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luisDREAMer 08-19-2012 11:35 PM

You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutely NO
 
proof that they were here on june 15? or will they give them a break knowing they meet all other guidelines? I mean being here on the 15 is not as a high priority of, say, graduationg highschool, or having a clean criminal record, right?

TexasDreamy 08-19-2012 11:42 PM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Holy shit dude, did you not read the official document guidelines or any thread on here in the last 2 months?

luisDREAMer 08-19-2012 11:48 PM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
yeah, i have, i got everything but proof of presence here on the 15th, the only dated document i got is one i got when i went to go get my dogs vaccine, the guy dated it,, but thats it

MaskedLuchador 08-19-2012 11:52 PM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Does it have your name? Have any bills in your name? Anything at all close to June or May?

luisDREAMer 08-19-2012 11:59 PM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
nah man, NOTHING, as soon as i graduated highschool in 2011 i just stayed home, i never worked, nothing in my name..since i dont go money

MaskedLuchador 08-20-2012 12:02 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
I would really suggest that, if you don't think you have enough proof, you consult one of those lawyers who are helping dreamers for free. I don't have any links but I know I saw a few numbers. Google it.

NotAPro 08-20-2012 12:04 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
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Originally Posted by luisDREAMer (Post 281722)
nah man, NOTHING, as soon as i graduated highschool in 2011 i just stayed home, i never worked, nothing in my name..since i dont go money

Going to have to track down what you did around that time and see if you might be able to get affidavits to back up continuous residence until that date. The affidavits can't be use for June 15, 2012 presence, but at least you have something.

luisDREAMer 08-20-2012 12:09 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
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Originally Posted by NotAPro (Post 281733)
Going to have to track down what you did around that time and see if you might be able to get affidavits to back up continuous residence until that date. The affidavits can't be use for June 15, 2012 presence, but at least you have something.

I had my Aunt uncle and cousins over on the 15th, i remember because daca announcement was on the news nonstop

NotAPro 08-20-2012 12:14 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luisDREAMer (Post 281722)
nah man, NOTHING, as soon as i graduated highschool in 2011 i just stayed home, i never worked, nothing in my name..since i dont go money

Quote:

Originally Posted by luisDREAMer (Post 281738)
I had my Aunt uncle and cousins over on the 15th, i remember because daca announcement was on the news nonstop

Remember that USCIS will accept circumstantial evidence to fulfill this requirements, it can be 6/15 or 6/16 or 6/20, on or about, the date before and after to demonstrate that you were in the US at or around that date.
Do more research and see if you can find a letter/postmark with your name in or around that date.

luisDREAMer 08-20-2012 12:18 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
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Originally Posted by NotAPro (Post 281739)
Remember that USCIS will accept circumstantial evidence to fulfill this requirements, it can be 6/15 or 6/16 or 6/20, on or about, the date before and after to demonstrate that you were in the US at or around that date.
Do more research and see if you can find a letter/postmark with your name in or around that date.

yeah man, i checked EVERYTHING, i mean EVERYTHING, and i cant find nothing, since the begining of 2012 money has been tight and we never went out..damn man..I think im not gona even send it in anymore..

MaskedLuchador 08-20-2012 12:23 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Do you go to church? Maybe they could write a letter saying you go weekly or something. I know I heard a dreamer talking about doing that.

luisDREAMer 08-20-2012 12:25 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
nah man, ive read all the possible evidence you can send in and i Dont got nothing, like i said i got a book that has my dogs vaccing and its dated june 1 2012 but thats it

MaskedLuchador 08-20-2012 12:27 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Well, either just send in what you have or contact a pro bono lawyer. Don't give up man.

luisDREAMer 08-20-2012 12:29 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
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Originally Posted by MaskedLuchador (Post 281744)
Well, either just send in what you have or contact a pro bono lawyer. Don't give up man.

im still struggling to get the 465 to mail it in, I dont even know what im going to do now..

JohannBernoulli1667 08-20-2012 12:36 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
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Originally Posted by luisDREAMer (Post 281746)
im still struggling to get the 465 to mail it in, I dont even know what im going to do now..

Open a bank account now. Use the vaccination ticket also. Write something up stating what happened. I think with a little help from someone experienced you should be fine. Get free or pro bono help.

luisDREAMer 08-20-2012 12:43 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 281747)
Open a bank account now. Use the vaccination ticket also. Write something up stating what happened. I think with a little help from someone experienced you should be fine. Get free or pro bono help.

should i still make 2 affidavits just to make sure?

JohannBernoulli1667 08-20-2012 01:05 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Do as much as possible. In this case since you lack evidence it could not hurt.

pakapoa 08-20-2012 01:40 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
hi am in the same spot as you but i only happen to have a may 18 receipt from amazon with my name and matching address. they look at each case differently.

i don't have proof but for the june 15 thing, they will pay most attention to central and south american applicants, they are the ones who can easily go in and out of the country. est european, africans and asians they won't worry as much even if the proof is a month before june 15. so me am from kenya, and i cant come here any other way but by water or air and it's too difficult to be smuggled here so i stopped worrying for my self. as for central and south americans i really sympathase with u, this june 15 proof might hurt your chance greatly.

LifeD 08-20-2012 05:04 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
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Originally Posted by TexasDreamy (Post 281704)
Holy shit dude, did you not read the official document guidelines or any thread on here in the last 2 months?

I'm sick of smart comments like these that offer no explanation.. Explain your self!!!! Don't just leave a smirky comment assuming we know what your talking about..

What the hell do you mean?

Marco956 08-20-2012 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by LifeD (Post 281859)
I'm sick of smart comments like these that offer no explanation.. Explain your self!!!! Don't just leave a smirky comment assuming we know what your talking about..

What the hell do you mean?

I couldn't agree more!

Some people aren't aware that some of us don't have the time and resources to be reading this forum 24/7

SK18 08-20-2012 05:23 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pakapoa (Post 281765)
hi am in the same spot as you but i only happen to have a may 18 receipt from amazon with my name and matching address. they look at each case differently.

i don't have proof but for the june 15 thing, they will pay most attention to central and south american applicants, they are the ones who can easily go in and out of the country. est european, africans and asians they won't worry as much even if the proof is a month before june 15. so me am from kenya, and i cant come here any other way but by water or air and it's too difficult to be smuggled here so i stopped worrying for my self. as for central and south americans i really sympathase with u, this june 15 proof might hurt your chance greatly.

I hope they aren't anal about the june 15th thing. Also the overstays from asian countries; it makes no sense for them to jump the border and come back. Like wth.

derpatron 08-20-2012 05:33 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
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Originally Posted by SK18 (Post 281862)
I hope they aren't anal about the june 15th thing. Also the overstays from asian countries; it makes no sense for them to jump the border and come back. Like wth.

Saw your response on the other thread... you really like using that word xD

pakapoa 08-20-2012 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by derpatron (Post 281864)
Saw your response on the other thread... you really like using that word xD

LOL i just had to say this, hehehe

Arizona is so Anal

LifeD 08-20-2012 06:19 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pakapoa (Post 281765)
hi am in the same spot as you but i only happen to have a may 18 receipt from amazon with my name and matching address. they look at each case differently.

i don't have proof but for the june 15 thing, they will pay most attention to central and south american applicants, they are the ones who can easily go in and out of the country. est european, africans and asians they won't worry as much even if the proof is a month before june 15. so me am from kenya, and i cant come here any other way but by water or air and it's too difficult to be smuggled here so i stopped worrying for my self. as for central and south americans i really sympathase with u, this june 15 proof might hurt your chance greatly.

2face is also from Kenya :D

LifeD 08-20-2012 06:21 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco956 (Post 281860)
I couldn't agree more!

Some people aren't aware that some of us don't have the time and resources to be reading this forum 24/7

Yea so true:)

in_the_shadow 08-20-2012 09:19 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luisDREAMer (Post 281740)
yeah man, i checked EVERYTHING, i mean EVERYTHING, and i cant find nothing, since the begining of 2012 money has been tight and we never went out..damn man..I think im not gona even send it in anymore..

You cannot give up and not even try just because you can't find any evidence. That's silly.

Check your email or facebook, see if you can find anything there. Do you have a cell phone? If you do you can request cell phone records. Maybe you can find some pictures of you taken around June 15 or some correspondence?

I'm sure there is a way to prove your presence on June 15th. If you're unsure how to do it contact a lawyer and see what he says.
You cannot not take advantage of this opportunity because you can't prove your presence or can't come up with the fee. If you feel that you qualify and have a clean record do whatever it takes to prepare your application.

You gotta take care of business.

Suffer the pain of discipline or suffer the pain of regret!

I have that quote hanging on the wall in my room and always look at it whenever I don't want to do something.

luisDREAMer 08-20-2012 11:13 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SK18 (Post 281862)
I hope they aren't anal about the june 15th thing. Also the overstays from asian countries; it makes no sense for them to jump the border and come back. Like wth.

it makes no sense going to mexico and coming back niether haha

luisDREAMer 08-20-2012 11:18 AM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by in_the_shadow (Post 281914)
You cannot give up and not even try just because you can't find any evidence. That's silly.

Check your email or facebook, see if you can find anything there. Do you have a cell phone? If you do you can request cell phone records. Maybe you can find some pictures of you taken around June 15 or some correspondence?

I'm sure there is a way to prove your presence on June 15th. If you're unsure how to do it contact a lawyer and see what he says.
You cannot not take advantage of this opportunity because you can't prove your presence or can't come up with the fee. If you feel that you qualify and have a clean record do whatever it takes to prepare your application.

You gotta take care of business.

Suffer the pain of discipline or suffer the pain of regret!

I have that quote hanging on the wall in my room and always look at it whenever I don't want to do something.


i cant tell you enough how much times i rummaged through EVERYTHING, fuck it, im still going to send it in, next week probably, if they dont accept it, oh well

elmo14 08-20-2012 12:05 PM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pakapoa (Post 281765)
hi am in the same spot as you but i only happen to have a may 18 receipt from amazon with my name and matching address. they look at each case differently.

i don't have proof but for the june 15 thing, they will pay most attention to central and south american applicants, they are the ones who can easily go in and out of the country. est european, africans and asians they won't worry as much even if the proof is a month before june 15. so me am from kenya, and i cant come here any other way but by water or air and it's too difficult to be smuggled here so i stopped worrying for my self. as for central and south americans i really sympathase with u, this june 15 proof might hurt your chance greatly.

wakenya unite!!
i agree that if you have to take a plane to get here the evidence they require is a lot less. if you were to leave the country at any point they would have to take your i-94, stamp your passport, and whatever else they do when you leave the country. so the continuous presence is mostly for those that can come and go easily...

pakapoa 08-20-2012 12:08 PM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
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Originally Posted by elmo14 (Post 282005)
wakenya unite!!
i agree that if you have to take a plane to get here the evidence they require is a lot less. if you were to leave the country at any point they would have to take your i-94, stamp your passport, and whatever else they do when you leave the country. so the continuous presence is mostly for those that can come and go easily...

LOL, good one, whats up mkenya? you speak sheng

bigdreams92 08-20-2012 01:01 PM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
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Originally Posted by pakapoa (Post 282007)
LOL, good one, whats up mkenya? you speak sheng

Awwww. How bout Africans unite? Lol I'm not Kenyan.

elmo14 08-20-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pakapoa (Post 282007)
LOL, good one, whats up mkenya? you speak sheng

not too well. I've been here ten years too long, so my sheng is about a decade old. I try and fail miserably :(

fd314 08-20-2012 05:36 PM

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Well from what I was reading, if you missed something in the application (like a line in the forms) or you did not provide enough evidence, they will not put you on a non-qualify list. They'll just send it back to you and tell you that you missed that or this.
You'll have another chance to fix it and try again. Only if it's a criminal offense reason will they take other measurments

(I asked this question to a lawyer who was helping me and other dreamers for three straight hours btw)

kabs 08-20-2012 07:06 PM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
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Originally Posted by fd314 (Post 282354)
Well from what I was reading, if you missed something in the application (like a line in the forms) or you did not provide enough evidence, they will not put you on a non-qualify list. They'll just send it back to you and tell you that you missed that or this.
You'll have another chance to fix it and try again. Only if it's a criminal offense reason will they take other measurments

(I asked this question to a lawyer who was helping me and other dreamers for three straight hours btw)

My lawyer said the same. He explained what would happen in the worst case scenario and it would be an RFE at first or an interview if need be.

K-Man 08-20-2012 07:17 PM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
It would make no sense to rule you out if the ENTIRE application is persuasive in continual residence. My younger brother had the same issue since he closed the bank account last year like a fool, however he had for 2012:

- medical bill from January
- purchase receipt with his name / address April
- purchase receipt w/ name/address in August
- Lease covering all of 2012

Technically there's nothing on June 15th for him, but I'm pretty sure that'll be ok. There will be leniency WITHIN REASON, since they're already fully aware most of us are playing with fire with no ss# or DL, you can't expect all applicants to have consistent financial records or traces of documents.

kabs 08-20-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by K-Man (Post 282469)
It would make no sense to rule you out if the ENTIRE application is persuasive in continual residence. My younger brother had the same issue since he closed the bank account last year like a fool, however he had for 2012:

- medical bill from January
- purchase receipt with his name / address April
- purchase receipt w/ name/address in August
- Lease covering all of 2012

Technically there's nothing on June 15th for him, but I'm pretty sure that'll be ok. There will be leniency WITHIN REASON, since they're already fully aware most of us are playing with fire with no ss# or DL, you can't expect all applicants to have consistent financial records or traces of documents.

I know, right? We're undocumented... Basically without documents, lol. We're technically supposed to be living off the grid. We typically don't have bank accounts, credit cards, lol. That's why I think the panic is too strong for certain things.

elmo14 08-20-2012 11:23 PM

Re: You guys think the USCIS will automatically deny applications that have absolutel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdreams92 (Post 282054)
Awwww. How bout Africans unite? Lol I'm not Kenyan.

fair enough! what part of africa do you hail from?

bigdreams92 08-21-2012 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by elmo14 (Post 282711)
fair enough! what part of africa do you hail from?

Lol I'm Nigerian :)

amik2k 08-26-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bigdreams92 (Post 282810)
Lol I'm Nigerian :)

Naija!!

bigdreams92 08-26-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by amik2k (Post 287831)
Naija!!

You too???


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