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JJ Glo 07-13-2013 02:20 AM

George Zimmerman trial
 
I'm just curious to see if anyone has been following this trial. I tried to watch as much as I could, just missed a few days of it.

What's your verdict?

*Guilty of 2nd degree murder

*Guilty of manslaughter

*Not guilty

In my opinion, the state did not meet their burden of proof.

SK18 07-13-2013 02:22 AM

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Not guilty, media hype galore.

Well that's what my personal opinion is currently. But I do support our jury system, and whatever they decide goes. There was a good article about this on yahoo today:

http://news.yahoo.com/zimmerman-jury...162313256.html

JJ Glo 07-13-2013 02:27 AM

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I agree.

This case was intensified by the media classifying Zimmerman as white, then showing pictures of Trayvon Martin of when he was around 11 years old and repeatedly calling him a small boy and child, even though he was 17 and far from being a child as evident from his school problems and drug use.

g33k 07-13-2013 03:33 AM

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Zimmerman is innocent.

I work at a convenient store. I know these types of teens that try to pick up fights just because they think they are invincible. I was close to slapping the crap out of some of them. They think they are grown men.

zone2oo0 07-13-2013 04:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 497388)
Zimmerman is innocent.

I work at a convenient store. I know these types of teens that try to pick up fights just because they think they are invincible. I was close to slapping the crap out of some of them. They think they are grown men.

soon as you let go of your composure then you sink to their level. That's why its best to just walk away and let them throw feces at each other. Or bananas, which ever suits best.

George Zimmerman is innocent, and if they convict him is to stop the "New Black Panther" party from starting shit.

Dream becomes Reality 07-13-2013 04:36 AM

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I don't like where this thread is headed and it NEEDS to be closed. At the end of the day a 17 year old CHILD lost his life, please be mindful of that before you go on your rants about working at a convenience store and your experiences there, people throwing ''feces or bananas'' (whatever THAT means) and so on. I just don't think that SOME members here have the mental capacity to have an intelligent debate on this trial without being indirectly rude or offensive.

g33k 07-13-2013 05:21 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 497395)
I don't like where this thread is headed and it NEEDS to be closed. At the end of the day a 17 year old CHILD lost his life, please be mindful of that before you go on your rants about working at a convenience store and your experiences there, people throwing ''feces or bananas'' (whatever THAT means) and so on. I just don't think that SOME members here have the mental capacity to have an intelligent debate on this trial without being indirectly rude or offensive.

Butt hurt? You have to respect people's opinion. You shouldn't be commenting if you only want to see people agreeing with you.

YoGi 07-13-2013 06:45 AM

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divide et impera

http://i39.tinypic.com/2m3lmyv.jpg

VeryNicePerson1 07-13-2013 09:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by YoGi (Post 497405)

Neo wins that post...lol...

hooligan111988 07-13-2013 10:59 AM

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innocent.

Morrow 07-13-2013 01:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 497401)
You have to respect people's opinion.

In general sense, this is wrong. People have stupid opinions, and you shouldn't support those who believe in outrages things (aliens, propaganda and ... creationist).

On topic, I believe both party is at fault, maybe manslaughter...

Happyman0607 07-13-2013 01:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 497395)
I don't like where this thread is headed and it NEEDS to be closed. At the end of the day a 17 year old CHILD lost his life, please be mindful of that before you go on your rants about working at a convenience store and your experiences there, people throwing ''feces or bananas'' (whatever THAT means) and so on. I just don't think that SOME members here have the mental capacity to have an intelligent debate on this trial without being indirectly rude or offensive.

Oh god, this child again with his "this offends me, please close it down" it seems like every time something about blacks and whites comes up you get butthurt.. Just an observation I've made..

Either way, I know what kind of kid trayvon is, he fucked with the wrong guy and got laid out... Zimmerman is not guilty.. I feel bad for the guy cause he was set free until the Afro 'Merico community rallied up and then they arrested and charged him..

Resistant 07-13-2013 02:08 PM

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Guilty or not, his fate are on the hands of those six jurors.

g33k 07-13-2013 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 497395)
I don't like where this thread is headed and it NEEDS to be closed. At the end of the day a 17 year old CHILD lost his life, please be mindful of that before you go on your rants about working at a convenience store and your experiences there, people throwing ''feces or bananas'' (whatever THAT means) and so on. I just don't think that SOME members here have the mental capacity to have an intelligent debate on this trial without being indirectly rude or offensive.

Child? Around 6ft with tattoos? Who smokes marijuana? Isn't the legal age to smoke 18?
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morrow (Post 497452)
In general sense, this is wrong. People have stupid opinions, and you shouldn't support those who believe in outrages things (aliens, propaganda and ... creationist).

On topic, I believe both party is at fault, maybe manslaughter...

It doesn't matter if they have stupid opinions. You still have to respect it.

hooligan111988 07-13-2013 04:03 PM

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i have a question.. dont be offended by it... but does anyone know there are african americans that believe that zimmerman is innocent??

g33k 07-13-2013 04:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan111988 (Post 497505)
i have a question.. dont be offended by it... but does anyone know there are african americans that believe that zimmerman is innocent??

Not really. The ones I know think Zimmerman is guilty.

They asked me if I think Zimmerman is guilty or not. I just said Zimmerman is guilty because that's what they want to hear. I do think that Zimmerman is innocent, no doubt.

IamAman 07-13-2013 04:19 PM

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My feelings, I think Zimmerman is a punk who wanted to play the part of a cop, got way in over his head and had to kill Trayvon once it was too late. Not saying Trayvon was an angel and was probably also a punk, but being one is not a crime and certainly doesn't deserve the death penalty.

How will it turn out? My hope is at least guilty of manslaughter, but knowing white people, he'll probably either walk or at best a hung jury.

hooligan111988 07-13-2013 04:28 PM

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i think itll be a hung jury... but i think he's innocent

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-13-2013 04:36 PM

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Hes not innocent this man will rot in jail

g33k 07-13-2013 04:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 497520)
Hes not innocent this man will rot in jail

He is innocent.

Atelier 07-13-2013 04:40 PM

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Guilty of killing a person...

I don't really care for the race factors, prejudice or any other justifications. The act of justifying murder is just wrong to me. Unless it was something extreme like an armed robber breaking into your house or a girl in danger of being raped, etc...

"Self defence" when Trevon did not have a gun is not good enough imo.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-13-2013 04:40 PM

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why because he took action towards another human being when told the police not too? Because the other guy beat him up? Well no shit you're gonna get beat up if youre stalking someone with a gun when told by the police not to engage.

hooligan111988 07-13-2013 04:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 497524)
why because he took action towards another human being when told the police not too? Because the other guy beat him up? Well no shit you're gonna get beat up if youre stalking someone with a gun when told by the police not to engage.

wheres the proof that zimmerman confronted him first?

hooligan111988 07-13-2013 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Atelier (Post 497523)
Guilty of killing a person...

I don't really care for the race factors, prejudice or any other justifications. The act of justifying murder is just wrong to me. Unless it was something extreme like an armed robber breaking into your house or a girl in danger of being raped, etc...

"Self defence" when Trevon did not have a gun is not good enough imo.

a person is perfectly capable of killing another person without an aid of a weapon.. if someones starts banging your head on the ground... you would def feel your life is in danger.

Atelier 07-13-2013 04:47 PM

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True but Zimmerman clearly had enough "strength" to shoot the kid... He was not getting hopelessly beaten to death. The bruising from the pictures on the media are too light to suspect such situation.

g33k 07-13-2013 04:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Atelier (Post 497528)
True but Zimmerman clearly had enough "strength" to shoot the kid... He was not getting hopelessly beaten to death. The bruising from the pictures on the media are too light to suspect such situation.

These "kids" act like grown men. He had the choice to go home but rather had the audacity to confront the vigilante.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-13-2013 04:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan111988 (Post 497526)
wheres the proof that zimmerman confronted him first?

The fact that he did not listen to the cops is enough. Would you like to talk about absence of evidence is not evidence of absence?

g33k 07-13-2013 05:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 497530)
The fact that he did not listen to the cops is enough. Would you like to talk about absence of evidence is not evidence of absence?

This is a matter of survival. If your life is in danger, you will do whatever it takes to survive. It is human nature. You obviously don't know whats out there on the streets. Thugs think they own the streets until they meet someone who ends their life.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-13-2013 05:01 PM

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Exactly Martin should have been carrying a taser

hooligan111988 07-13-2013 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by g33k (Post 497531)
This is a matter of survival. If your life is in danger, you will do whatever it takes to survive. It is human nature. You obviously don't know whats out there on the streets. Thugs think they own the streets until they meet someone who ends their life.

exactly.. and the kid wasnt a saint as his friends believe... the mom said during the trial that he had two praying hands as a tattoo on his shoulder... why is that even relevant to the case... theyre trying to portray him as a good kid... i guess they didnt see the pictures later released from martin's phone.

g33k 07-13-2013 05:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 497532)
Exactly Martin should have been carrying a taser

He carried a screwdriver and women jewelry while in school.

g33k 07-13-2013 05:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hooligan111988 (Post 497533)
exactly.. and the kid wasnt a saint as his friends believe... the mom said during the trial that he had two praying hands as a tattoo on his shoulder... why is that even relevant to the case... theyre trying to portray him as a good kid... i guess they didnt see the pictures later released from martin's phone.

If he was a kid, he would have walking with an adult.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-13-2013 05:14 PM

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And Zimmerman is a racist person who often time called the police on black people. Not to mention the FACT the the police reported him calling these people "cons" and taking action even when told NOT confront the person.

g33k 07-13-2013 05:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 497538)
And Zimmerman is a racist person who often time called the police on black people. Not to mention the FACT the the police reported him calling these people "cons" and taking action even when told NOT confront the person.

They were most likely the only ones causing trouble.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-13-2013 05:31 PM

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most likely so you're not even sure

g33k 07-13-2013 05:36 PM

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Let me make another point. There has been a lot of incidents where the cops make traffic stops and they shoot the person just because they reach to their pockets. The cops instantly think their life is in danger. There was one incident that happened recently and it involved a military/marine person who was stopped by cops and shot because of the same reason. How is this not considered life threatening if it went beyond? This went up a level into the physical altercation.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-13-2013 05:41 PM

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Yes but Zimmerman was not a cop. Literally some guard who calls cops on random black people

g33k 07-13-2013 05:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 497549)
Yes but Zimmerman was not a cop. Literally some guard who calls cops on random black people

That's not my point. My point is that if your life is in danger, you will do whatever it takes to survive. I am not just talking about this case but also the basic needs such as shelter, water and food.

Pianoswithoutfaith 07-13-2013 05:59 PM

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And why was his life in danger in the first place? he didn't listen to the 9/11 operators and knowing something could happened decided to stalk him.

Happyman0607 07-13-2013 06:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 497524)
why because he took action towards another human being when told the police not too? Because the other guy beat him up? Well no shit you're gonna get beat up if youre stalking someone with a gun when told by the police not to engage.

Cops will never tell you to take action because of legal concerns. For example if they said to engage then they would get sued. Let me choke you, break your nose and slam your head against concrete and reach for your gun and tell me if you'd shoot me or you'd sit there and get shot with your own gun. Zimmermans life was in danger so he did the only thing he could; neutralize the attacker.

Trayvon is a punk who tried his MMA moves on the wrong motherfucker.


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