Originally Posted by dreamact1982 (Post 90048)

LOL 18 months yea right..How many miles has been built in 12 months? 5 miles, and that has stopped.. http://www.firesociety.com/article/19253

Lets see 854 miles of border divided by 12.. Yea in about 71 yrs the border will be secure..If they dont stop the work which they already did ,just after 12 months/5 miles... I guess this is another job Americans can't do.....Let the illegals secure the border

Congress last night passed a giant new spending bill that undermines current plans for a U.S.-Mexico border fence, allowing the Homeland Security Department to build a single-tier barrier rather than the two-tier version that has worked in California…The 2006 Secure Fence Act specifically called for “two layers of reinforced fencing” and listed five specific sections of border where it should be installed. The new spending bill removes the two-tier requirement and the list of locations.

“This is either a blatant oversight or a deliberate attempt to disregard the border security of our country,” the New York Republican said. “As it’s currently written, the omnibus language guts the Secure Fence Act almost entirely. Quite simply, it is unacceptable.”

Originally Posted by dreamact1982 (Post 90051)

Ok so how many miles has been built?

Originally Posted by Mona Lisa (Post 90054)

they will never finish that wall

mark my words

Originally Posted by dreamact1982 (Post 90051)

Ok so how many miles has been built? You are right maybe Specter is an idiot, and i was too generous with the numbers

"Why not enforce existing law?
In 2006, Congress enacted the Secure Fence Act to provide for 700 miles of fence along our southern border — a border that stretches some 2,000 miles. As Rich Lowery from National Review pointed out last week, .00286 percent (or two miles out of 700 called for by the Congress) has been built. As to why Congress won’t build a fence sufficient to cover our border is beyond me, but two miles is hardly a courageous start. The devil is apparently in the details with the new bill they’re hoping to ram through before anyone notices the specifics relating to a fence: the Senate now proposes to build only 370 miles out of the 700 miles originally contemplated and enacted by the Congress. I could be wrong, but can someone please explain how less fencing along our borders makes us more secure?"

http://thehill.com/op-eds/immigratio...007-05-21.html

Originally Posted by lilbawler2001 (Post 90077)

Why the hell do you keep posting anti-immigration articles? Just because you might be leaving doesn't mean you have to turn against us.

Originally Posted by dreamact1982 (Post 90098)

What you mean im turning against you?! Im turning against you guys because im stating the facts as to how many miles of fence has been built?! I told you it was 5 miles, and you responded by basically saying that i got my info from a loco group.... Then i found another legitimate source "The Hill" which they say, its not even 5 miles.

Just because its 2 or 5 miles dont be going off on me because im stating the facts, and you cant find a source to back up your claim of "I will find out but i know it's not 5 miles" does not make me anti-immigrant... If it was 200 or 500 miles more power to us, we probably wont even have to wait at all. So i dont even know where you going with this, because im posting an article where it states the facts about the current "progress" on the border...

Its awesome that you are so optimistic, but when you have Congress that says it needs to secure the border first and they retract the bill to do that, i dont know where you going to get you legalization from. Because it definitely wont be from people that have filibustered 58 bills during first 12 months of new Congress... You know what the record was for 24 months of the last Congress? 56 bills.. So you know where this is going.

2006- CIR failed
2007 - CIR failed
2007- Dream Act vote failed
2006-2007 - Retraction of Bill that must secure the border first, before any legalization program occurs

So i think you misunderstood me. Im not anti immigrant, im anti 109-110 Congress

Originally Posted by lilbawler2001 (Post 90111)

First of all that article was in may and an article being in the hill doesn't mean it wasn't written by an anti-immigrant writer. Here are some quotes from your article

Late last week Heritage Foundation policy expert Robert Rector revealed some rather startling statistics that the Senate is apparently too busy to consider. Rector estimates that there are some 9 million (probably a low estimate) working-age individuals here in the United States illegally. Should the Congress provide amnesty or some other path to citizenship, the benefits paid out by the government to these folks will be in excess of $2.5 trillion, yes trillion, when they reach retirement age. Who is going to pay for all of this? Us, of course.

The heritage foundation has always been anti-immigration so i sure don't buy anything they say concerning immigration.

Moreover, I’m tired of listening to congressional supporters discuss how illegal aliens will retreat from the shadows of society but be forced to the back of the line to apply for legal status. That claim is laughably absurd on its face: If an alien who is in this country illegally is allowed some form of legal protection to stay in the United States, he is placed at the front rather than the back of the line. Explain that to some resident of Cameroon who has followed our immigration laws to the letter and has been waiting and remains in his home country for permission to enter the United States legally. How about we enforce the laws currently on the books dealing with immigration before granting amnesty and legal status upon millions of people who have broken and flaunted existing laws.

This was an op-ed and reflects only the view of the writer.

Okay this is how many miles of fence they got up now


As of today, we have more than 151 miles of fence on the Southern border and 72 miles of new fence, which exceeds our goal. We also have 114 miles of vehicle fencing, with plans to reach 300 miles by the end of next year- Michael Chertoff (Oct 1st 2007)


http://www.dhs.gov/journal/leadershi...0security.html

Originally Posted by J6 (Post 90070)

People want progress <---> let's wait 18 months.

Is there some kind of backward logic these people are following?