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I see a lot of people worrying about returning to their home country. But just remember that you should focus a lot on WHERE in your country you would want to live. If you take HDI as what determines a first world country, Mexico City is first world. India have a couple of States, Kerala and Chandigarh, which have a high HDI as well. Just something you guys should think about.

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Screw that, I am not going to south america, I vaguely recall ever even being there. I am going back to Europe, I think I still have all my residency papers in order. If not.. third world country it is then :(

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Interesting thing to consider indeed. Personally, I wouldn't mind living in the city I'm from, Nairobi, one of the developing cities in Africa. However, I don't think I could fully have everything I want over there that I see in America. The exchange rate is the biggest killer. The story completely changes once you've made enough money and can afford to invest over there. Point is I think I would need a back up before being able to settle in Nairobi. I would be more hopeful in living in cities in South Africa, much more advanced.

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Nairobi sounds like the better option to me if the choices are either Kenya or South Africa, simply because living in South Africa would be like living in the US to some extent due to the history of Apartheid there. Maybe it's just me, but after dealing with all the BS over here as a minority, I'd definitely NOT want to live in another county that has a similar history of racism and discrimination.

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Nairobi is killer dude, the "green city in the sun" hahahha. I hear good things about it, besides the kibera slums it seems like an epic place. And South Africa is cool too, but it just depends where you live in the country, if you can make it in there and get a ton of money after months of work, I'd head for a gated community, because crime there seems outrageous. and out of control.

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Oh nice, where in europe you wanna head out too?

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Being that I live 2 hours outside of Mexico City, I can say parts of Mexico city do look first world. Then, there is a massive ring of slums also attached to it. You can go from a part with beautiful buildings and houses to a part looking like a refuge camp in a matter of 10 minutes.

Here in Puebla, we have about the same murder rate as Wisconsin.

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I must hand it to you. Your knowledge is very deep. Glad to see you know about the Kibera slums. Yes you are absolutely right. Actually epic is an understatement. Super epic is the correct word to describe Nairobi. The life is just incredibly easy for office type workers. Offices close at 5 pm. Saturdays are half day and don't dare talk about work on Sundays. Bright blue skies, breezy, 75-85 degree weather 365 days a year. We never owned a fan in our home let alone AC. Yes, the only issues are the security or lack off as you mentioned and the economy. You can deal with the security if you live accordingly and I am getting news from friends that the economy is improving day by day. Nairobi reminds me of cities like Chicago to be honest...hope it reaches to that level one day!

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Yes, most of Africa is just a beautiful continent and it's been growing so nicely over the past decade, and I hear the same, I hear Nairobi has just been the past decade just growing profusely, and now that Kenya even has oil reserves, I'm sure some of that oil wealth is going to trickle into Nairobi, plus a bunch of American corporations have African HQs there, so the transition could be even easier then expected if you do go back. I guess the only thing that one needs to worry about in Keyna is the whole political drama right? With Kibaki and Odinga I believe? It sucks that ethnic factionalism still plays a role in so many countries around the world.

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i'm from a city. I have no home country to go back to.

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I could see myself moving back to Kingston because I could go to school at UWI and eventually attend medical school there although the cost of an education in Jamaica these days rivals the costs in the U.S.

My biggest issues are:
-Securing employment. I'd have to find something that pays a livable wage and doesn't require me to have a degree right now.
- Securing housing from here in the U.S. I have only one person that could help me, a USC cousin who moved back to Jamaica last year. But she lives with her mother in a one bedroom right now and I can't really ask her to help me at the moment. But, if I move there with a significant amount in my savings, she can split the expenses with my sister and I.
- I keep hearing horror stories about folks randomly getting murdered. But I doubt that it is that bad. I've found non-Jamaicans who have moved there and are establishing tourism businesses or becoming teachers.

All that aside, I've decided to wait until after the November elections to make a decision. If Congress does not pass something and we do not get an EO, then I'll be putting my plans in place to go back. I refuse to be here and waiting for the rest of my life. Eventually, I'll be too old for even DREAM Act. But, my family's current legal problems may make that decision for me.

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My home country has the same weather, the coldest days require a light sweater not even a jacket, and it is NEVER humid, just perfect weather. The way of life is also a lot more relaxed and to be honest, I think a developing country has more options for Dreamers since the country is still growing, rather than one that is so "advanced" that it appears a bit stagnant in terms of growth....

I've heard those horror stories too of people returning from Europe and the US being targets for robbers. However, if we've been able to survive and adapt to conditions in this country with little to no documentation, I'm sure that we'd have no problems blending in with the population and learning how to survive in our home countries as well.

I agree with you on having a time frame in mind to leave, as I definitely do not want to waste my 20s in this country any longer, and I sure as heck don't want to turn 30 here as an Undoumented person, so I'll leave a few years before my 30th birthday if things remain the same. I'm hoping for the best because I'd love to stay here, but I refuse to waste my life here any longer. If nothing passes that I can benefit from by next year, then I'll be leaving the US by the end of next year, if not earlier.

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Mexico City is too chaotic for my taste. Monterrey used to be pretty cool before the zetas came in though..

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You first, the place I hail from is arguably the most retarded country in EU, full of religious retards. If I'll have to go, I'm going to England.

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I'm from Brazil so it's not the end of the world for me if I have to go back. In fact, I'm dying to go back to visit, but I rather have a career in the US.

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I thought that one didn't have to pay for tertiary education at UWI or is this specific to the Jamaican campus? Have you ever thought about scholarship options and/or other regions besides Jamaica within Caricom?

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This is why you are one of my favorite people here. :wink: I have no idea how any of it really works. I plan on emailing a counselor at UWI to see what I would be eligible for.

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I'm currently in Tijuana in Mexico. I plan on moving to Mexico City in a year.

But the USA is filled with religious retards to. People actually believe that the same god that has killed innocent children, ordered women to be raped, and pretty much is an asshole is a good guy and loves them. Gotta love that Christians don't read the Bible eh?

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Well, here is the big issue. where ever you move, it will be hard to re-establish your life. Let's not forget that our current world economy is a piece of sh***.

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If things don't work out here in the US and A by the end of 2013 , I'm heading to San Luis Potosi . The city is an important business center because it is in between Monterey and Guadalajara .

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I've been to San Luis, I prefer Queretaro and Puebla. The infrastructure was much better in Queretaro, plus both have quick access to Mexico City. I thought San Luis looked extremely crowded, but then so does most of Mexico City.

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I'm from Lagos, Nigeria. I'm going to give myself some years here: earn a Bachelor in something and try for either med school or Masters.

The country is third world and I'm not moving back without some assurance of employment. Security, electricity, disregard for law and order...I might as well just stay here or try for Ghana/Canada/elsewhere.

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1. I’d likely get killed in Kingston. Or locked in a luny bin. One can only lie so long about certain things.
2. Crime rates.
3. All ‘dem drug fights.

@freshh. - If you end up going back, let me know how it works outs.

I've a similar plan as Skye. Try for somewhere else, rather than go back.

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I spent the week looking into it and my mother is adamantly against my sister and I going back. She knows that we'd be targets because we don't sound Jamaican. Not to mention we're girls. The police claim that crime is down, but that's not what I'm hearing from my relatives.

So, I'm going to try Canada and Australia from here, too before deciding to go to Jamaica. The only problem is the amount of money I have to prove I have to go to both countries.

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I just need to hang on a little longer, just this year so I can get my MS degree, and then I guess I wouldn't mind that much moving.

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Oh com on mon, a jamaican accent is easy if you practice it, I can do it and I'm not even jamaican. Just listen to people do it and mimic the words.

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:lol: I wish it were that easy. I've spent the last 18 years living in Georgia. So, you can imagine how I sound.

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It isn't only about the accent. Don’t know Creole? Can’t pass as Jamaican.

Part of the problem with Jamaica’s crime rate is a lot of it is committed by law enforcement. Also many hate crimes there are not considered a crime.

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I'd go back to Mexico until I could legally immigrate to an English speaking country. I'm not dumb, but I don't want to struggle with a language barrier, and Mexico is corrupt. Do you know what the HDI is in Guadalajara? My family is from there.

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I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot the deputy... Sorry all this talk about Jamaican crime brought that Marley song to mind.

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Exactly. You have to be worried about people that will actually try to harm you and the police.

I'm going to take the chance and apply to go to Canada if we haven't seen some sort of reform in the next 2 years. Hopefully, I can manage to save enough, pay off school, etc. It seems rather daunting, but I've got to try.

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^If you've been here as long as you say then you probably remember that show "Oliver at Large".

On topic,I've never heard of an 'accent' being an issue in one's home country,but I agree concerning the issue of females going back specifically to Jamaica as there does seem to be widespread issues I had never knew or heard about until talking with friends who recently visited.

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All I can tell you is that Guadalajara is just behind Mexico City and Monterrey. Best place for tech jobs and tech startups in mexico.

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The funny thing is these people think they know everything about Mexico by talking to their parents, and most of their parents haven't been in the country for over a decade. Yet we are living here now.

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Tell me about it, a lot of ignorant people out there. Probably don't even know that companies like GE, Bombardier, and Schniedier Electric just to name a few, have a huge manufacturing and engineering presence down there...

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It'd actually be a decent time to go to Europe at the tail end of this debt crisis, and invest on the bottom. Thinking about going back to Portugal -- or another EU country that isn't struggling.

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One thing that does suck thought...I've been hearing that Taco Bell made this new Dorito Taco and it sold 2 million in the first month, it has been on the news here. I can't get it because we don't have a Taco Bell here, just the real stuff. Has anyone tried it?

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Man i've got one near here somewhere, I think. I'll give that a try next time i visit.