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NYC_92 01-31-2012 04:49 AM

NY Dream Act - 2012 updates
 
Just some info for those who haven't been keeping up.
I've been tracking some of the changes to the bill through ChangeDetection.

All changes shown on this page: http://www.changedetection.com/log/g...tml#changelist

-There's been at least 14 new Sponsors since the last major update on the bill (since December 2011). A major shift in the numbers in the Senate.

As seen on the official bill page: http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/A6829-2011

There is now 2 amendment versions believed to be under review. In the added amendment version, state workers' permit and Drivers' license seems to have been removed. Limited Financial Aid seems to be the only benefit remaining. (Which is STILL good)

However 2012 session isn't over, and there is still plenty of time for change. But this is what the bill currently stands on.

tyler129 01-31-2012 09:12 AM

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wow that's some bulls**t. that's like nothing. why dont they get rid of financial aid as well?

carnivore 01-31-2012 11:06 AM

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Looks good, it will pass this year.

live4dream 01-31-2012 11:26 AM

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freakin hell was really looking forward for the work permit and the drivers license. DAMN IT.

drock226 01-31-2012 02:30 PM

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so not even an identification card huh?...ohhh wellz...

drock226 01-31-2012 09:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC_92 (Post 244786)
Just some info for those who haven't been keeping up.
I've been tracking some of the changes to the bill through ChangeDetection.

All changes shown on this page: http://www.changedetection.com/log/g...tml#changelist

-There's been at least 14 new Sponsors since the last major update on the bill (since December 2011). A major shift in the numbers in the Senate.

As seen on the official bill page: http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/A6829-2011

There is now 2 amendment versions believed to be under review. In the added amendment version, state workers' permit and Drivers' license seems to have been removed. Limited Financial Aid seems to be the only benefit remaining. (Which is STILL good)

However 2012 session isn't over, and there is still plenty of time for change. But this is what the bill currently stands on.


Sorry I am a little confused....so they completely removed the work permits and license?

DareToAct 01-31-2012 10:00 PM

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So something like what Texas offers?

carnivore 01-31-2012 10:40 PM

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What do you mean no drivers license or work permit? I see it on the bill, unless I'm missing something.

ABC 01-31-2012 11:45 PM

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There are newer versions of the bill that have everything but financial aid taken out. The original bill still seems to exist, but will probably be abandoned, if they even decide to push for this.

It's almost pathetic to even call this a 'DREAM Act' if it just offers some measly financial aid. It seems like they are not even going to fight for the driver license.

carnivore 02-01-2012 12:14 AM

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Fuck financial aid. I want to be able to get a job and make my own money. I don't want stupid people to complain that we're getting "handouts".

drock226 02-01-2012 12:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ABC (Post 244865)
There are newer versions of the bill that have everything but financial aid taken out. The original bill still seems to exist, but will probably be abandoned, if they even decide to push for this.

It's almost pathetic to even call this a 'DREAM Act' if it just offers some measly financial aid. It seems like they are not even going to fight for the driver license.

Yea, i'm thinking that....it has the best chance for passing if it only has the fin aid.....sucks though bc id rather have these people pass the work permits....i'll work my ass off for to pay for school....but politicians have their head in their asses and dont think straight.

live4dream 02-01-2012 01:13 AM

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This is so stupid financial aid costs the state money where as work permit means state incomes from documsnted tax payer. Honestly don't give a crap about .financial aid. I paid through my 4yrs All I need is a work permit.

tyler129 02-01-2012 01:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by live4dream (Post 244884)
This is so stupid financial aid costs the state money where as work permit means state incomes from documsnted tax payer. Honestly don't give a crap about .financial aid. I paid through my 4yrs All I need is a work permit.

for realz. wtf is wrong with these ppl

i would trade financial aid and driver license for a chance to work legally.

anitagreencard 02-01-2012 04:12 AM

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Financial aid means nothing to me. This act gives the dream act a bad name. Were not looking for financial assistance, we are looking to work towards our future. The world is so ass backwards it's not even funny.

drock226 02-01-2012 11:25 AM

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Is there any information out there as to when they might vote on this?

MDxOD 02-06-2012 03:02 AM

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I dont get why they wouldnt keep the drivers license stuff? Screw the financial aid.

What people really lack is identification and work opportunities. What they should do is allow students (even those who graduated from NY high schools, forget this 2 years before bill passed busiess) to have SOME type of work opportunity (even if its crappy) and identification. AT the very least, it should be people who have been here for 6+ years before passage.

That would also not include a lot of people but enough people and exclude those trying to move to NY just to get some benefits.


Also, i still see drivers license, fin aid, work etc... on all of the "edited" versions, can any of you who are saying they took everything off beside financial aid provide links? Thanks.

ABC 02-06-2012 09:43 PM

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MDxOD:

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S4179A-2011
http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S4179B-2011

On either of those two pages, show me where it says the words "driver's license" or "work permit."

It's only in this older version of the bill: http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S4179-2011

VicTheWick 02-11-2012 11:57 PM

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No driver's license? No work permit? That's sucks big time. This bill cannot be even called Dream act. Some financial aid, big deal. Dreamers worked their asses off to pay for tuition, many still doing it, and many will do it. Political game to call some bill NY Dream Act to get votes but give nothing.

ppl_man 02-12-2012 02:39 AM

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I lost hope in dream act.
I don't need fucking financial aid. no dreamer needs this bs if we can just work. I work at a research lab and I could get pay $3000 - $5000 per semester.

Why? These people never understand....

If driver license is such a big deal, look at FA. You are giving money away. Government is short of money. Why the fuck would they pay us? Last time I heard they are trying to setup a dream fund, which is completely bullshit too, so maybe 5 years after the act has passed, no one can fucking get the money either. That's what happening in Illonios.

tyler129 02-12-2012 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ppl_man (Post 246324)
Last time I heard they are trying to setup a dream fund, which is completely bullshit too, so maybe 5 years after the act has passed, no one can fucking get the money either. That's what happening in Illinois.

I was thinking the same thing.

Why did Illinois Dream Act even have to go through state government when the funding is PRIVATE. There is absolutely no tax money associated with this funding.. it's a scholarship made by donations and being given out to dreamers, something that would exist with or without governmental help.

A dreamer would probably be lucky if he can $500 out of it.. a week's paycheck..

And the politicians passed this meaningless bill and made themselves look like they have made some extravagant contribution for Dream Act but it was literally nothing.

dconaninfinite3 05-19-2013 12:29 AM

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http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/pas...w&r_by=6912093


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