If You know anything about College for illegals, plz help me
 

im a high school student in Kentucky. im a senior this year, and im having a major problem with the applications for colleges. i know that states like california, new york, illinois, utah, washington and texas accept illegal immigrants or undocumented students. but what im dont know is that even illegal from out of the state can be accepted. at this moment i could care less about if im going to get financial support, i just need to get accepted.

if any of you guys who are illegals and lived in out of those states and got accepted to the colleges, give an advise. thank you.

if you dont have a high school diploma of one of those states that do give instate tuition you wont get instate tuition

here is a little something that will help you

http://dreamact.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=389

o yea...i know that they wont give me instate tuition but do you know any colleges that accept illegal immigrants? cuz my sister applied to some community college expecting that they will accpet but they asked her to bring her visa documents. so she sent them her passport and visa but they said they cant accept her because of her status.

i just need to know what colleges accept illegal immigrants.

Are you willing to pay HUGE out of state tuition? Look somewhere else... i.e. private scholarships. Private colleges are willing to work with you, especially if you are a very talented student.

Hey guys..i just received a mail from Associate Director of Admission of University of Kentucky. and here is what she said...


Dear Charles,



I am pleased to hear about your interest in the University of Kentucky. You may apply for undergraduate admission as an illegal immigrant. This status will not in any way hurt your chances of being accepted to the University as an undergraduate student. You should expect to hear from others here at UK in regards to your financial aid or scholarship possibilities. Please feel free to contact me if you have any additional undergraduate admission questions at any time.



Sincerely,



Michelle Garth

Associate Director of Admission

I know there are so many students who just cant go to college or not knowing that they could go to college because they assume that illegals cant go to college. I just want to say "Dont BE Afraid to ASk" email or call the directors of schools that you want to go to. Because my sister made that same mistake and i dont want anyone to make that stupid mistake.

Try Beloit College in Illinois. I got a deal where I would pay 1/2 because my grades were above everyone else's. But I chose to attend somwhere else.

Abaddon, what school are you attending now? and are you illegal immigrant??

I live in Chicago, I am attending Wrige College (city college) the tuition is cheap and dont their requirements bad. I paid $1,500.00 including text books for one semester.

I plant to transfer to UIC, after i get my associates from Wright. Chicago has a very good public transportion that consists both of trains and buses, and if you need to go to the suburbs there is Metra. I think you should come to Chicago, cheapen than New York.

Welcome JCarrera.

I am a fellow Chicagoan myself. We will be starting a campaign soon--have you gotten in contact with Richard Durbin regarding the DREAM Act? Just wondering.

I've heard about undocumented students able to apply for a college loan in Texas, so if anyone knows anything abou this, I really need your feedback. Thanks.

how about florida? anyone have an idea about how to get into college over here?

I know all the CUNY schools in New York accept illegals instate or out.Like others said you just wont pay instate tuition.But CUNY schools are not that expensive compare to private colleges.For instate tution it cost about 4,000 a year and probably around 8,000 for out of state,but probably less than that.Not all Cuny schools have dorms so make sure the one you choose does or you can always rent out a room in someones apartment.

I sent this to you through PM but just in case....
 

I'm also from Florida....two quick questions though: Do you have any type of legal paperwork from INS? Like an I-485, even if it was denied? If so, then any school will accept you in-state. If not, try to talk to the highest administrator in the admissions office; if you have FINANCIAL PROOF of your Florida residency (i.e., IRS tax forms even if on a TIN) they'll decide whether to give you in-state or out-of-state tuition. It also helps if you have really good grades.


Also, have you applied for Bright Futures? I know you may think you cannot use it because that's what I thought too. HOWEVER, Bright Futures doesn't have a residency or citizenship requirement. Apply even though you don't have residency right now; they don't even ask for a social(Well, they do but they won't penalize you for not having one, you will still be considered for the scholarship as long as you can receive in-state tuition and, if you find someone that is sympathetic in the college offices like my brother found, you will be able to receive that assistance). And anyway, Bright Futures gives you two years to defer your aid. Meaning, if DREAM becomes a reality next year, you will be eligible for in-state tuition, therefore eligible for BF disbursement. You'll be sorry if you don't apply.

Hope this helps!!!! :D

CUNY accepts illegals as instate. Out-of-state/International students pay according to the amount of credits which is $360/cr ever since the tuition hike 3 years back. There is no max tuition cap. Which means if you take 18cr, you would be paying $12,960 a year of bare-bone tuition. That was one of the factors why I dumped my F1 status prior to my senior year.

Re: I sent this to you through PM but just in case....
 

ok... so... first of all, i don't have an I-485 or anything like that.. i came on tourist visa and it expired
another question, If i have a guardian who can claim me in the tax returns, does that constitute financial proof of florida residency? what if i'm not declared in tax returns(because i'm not right now lol ), but it can be shown that the legal guardian pays taxes (legally), does that work?

and last question, what university do you/your brother attend that allows you to pay in state/get bright futures? that is, if you don't mind saying.

thanks a lot

Well, I know that I was asked to supply tax forms (I was listed as a dependent) and for a bank letter stating that my dad had had an account with Bank of America for more than 12 months at his current address in FL. I don't know if they'll let you show that for in-state tuition though because on top of all that they asked for ENDLESS copies of my I-485 and my dad's work permit (long story as to why we're all still undocumented....we've been here 17 years and my dad STILL has just a work permit instead of PR...)....however, before we had the I-485, all they asked for with my brothers was their social security number (even if its ineligible for working purposes, like ours is) and tax forms and all that other good stuff.

Do you have a SS number (even if not for work purposes)? That's usually a good starting point to establish residency in FL. We also overstayed our tourist visa; my dad tried to fake his way through the '86 amnesty with the LULAC extension in the '90s; seeing as how he still only has a work permit you can see it didn't really go too well.

Other than that, all I can tell you is APPLY FOR BRIGHT FUTURES. I can't stress this enough. I've been repeating the same thing to this girl at COSA. If you are eligible (grades-wise) I really want you to take part in this. Just register as a non-citizen (there are three categories: citizen, non-citizen, and eligible non-citizen....just register as non-citzen. The app will still go through).

Take care bro! May 2007 be our year!!

Oh and by the way, my brothers attended Broward Community College and Florida International University. I should add however that we did obtain a work permit for about a year in 2003-2004 so that was the reason my middle brother obtained in-state tuition (he had been having some issues with in-state tuition because he didn't have a social security number, which I stated before is pretty big in getting in-state tuition) at FIU. However, my oldest brother received in-state throughout with just his social security number and my dad's taxes.


I really hope this helps!! =)

well..i tried applying for bright futures but you have to apply for FASFA.. which asks for social and all that kind of crap (i don't have social)...
did your brother get bright futures before 2002? that might be able to explain why he was able to get it

thanks for all the info btw...really appreciate it

You don't have to apply for Bright Futures through FAFSA....I didn't and I still received aid...Here's what I did:

Go to www.floridastudentfinancialaid.org
Under "New Visitors" go to initial student
Click on proceed to application
And then go on from there.


You don't NECESSARILY need a SS....its just easier for them to ID you. I just applied for it last year, so I doubt the rules changed. I'm actually on the site right now as we speak and everything is the same. Hopefully you can get the aid as well....its really helpful!!

Good luck!! And no problem, we're in this together, the least I can do is spread the info.

this bright future can i apply if i am i IL??
and i am a senior is this a problem?

What's IL?

illinois

oh I thought it was some abbreviation for a legal status in immigration or something. No, sadly, Bright Futures is one of those state-funded merit scholarships given to students who graduated from a FL high school. It's actually funded by the state lottery so that's one of the reasons why there exists that giant loophole for undocumented students.

ok so question 16 is the tough one.. it asks if florida is my state of legal residence and if i'm a citizen/non citizen/eligible non-citizen.

it also says in a link that:
i'm neither of those... :cry:

I'm neither of those as well. That's what originally discouraged me from applying. Just click that you are a non citizen. The application process will go on as normal. If you cannot accept aid for Fall 2007, you can call the people at the state up and tell them to defer it until DREAM comes out and they will. Just fill out the app, there's nothing to lose. I talked to countless lawyers and counselors and the people in charge of BF. Just continue the app stating that you are a non-citizen. You're not lying because you are stating (and at the end affirming) that you are not legal yet. BF is only for students that qualify for in-state. It doesn't have anything to do with being legal or no. If it did, I wouldn't have been able to receive aid and I have.

I also wanted to do Bright Futures coming out of high school, but when I was doing the FAFSA, they asked for the status or whatever. Anyway, I didn't end up applying for it. I'm not aware of any colleges in South Florida that do not accept illegal immigrants... none that I know of anyway. My brother goes to BCC and they accepted him, but he has to pay out of state tuition. And as for me, I go to Nova which is a private institution and they pretty much accept anyone, as long as you can afford it. Regardless of your grades, even.

Yeah, I know. A lot of people who deserved it have been discouraged because they thought they had to do the FAFSA, which is a big misconception. I almost didn't apply for BF until the week before graduation (its only available till June of the year you graduated) but I'm glad I did.

OK
 

HEY. I GOT INTO 2yr COLLEGE even Im not in those states.

I went directly to college and applied for classes.

Some people asked me if I have a social.

I said no.

They asked me if I have VISA.

I said no.

They asked if I lived here fore more than 3yrs and graduated,

I said yes.

Then I got into college.

Don't get afraid.

Be wise.

99% of time people at college admission won't call cops

because you are illegal.

They are nice.

However, you have to wise to choose time to meet admmistion people

because when it's too crowded, people around can hear you.

So. Don't de afraid, and be honest.

However, be wise. Don't tell about your situation to nobody

unless you know it is okay.

College people are nice. They are liberals also.

They won't cause you problems. Trust me.

Ummm it's not that easy. They search to make sure you are a high school graduate of the state. Please refrain from providing information that cannot be verified for the internet is a place where all kinds of people arise from.

Bumping this cause i'm applying for BF right now and since I'm not going to school next year i don't know what to put when it asks what institution i'm planning to attend. I'm putting down UF since that's where i plan on going when in a year, but if i don't end up going there will they give me problems for that?

EDIT: WOOHOO! I submitted my application, felt really good, lol

YAY!!! I'm going to UF too [assuming DREAM passes so I can qualify for in-state] =). But I'm really happy for you with the Bright Futures thing!! I know exactly how you feel =)

Now I'm wondering about the thing that says you have to be a legal resident for a year to qualify for in-state tuition. anybody know if Dream takes care of that?

Yeah I really want to go out of state (Notre Dame, go Irish!) but i've finally come to the realization that's not going to be financially possible even if i'm legal. I figure UF has an awesome sports program right now, so that's where i'm going. Maybe i'll see you there :)

According to the admissions lady. it does. All you have to do is show proof of income taxes or bank accounts in FL and you're set.


UF is the best public school in FL [source: US News and Reports and the Princeton Review] and has kickass relationships with big companies such as Lockheed-Martin, AmEx, Walt Disney, Citigroup and others. Wise decision ;) lol. [End UF plug here]


But yeah, it would be awesome to meet at least one person from the forum face-to-face. A big "We made it!" hug would be in order =). As well as a cyberhug to the entire forum. =)

Yeah, i know, i know. UF is great, even got a few legal cousins going there. But being an irish fan i really wanted to go to ND :(

So ummm.... what happens now? how long will i have to wait for an answer?

Answer to what?

to my application

http://www.firn.edu/doe/brfutures/elignotify.htm

How and When is a Student Notified of His/Her Eligibility?

Early Evaluations (7th Semester)

All students whose transcripts are submitted for an official early evaluation (based on academic progress in the middle of the last year of high school) will receive either an award or an ineligibility letter from the Florida Department of Education.

End-of-Year Evaluations (8th Semester)

If a student's transcript is submitted for an official evaluation after his/her last term in high school, the student will receive an award (or ineligibility letter) in August only if he/she did not receive an early evaluation or if the student's award status has improved since the early evaluation.

The Process

The award (or ineligibility letter) will be mailed to the address listed on a student's Florida Financial Aid Application within three weeks of the date his/her transcript is officially evaluated by the Florida Bright Futures Scholarship Program.

Included with an award letter will be:

* information about the award;
* instructions regarding how to notify the Florida Department of Education of the college the student plans to attend and how to correct any information Bright Futures has on file; and
* a User ID and Personal Identification Number (PIN) with instructions explaining how the student can access his/her Bright Futures record on the Internet.

A User ID and PIN will enable a student to:

o view his/her award;
o view his/her demographic information;
o view his/her postsecondary institution choice;
o view the amount disbursed each semester;
o view the spring renewal GPA;
o monitor his/her hours remaining for the year and for the scholarship; and
o view a list of correspondence mailed to him/her by the Florida Bright Futures Scholarship Program.

Included with an ineligibility letter will be:

* a User ID and Personal Identification Number (PIN) with instructions explaining how a student can monitor his/her eligibility status in the event the GPA or test scores improve prior to the end of June.

FACTS.org

The website www.FACTS.org allows public high school students to review their academic progress toward meeting initial eligibility requirements for the Florida Bright Futures Scholarship Program and course requirements for admission into the State University System. Public high school students in grades 9-12 may access their records by creating their own login ID and password.

College Notification

Notification of a student's award will be made available to all eligible postsecondary institutions via an Internet Directory of Eligible Students when a student's award status is official.

I live in Arizona and go to community college here and they definetly allow illegal immigrants here and offer them in-state tuition. You should really consider it here. I'm on a presidential scholarship right now that I thought would be impossible for me to get due to my legal status here.