirl 01-12-2011 08:38 PM

Re: Obama needs to leave!!! He's doing worst then Bush in Immigration.
 
Obama has made history and his impact will reach far into the future whether he is elected for a second term or not. Sarah Palin doesn't appeal to anyone but the Republicans. She's not qualified to lead and she lacks experience. The damages she'd do to the US foreign relations would be irreparable.

Here are a few things to consider.

First, how did Obama get elected to begin with? We still have a democracy in this country so if his ideas and his platform were that unpopular shouldn't he have lost in the first place? Was the biggest factor in his election the damage that had been done by his predecessors or was it the people's faith in his ability to effect change? Consider his resume before you answer that question.

Second, he is just ONE man. Exactly how much influence do you think he has? Let me say this differently. There is no way he could have gotten where he is by himself. The people who helped him acquire that position have agendas.

Do this. Stop looking at the person in that office and try just looking at the office itself. The government in this country wasn't set up to be a dictatorship. Regardless of how much someone may want to blame him for the current state of things everyone should stop making excuses and fess up to the fact that the real problem is greed, waste, lack of pride in the craftsmanship, and losing sight of the original ideas that this nation was founded on.

Someone needs to tell the executives of these big companies that doing something cheaper ISN''T the same thing as doing it better. This is simple math, when they lay somebody off that's one less person that's going to be buying, using, and endorsing their products! Plus, when banks deliberately make bad financial decisions it makes everybody's money worthless!

In addition, anyone who thinks they can do a better job is free to put their name on the ballot next time! :) Good luck!




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