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Hopeful8662 03-31-2012 09:00 PM

Obama promises reform if elected?
 
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...if-re-elected/

Opinions guys???

Washington – Immigration is one of the issues that will be put on the backburner as U.S. President Barack Obama focuses on the campaign trail in the hopes of winning his second term in office.

Obama has been blunt about election-year constraints. At a March 6 news conference, he acknowledged Hispanic supporters' anger over his failure to achieve immigration changes, including paths to legal status for some undocumented immigrants.

"When I came into office, I said, 'I am going to push to get this done,'" Obama said. "We didn't get it done. And the reason we haven't gotten it done is because what used to be a bipartisan agreement that we should fix this ended up becoming a partisan issue."

Obama said a presidential election can change the policy landscape.

"My hope is that, after this election, the Latino community will have sent a strong message that they want a bipartisan effort to pass comprehensive immigration reform," he told reporters.

Speaking to Russia’s president, Obama added that he will have "more flexibility" to deal with another touchy issue, missile defense, after the Nov. 6 election — if Obama wins, that is. The statement might have raised few eyebrows had Obama made it nonchalantly to a U.S. audience. Instead, it kicked up a fuss because Obama thought the microphones were off when he spoke with Dmitry Medvedev in South Korea, and because Obama seemed to take his re-election for granted.

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Presidents traditionally ease their foot from the gas pedal in their fourth year, when re-election politics overshadow almost everything.

President Bill Clinton, a Democrat, played small-ball in 1996, proposing school uniforms and midnight basketball programs after previously tackling much tougher issues such as welfare cuts and targeted tax increases (successfully) and a major health care overhaul (unsuccessfully).

President George W. Bush, a Republican, talked vaguely of overhauling Social Security during his 2004 re-election campaign, and then found the public wasn't ready for major changes after he won. Had he emphasized the proposed revisions during his campaign, Democrats' cries of "privatization" might have tipped the close election to Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry.

"No president of either party has any flexibility whatsoever during a re-election year," said Dan Schnur, a former GOP presidential aide who teaches political science at the University of Southern California.

"Your honeymoon is long gone," he said. "Everything you do will be judged strictly in a political context. And anything you do that's remotely unpopular could cost you the election."

Obama also failed to deliver on his 2008 campaign promise to undo the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy. The president postponed action in late 2010, when high unemployment made tax increases harder to defend.

Now the Bush-era tax cuts for everyone are set to expire shortly after the November election unless Congress acts. The agreement was part of a bipartisan compromise last fall in which Obama forced Republicans to agree to no more debt-ceiling showdowns until after the election.

Obama has had a shakier time slow-walking the proposed Keystone XL pipeline, which would carry oil from Canada to the Gulf Coast. Environmental groups strongly oppose the plan, but Obama's GOP opponents hammer him almost daily for not approving it.

The president has struggled to finesse the issue. He recently directed the government to fast-track an Oklahoma pipeline while saying congressional Republicans refused to allow sufficient time to review the larger Keystone project. Republicans scoff at the claim.

On another front, many activists believe Obama will endorse same-sex marriage if he wins a second term; the White House has not promised to do so.

Presidents typically push hard for achievements in their first three years, show more caution in their fourth year and then aim high again if they win re-election.

Clinton tackled health care, tax increases on the rich, the North American Free Trade Agreement and welfare revisions in his first term.

Bush sharply cut taxes, twice, as the budget surplus was changing to a deficit. Obama led a brutally partisan fight for the health care overhaul now before the Supreme Court.

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Will Obama boldly push for big changes in immigration, Social Security or other difficult issues if he wins a second term?

Recent history offers few hints. The last four presidents to win re-election saw their second terms bog down in scandals or controversies: Richard Nixon and Watergate; Ronald Reagan and Iran-Contra; Clinton and intern Monica Lewinsky; Bush and Hurricane Katrina and the increasingly unpopular Iraq war.

Nothing illustrates the dilemma facing a fourth-year president better than Bush's handling of Social Security.
After narrowly defeating Kerry in 2004, Bush announced: "I earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it."

In his autobiography, "Decision Points," Bush wrote, "For someone looking to take on big issues, it didn't' get much bigger than reforming Social Security." He said he "embarked on a series of trips to raise awareness about Social Security's problems and rally the American people to insist on change."

Such a call to arms, of course, often takes place in an election campaign, not after it. Bush's bid to allow partial privatization of Social Security for younger workers quickly collapsed in the face of strong Democratic opposition and tepid GOP support.

"I may have misread the electoral mandate by pushing for an issue on which there had been little bipartisan agreement in the first place," Bush wrote. "The failure of Social Security reform shows the limits of the president's power."

Obama may have "more flexibility" to deal with missile defense, immigration and other issues if he wins a second term. Whether he will have a mandate to do so is another question.

Based on reporting by The Associated Press.

Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...#ixzz1qkJsXxAU

CB124 03-31-2012 09:39 PM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
He promised that when he was elected the first time. He likes to have his cake and eat it too. Record deportations and no deal. He stops the Canada pipeline to please environmentalists, then approves the southern portion of it because of the fuel crisis.

fl_dreamer 03-31-2012 11:58 PM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
Here we go AGAIN....! http://images.search.yahoo.com/image...mb=vyYXjXufcTk

DA User 04-01-2012 01:11 AM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
I have faith in Obama.

ppl_man 04-01-2012 01:42 AM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
I have faith in Burger King.

tyler129 04-01-2012 03:06 AM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
this is april fools

kingsam73 04-01-2012 11:38 AM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
I have faith in God.

Alex1245 04-01-2012 12:47 PM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
What stopped him so far?

Hopeful8662 04-01-2012 01:07 PM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
Obama keeps saying there is a bipartisan issue but is there a way for him use his executive powers to do something with the issue of immigration?

dtrt09 04-01-2012 01:56 PM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
I call bullshit to all of the above. CIR will happen when legislators make it happen. The least he could have done, prior to re-election, is protect people from deportation.

But, he chose to deport more people than any other administration. Sure, Obama, only you could run for re-election seeking the immigrant rights community support and votes, with your appaling record on immigration, and with a straight face. I am sorry to say this, but they guy is totally deluded about himself.

dtrt09 04-01-2012 02:00 PM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
Oh, and to top it off, he had the audacity to tell people that he could work on CIR once the 'elections' -2010- were over. And here we are, two years on, we are told to wait until after the 2012 election.

Rep. Gutierrez disclosed a few months ago, that the Hispanic Congressional Caucus had agreed that CIR won't happen until the next congressional election cycle in 2014. He said it wouldn't be until 2015. Rahm Emmanuel told everyone back in 2009 that they wouldn't start working towards it until 2013. Maybe we shoud listen to anyone else other than the President, because as of now, all others are telling the truth.

DA User 04-01-2012 02:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex1245 (Post 249337)
What stopped him so far?

Other issues like the Economy.

DA User 04-01-2012 02:31 PM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 249345)
I call bullshit to all of the above. CIR will happen when legislators make it happen. The least he could have done, prior to re-election, is protect people from deportation.

But, he chose to deport more people than any other administration. Sure, Obama, only you could run for re-election seeking the immigrant rights community support and votes, with your appaling record on immigration, and with a straight face. I am sorry to say this, but they guy is totally deluded about himself.

Under his Administration, hardcore criminals were deported. There was a Morton memo last year that helped.

CB124 04-01-2012 05:09 PM

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His problem is he wants to please everybody. Honestly, I think he still has a grudge from the 2008 democratic primary.

kikibay92 04-01-2012 07:00 PM

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Promise from President Obama, very funny

kingsam73 04-02-2012 04:48 PM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
He better get some sh*t done if/when he's elected. I know he said this when getting elected for the 1st term, but now he's got no choice on his last term. But what matters more than him is that fact that the Dems should be able to take back the house and senate. Without that, Obama's powerless and can't be blamed.

yaystarcraft 04-03-2012 05:37 AM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
Obama doesn't want to work on immigration reform. When asked about immigration reform, he told reporters that he's been "working Congress hard." Go google that quote and you'll find the article.

As for Dream, he'll sign it but he won't push it. The man has NO PROBLEMS about supporting immigration reform but when it comes to pushing and shoving Congress to pass any kind of legalization bill, dream on.

Dream becomes Reality 04-03-2012 02:29 PM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
I have no interest in listening to what Obama has to say about both the Dream Act, and Immigration Reform in general, he's all talk but no action when it comes to these issues.

I really feel gullible for pushing the members of my family in 2008 that are US Citizens to vote for him (which they did), because I really believed that he understood the immigration process and the problems that people encounter, and would do something about it to help those involved. Was I wrong! Four years later, and things are still the same.

This year, I do not care who my friends and family vote for if they even bother voting at all, it really doesn't matter to me anymore. I'm done supporting any politician, we seriously need some sort of luck/Divine intervention (whatever you call it), to help us, that's what I think because people have played and failed us.

yaystarcraft 04-04-2012 11:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 249533)
I have no interest in listening to what Obama has to say about both the Dream Act, and Immigration Reform in general, he's all talk but no action when it comes to these issues.

I really feel gullible for pushing the members of my family in 2008 that are US Citizens to vote for him (which they did), because I really believed that he understood the immigration process and the problems that people encounter, and would do something about it to help those involved. Was I wrong! Four years later, and things are still the same.

This year, I do not care who my friends and family vote for if they even bother voting at all, it really doesn't matter to me anymore. I'm done supporting any politician, we seriously need some sort of luck/Divine intervention (whatever you call it), to help us, that's what I think because people have played and failed us.

I was like you too. I actually joined the College Democrats and took part in volunteering for the campaigns to get people to vote in the Dems and Obama because I really believed he'd do something about immigration. I was wrong and felt stupid. Now I've abandoned America and went back to my country. Things are working out alright now that I'm living abroad. More opportunities to live in other countries.

Dream becomes Reality 05-02-2012 07:44 PM

Re: Obama promises reform if elected?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yaystarcraft (Post 249675)
I was like you too. I actually joined the College Democrats and took part in volunteering for the campaigns to get people to vote in the Dems and Obama because I really believed he'd do something about immigration. I was wrong and felt stupid. Now I've abandoned America and went back to my country. Things are working out alright now that I'm living abroad. More opportunities to live in other countries.

I'm happy and encouraged to hear that there are opportunities after leaving the US. I certainly will be relocating to my home country no later than a couple of years from now when I can hopefully afford to do so. As long as I do not have any status, I will not lift a finger to get Obama any votes that's for sure, instead of focussing on his political career, I need to focus on my future.


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