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swiftp 04-17-2013 02:31 AM

Senate Bill Text Released
 
Full Bipartisan Senate Immigration Reform Bill Has Been Released by Sen. @ChuckSchumer

http://www.schumer.senate.gov/forms/immigration.pdf

DREAM part in plain English:

Individuals who entered the U.S. before the age of 16 and who have completed high school or obtained a GED in the U.S. may register for RPI status through the DREAM Act. RPI status provides work and travel authorization, as well as ability to enlist in the military, but no federal benefits (Obamacare, federal loans or grants, etc). There is no age cap for the program. Individuals who received Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals are grandfathered into RPI status. DREAM RPIs are exempted from penalties and the triggers. Five years after registration, DREAM RPIs may apply for adjustment of status to Permanent Residency if they have completed at least 2 years in an institution of higher education or 4 years in the military; their time in RPI status will count towards eligibility for naturalization, allowing them to become citizens immediately after receiving their green card. Children under age 16 have a five year path to citizenship and are exempted from certain requirements. The bill heightens child welfare protections to ensure parental rights are not terminated on the basis of a parent’s immigration status alone.

Resistant 04-17-2013 02:32 AM

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**1st

desice 04-17-2013 02:34 AM

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man, i just got on to check before bed. what are the odds?

edit: spoiler alert - 844 pages. I guess I have some reading to do tomorrow.

Resistant 04-17-2013 02:38 AM

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Skip to page 110 to read the DREAM Act section.

desice 04-17-2013 02:45 AM

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Like Resistant said, DREAM Act begins on page 110.

Here is info on DACA:

Quote:

"C) DACA RECIPIENTS.—The Secretary may adopt streamlined procedures for applicants for adjustment to lawful permanent resident status under this section who were granted Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (referred to in this paragraph as ‘DACA’) pursuant to the Secretary’s memorandum of June 15, 2012.'
I am out for tonite.

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 02:45 AM

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A) I
N GENERAL
.—The Secretary of
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Homeland Security may adjust the status of a
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registered provisional immigrant to the status
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of a lawful permanent resident if the immigrant
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demonstrates that he or she—
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‘‘(i) has been a registered provisional
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immigrant for at least 5 years;
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‘‘(ii) was younger than 16 years of
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age on the date on which the alien initially
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entered the United States;
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‘‘(iii) has earned a high school di-
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ploma or obtained a general education de-
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velopment certificate in the United States;
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‘‘(iv)(I) has acquired a degree from an
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institution of higher education or has com-
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pleted at least 2 years, in good standing,
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in a program for a bachelor’s degree or
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higher degree in the United States; or
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Resistant 04-17-2013 02:48 AM

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"DACA RECIPIENTS--The Secretary may adopt streamlined procedures for applicants for adjustment to lawful permanent resident status under this section who were granted Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals."

RJD 04-17-2013 02:50 AM

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seems like we need to complete 2 yrs in college or serve 4 yrs in the military

http://www.gabeswebsite.com/images/r...ve_carrell.gif

swiftp 04-17-2013 02:51 AM

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Looks like we'll be Registered Provisional Immigrants for 5 years as opposed to Conditional Permanent Residents. Which means no federal financial aid, among other drawbacks.

g33k 04-17-2013 02:52 AM

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Basically to be a PR, you need:
-5 years of being a registered provisional immigrant
-Came before 16 yo
-High School Diploma
-Have completed at least 2 years of higher education for a BA

Cris_32 04-17-2013 02:53 AM

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Soo are we going to be able to join the service with RPI?

g33k 04-17-2013 02:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cris_32 (Post 461217)
Soo are we going to be able to join the service with RPI?

Most likely because it talks about 2 years in higher education or 4 years in the military

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 02:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Resistant (Post 461212)
"DACA RECIPIENTS--The Secretary may adopt streamlined procedures for applicants for adjustment to lawful permanent resident status under this section who were granted Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals."



the keyword is MAY

but this is looking great I am loving what I am reading

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 02:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 461218)
Most likely because it talks about 2 years in higher education or 4 years in the military

Yes, but thats only if you were NOT daca approved,


Quote:

DACA RECIPIENTS--The Secretary may adopt streamlined procedures for applicants for adjustment to lawful permanent resident status under this section who were granted Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals
NO CONDITIONAL IN THERE

THIS IS GREAT!!

Resistant 04-17-2013 02:57 AM

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Let me make a personal fact-check list:

*I came to the U.S. in 1992 (check)
*I graduated from high school (check)
*I graduate with a B.S. in Business Management this May (check)
*I am a DACA beneficiary (check)

Lawful status here i come! (:

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 02:59 AM

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if you were DACA approved, you don't even need the qualifactions of this version of the Dream Act as , being DACA approved is enough for green cards!!!

desice 04-17-2013 03:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 461220)
NO CONDITIONAL IN THERE

THIS IS GREAT!!

So does that mean [RPI and then greencard/citizenship] or straight to [greencard and then citizenship]?

I only ask because on page 111 lines 13 & 14:

"(i) has been a registered provisional immigrant for at least 5 years"

which is a requirement that DACA recipients have not met.

Cris_32 04-17-2013 03:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 461220)
Yes, but thats only if you were NOT daca approved,




NO CONDITIONAL IN THERE

THIS IS GREAT!!

Ok ? I don't see why they would let someone that was not DACA approved join the forces & someone that's was not let them join

swiftp 04-17-2013 03:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 461223)
if you were DACA approved, you don't even need the qualifactions of this version of the Dream Act as , being DACA approved is enough for green cards!!!

The text is not clear if that means DACA'ers get PR right away or if "streamlined procedures" just means that you won't have to submit all the evidence again and get approved like before--a more streamlined process to apply but still have to fulfill the 5 year Registered Provisional Immigrant requirement.

Cris_32 04-17-2013 03:09 AM

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Idk if this was posted but this article was easy for me to understand

http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/po...-for-dreamers/

desice 04-17-2013 03:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swiftp (Post 461227)
The text is not clear if that means DACA'ers get PR right away or if "streamlined procedures" just means that you won't have to submit all the evidence again and get approved like before--a more streamlined process to apply but still have to fulfill the 5 year Registered Provisional Immigrant requirement.

well "streamlined procedures" would mean that the Secretary can use a much more simple process for DACA recipients since USCIS already has their information. it does not say streamlined pathway. furthermore, the entire section of the DREAM act is set to address adjustment of status from RPI to PR. RPI adjustment is addressed in another section.

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 03:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by desice (Post 461224)
So does that mean [RPI and then greencard/citizenship] or straight to [greencard and then citizenship]?

I only ask because on page 111 lines 13 & 14:

"(i) has been a registered provisional immigrant for at least 5 years"

which is a requirement that DACA recipients have not met.



yes, but in essense, DACA part is a SUB part of this chacterory then notice how it goes back to roman numbers, DACA part was just a side note, if you don thave DACA then yes, you have to complete thtose 5 years of provisional immigrant

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 03:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swiftp (Post 461227)
The text is not clear if that means DACA'ers get PR right away or if "streamlined procedures" just means that you won't have to submit all the evidence again and get approved like before--a more streamlined process to apply but still have to fulfill the 5 year Registered Provisional Immigrant requirement.

hmmm this is true.....

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 03:14 AM

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looks like I ll be up all night reading through this

g33k 04-17-2013 03:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 461230)
yes, but in essense, DACA part is a SUB part of this chacterory then notice how it goes back to roman numbers, DACA part was just a side note, if you don thave DACA then yes, you have to complete thtose 5 years of provisional immigrant

DACA then means making the 31 years cut off mark...?

So the 5 year provisional immigrant applies to the people who doesn't qualify for DACA due to age?

Text not clear

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 03:16 AM

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yeah and 15


with the Dream Act in this bill
is more lenient, 16 years, and under 36 (not 35 like we heard at first)

but you have to complete those 5 years first

it looks they MIGHT go through another path thought the word path is NOT used there but DACA approved people might just have a different way

not_today 04-17-2013 03:19 AM

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Thanks, OP. It's beautiful.

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 03:20 AM

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This is awesome not we just need to hope it gets passed and favored above the houses versions

Resistant 04-17-2013 03:21 AM

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So when is the house version going to be introduced?

oneday6 04-17-2013 03:22 AM

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I know im jumping ahead here, but what's a realistic timeline for a vote on an immigration bill? Summer?

Tonyhasadream 04-17-2013 03:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by not_today (Post 461240)
Thanks, OP. It's beautiful.

I'm about half asleep here, so being DACA approved means? PR?

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 03:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonyhasadream (Post 461247)
I'm about half asleep here, so being DACA approved means? PR?

it MAY

Tonyhasadream 04-17-2013 03:31 AM

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Such a stressful year lol

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 03:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oneday6 (Post 461245)
I know im jumping ahead here, but what's a realistic timeline for a vote on an immigration bill? Summer?

May 6

swiftp 04-17-2013 03:32 AM

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People approved for RPI can enlist in the military:
Quote:

(b) ENLISTMENT IN THE ARMED FORCES.—Section504(b)(1) of title 10, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following: ‘‘(D) An alien who has been granted registered provisional immigrant status under section 245B of the Immigration and Nationality Act.’’.

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 03:34 AM

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no far no mention of benefits, so it looks like as told, no federal benefits of any kind with RPI status

Cris_32 04-17-2013 03:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by swiftp (Post 461256)
People approved for RPI can enlist in the military:

Yesss!!! :'D

g33k 04-17-2013 03:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 461243)
This is awesome not we just need to hope it gets passed and favored above the houses versions

If it doesn't...such a waste of work that was put in...almost 900 pages

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-17-2013 03:39 AM

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hmm interesting

Quote:

(13) D
ACA RECIPIENTS
.—Unless the Secretary
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determines that an alien who was granted Deferred
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Action for Childhood Arrivals (referred to in this
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paragraph as ‘DACA’) pursuant to the Secretary’s
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memorandum of June 15, 2012, has engaged in con-
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duct since the alien was granted DACA that would
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make the alien ineligible for registered provisional
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immigrant status, the Secretary may grant such sta-
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tus to the alien if renewed national security and law
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enforcement clearances have been completed on be-
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half of the alien.
it looks like even with DACA we are getting RPI after all =/

unrealunknown92 04-17-2013 03:42 AM

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Dream Act (p 110, line 4)

First, dreamers must apply for CPR (conditional/provisional permanent resident). After meeting certain conditions, Dreamers can apply of PR.

To adjust for Permanent Residence (Green Card)
1. Have CPR for at least five years
2. Arrived in the US before 16 years old.
3. Earned a High School Diploma or GED
4. a. Acquired a degree from an accredited college/university or at least 2 years into one. OR b. Served in the military for at least 4 years.
5. Submit Biometrics (fingerprints, photo, background checks)

DACA recipients (p 115, line 22)
1. Are grandfathered into the Dream Act
2. Would be provided streamlined procedures-it's up to the Secretary of Homeland Security-for CPR.
*Meaning: Those who have applied and have been approved for DACA would be processed/adjusted (faster?) for CPR.



Dreamer --> CPR --> PR --> Citizenship.


It's 1:30 am where I'm at. This is the best summary I can make of it.

**Please note that this is the Gang of 8's plan. The bill is still subject for debate/amendments. Plus there's the House Bill as well**


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