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SEPT 06 02-23-2017 10:05 PM

CBP, Ask identification of domestic flight passengers landing at NYC
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.15ed14257eaa

Dreamer10101010 02-23-2017 10:16 PM

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U.S. Customs and Border Protection confirmed Thursday that their agents requested to see the identification of domestic flight passengers landing at a New York airport Wednesday night as they searched for an undocumented immigrant who had received a deportation order to leave the United States.
Looks like ICE was looking for someone specifically.

Swim19 02-23-2017 10:18 PM

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The question is:

Quote:

It is unclear what would have happened had officials found other undocumented immigrants getting off the airplane and whether they would have faced deportation if identified. It is also unclear what would have happened to any passenger who refused to produce his or her identification for the agents.

guslopez622 02-24-2017 02:18 AM

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that was a waste of money and all that just for 1 guy. You have to imagine that they're going to run out money soon.

Scottish Bolt Cutters 02-24-2017 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by guslopez622 (Post 606177)
that was a waste of money and all that just for 1 guy. You have to imagine that they're going to run out money soon.

Shhh... don't spoil it.

Ianus 02-24-2017 10:15 AM

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Why let him on in the first place?

If they were looking for him TSA could have simply pull him aside. A waste of resources checking everyone. CBP must have been hoping to catch more people from this act who were accompanying him. However, they do have the right do this as all airports are their jurisdiction.

Dreamer10101010 02-24-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 606186)
Why let him on in the first place?

If they were looking for him TSA could have simply pull him aside. A waste of resources checking everyone. CBP must have been hoping to catch more people from this act who were accompanying him. However, they do have the right do this as all airports are their jurisdiction.

Because TSA is not 100% efficient.

IamAman 02-24-2017 11:31 AM

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I gotta hand it to this website. We are on top of the news. I just saw this story and came to post it lol.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-24-2017 11:36 AM

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Good point to the people who point at the efficiency of enforcement.

Money will indeed run out.

This executive order sounds bad, but full implementation will take years.

fl_dreamer 02-24-2017 12:37 PM

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Anyone think this is coverup? Saying they were looking for someone to avoid bad press?

1) Why didn't they just go on the flight and say, we are looking for XYZ. If you are on the flight, please step up.

2) They said the person never boarded the plane but officials could not confirmed that with the airline/flight attendees. What was the point in asking everyone to show "documents".

CaptainLee 02-24-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fl_dreamer (Post 606209)
Anyone think this is coverup? Saying they were looking for someone to avoid bad press?

No. What do you think their main intention was?


Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_dreamer (Post 606209)
1) Why didn't they just go on the flight and say, we are looking for XYZ. If you are on the flight, please step up.

The person is a convicted criminal, he may grab someone as hostage, escape, he could of change appearance. Who knows?

Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_dreamer (Post 606209)
2) They said the person never boarded the plane but officials could not confirmed that with the airline/flight attendees. What was the point in asking everyone to show "documents".

To ID themselves and see if they are who they say they are.

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-25-2017 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainLee (Post 606221)
No. What do you think their main intention was?



The person is a convicted criminal, he may grab someone as hostage, escape, he could of change appearance. Who knows?


To ID themselves and see if they are who they say they are.


"
The person is a convicted criminal, he may grab someone as hostage, escape, he could of change appearance. Who knows?
"

wait wouldnt he seeing iCE check for ID would cause him to grab someone as hostage since you know hes a convicted criminal?

biscuitneck 02-25-2017 11:09 AM

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Great. Now if you don't have DACA or any other kind of protection then you can't even board a domestic flight anymore.

This is an absurd overreach of authority by DHS. What would have happened if people refused to show their ID's or if agents would have encountered just a random undocumented person?

Civil rights are about to be tested like never before under this administration.

JohannBernoulli1667 02-25-2017 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by biscuitneck (Post 606317)
Great. Now if you don't have DACA or any other kind of protection then you can't even board a domestic flight anymore.

This is an absurd overreach of authority by DHS. What would have happened if people refused to show their ID's or if agents would have encountered just a random undocumented person?

Civil rights are about to be tested like never before under this administration.


Undocumented people should not fly in the first place

IamAman 02-25-2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 606318)
Undocumented people should not fly in the first place

I've flown many times...In the last 15 years however it's been only when absolutely needed.

biscuitneck 02-25-2017 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667 (Post 606318)
Undocumented people should not fly in the first place

In my 16 years being here, it's never been a problem before.

But then again I look white, speak flawless English, and am always looking very dapper when i fly. TSA has never once looked twice at my foreign passport when i go through security.

Now, i'm not sure i'll board a domestic flight anymore.

mjemilio84 02-25-2017 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by biscuitneck (Post 606323)
In my 16 years being here, it's never been a problem before.

But then again I look white, speak flawless English, and am always looking very dapper when i fly. TSA has never once looked twice at my foreign passport when i go through security.

Now, i'm not sure i'll board a domestic flight anymore.

my aunt's brother is white you don't even believe his mexican, white, blue eyes, tall, you will think he is American his luck ran out got caught in jfk taking a flight to lax now he is in Monterrey

biscuitneck 02-26-2017 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mjemilio84 (Post 606380)
my aunt's brother is white you don't even believe his mexican, white, blue eyes, tall, you will think he is American his luck ran out got caught in jfk taking a flight to lax now he is in Monterrey

How exactly did he get caught?

fl_dreamer 02-28-2017 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mjemilio84 (Post 606380)
my aunt's brother is white you don't even believe his mexican, white, blue eyes, tall, you will think he is American his luck ran out got caught in jfk taking a flight to lax now he is in Monterrey

When was this?

fl_dreamer 02-28-2017 11:36 AM

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I fly for work all the time. Usually from Dallas to Laguardia to this happening at JFK was a little too close to home and mad scary.

mjemilio84 03-01-2017 02:54 PM

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The tsa agent checked his passport ask him to follow him into a room, immigration came in ask him his legal status, arrested him and was deported. This was in 2011


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