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Dres2011 04-18-2017 05:31 PM
First Dreamer Deported under trump
 
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Federal agents have deported the first “Dreamer” of President Trump’s tenure so far, according to an examination of his administration’s immigration policies.

Juan Manuel Montes, who first arrived in the U.S. at age 9, is now in his native Mexico despite having active protection under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, USA Today reported Tuesday.

“Some people told me that they were going to deport me; others said nothing would happen,” Montes said from his aunt and uncle’s home in western Mexico.

“I thought that if I kept my nose clean nothing would happen,” he added, requesting the exact location of his whereabouts remain unknown.
USA Today said a U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CPB) officer approached Montes, 23, the evening of Feb. 17 in Calexico, Calif.

Montes had left his wallet in a friend’s car, meaning he could not display his ID or DACA status during the encounter. The “Dreamer” ended up in Mexico hours later, USA Today continued, after agents told him he could not retrieve his documents.

USA Today added that Montes was twice granted deportation protections under DACA before his ejection in February.

DACA lets qualifying undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children obtain work permits and relief from deportation based on their migratory status.

Former President Barack Obama first implemented the policy in June 2012, and it now boasts 750,000 participants.

Trump vowed to end DACA during his 2016 election campaign, but has since spoken sympathetically of the young people benefiting from it.

“DACA is a very, very difficult subject for me,” he said in February, adding he hoped to tackle the issue “with heart.”

United We Dream, an advocacy organization made up of DACA enrollees and other young immigrants, says at least 10 so-called “Dreamers” are in federal custody.

The Trump administration has said DACA recipients are not a deportation priority, with its focus instead being criminal undocumented immigrants.



http://thehill.com/latino/329389-fir...ed-under-trump

Dres2011 04-18-2017 05:34 PM
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Within three hours, he was back in Mexico, becoming the first undocumented immigrant with active DACA status deported by the Trump administration's stepped-up deportation policy.

Elmexicano 04-18-2017 05:37 PM
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ump/100583274/

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Court records show he has four convictions: one for shoplifting in January 2016, and three for driving without a license, most recently three months ago.

Those convictions are not serious enough to disqualify him from DACA protections, according to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the federal agency that approves DACA applications.
Under trump they are serious.

Swim19 04-18-2017 05:39 PM
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He had minor convictions, but most importantly he should have never signed those papers, which allowed ICE to quickly remove him.

Dres2011 04-18-2017 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 611646)
He had minor convictions, but most importantly he should have never signed those papers, which allowed ICE to quickly remove him.
His disability may have prevented him from fully understanding what he was signing.

Swim19 04-18-2017 05:46 PM
Re: First Dreamer Deported under trump
 
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Originally Posted by Dres2011 (Post 611647)
His disability may have prevented him from fully understanding what he was signing.
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. He most likely would have been eventually released if he had refused to sign with help of a lawyer/activists.

Demise 04-18-2017 05:46 PM
Re: First Dreamer Deported under trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 611646)
He had minor convictions, but most importantly he should have never signed those papers, which allowed ICE to quickly remove him.
Basically this, don't sign anything that ICE gives you. 99% of the time it will be form I-243 that you basically ask to be removed and waive any and all rights to fight that.

Only recourse here would be to file a case with the Court of Appeals for whatever circuit he lived in. Whereas unlikely it has happened that a CoA ordered ICE to return a deportee back to the states.

isk84life 04-18-2017 06:06 PM
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He will be back soon. Just wait until this becomes a headline.

Demise 04-18-2017 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 611651)
He will be back soon. Just wait until this becomes a headline.
Cheeky move would be to apply for advance parole from abroad.

Dres2011 04-18-2017 06:12 PM
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I don't think deported dreamer #1501, will be coming back.

andreagb 04-18-2017 06:25 PM
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He has already been deported twice this makes his case even trickier
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Montes said he was jumped from behind, mugged and beaten. At that point, he decided he needed to get back home. He saw some people using a rope to climb over a section of the border wall and joined them. He was quickly captured by federal agents, questioned again and deported again.

ceaguila 04-18-2017 06:29 PM
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Calexico is also like 5 miles from the border, fuck going there.

Got_Daca 04-18-2017 06:34 PM
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Basically he signed away his rights voluntarily and left US without AP. And got caught trying to enter illegally.

Difficult legal situation.

isk84life 04-18-2017 06:37 PM
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He's done

He decided he needed to get back home. He saw some people using a rope to climb over a section of the border wall and joined them. He was quickly captured by federal agents, questioned again and deported again.

APinfo 04-18-2017 06:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 611646)
He had minor convictions, but most importantly he should have never signed those papers, which allowed ICE to quickly remove him.
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't shoplifting a priority 2 for deportation, even under Obama? These guys seem to not care one bit about it. Anything goes. Nobody is spared. I really do wonder what's going to happen to DACA people with old convictions.

andreagb 04-18-2017 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by APinfo (Post 611661)
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but wasn't shoplifting a priority 2 for deportation, even under Obama? These guys seem to not care one bit about it. Anything goes. Nobody is spared. I really do wonder what's going to happen to DACA people with old convictions.
No shoplifting has never been priority 2 for deportations unless it was an aggravated felony or burglary. On the other hand DUIs, domestic violence, and drug related convictions had been priority 2 under Obama

Dreamer3ooo 04-18-2017 07:02 PM
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I feel very sorry for this guy. Trying to re-enter illegally has made his case so much worse. After finding out about his mental problems it is easy to imagine how he was bullied and scared into signing his deportation docs. I wish there was something that could be done for his case, but with two deports on his record things look really bad for him. I hope his attorneys are able to prove wrongful deportation and then attribute his attempt to re-enter illegally as "fruit of the poisonous tree" or something, but I'm not sure if that legal concept would apply in his case.

This really sucks though, I feel so bad for him. People living that close to the border need to be extra careful. Always carry your EAD and NEVER sign anything ICE gives you.

APinfo 04-18-2017 07:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andreagb (Post 611663)
No shoplifting has never been priority 2 for deportations unless it was an aggravated felony or burglary. On the other hand DUIs, domestic violence, and drug related convictions had been priority 2 under Obama
Maybe I read an earlier version bc going back now, the memo. That's on ICE, it Jo longer mentions hit and run as a significant misdemeanor, whereas before it did. I also remember ICE attempting to deport a woman from Argentina claiming she shoplifted something. It turned out she forgot to pay for an item, or something like that. Maybe I'm crazy. Continue on. Haha

Got_Daca 04-18-2017 07:12 PM
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How can so many things go wrong.

1. Stay away from border areas if possible. He didnt.
2. Carry EAD at all times. He didn't. (at least have EAD picture on your phone)
3. Don't sign anything ICE forces you to. He did. (wait for a lawyer)
4. Don't cross the border illegally. He did.

IamAman 04-18-2017 07:18 PM
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I remember having this discussion on this very same website about whether or not to carry your ead. I always said you should have it because you never know when the shit will hit the fan (work raid, wrong place/wrong time, etc.) but a lot of you people said "That's stupid, what if someone robs you or you lose it?".

This is my official "I told you so!".

Got_Daca 04-18-2017 07:23 PM
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By law, we Dreamers MUST carry EAD at all times and must diplay it to immigration officials if asked to do so.

isk84life 04-18-2017 07:23 PM
Re: First Dreamer Deported under trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 611668)
How can so many things go wrong.

1. Stay away from border areas if possible. He didnt.
2. Carry EAD at all times. He didn't. (at least have EAD picture on your phone)
3. Don't sign anything ICE forces you to. He did. (wait for a lawyer)
4. Don't cross the border illegally. He did.
Not to excuse the guy but he has mental issues. This is not your typical case and the same logic used for other people should not apply to him.

Got_Daca 04-18-2017 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 611674)
Not to excuse the guy but he has mental issues. This is not your typical case and the same logic used for other people should not apply to him.
Same standards should apply to ALL Dreamers.

Swim19 04-18-2017 07:45 PM
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@NILC_org
A #DACA recipient was deported in the middle of the night without access to a lawyer. We're suing to find out what happened. #JusticeForJuan

isk84life 04-18-2017 07:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 611676)
Same standards should apply to ALL Dreamers.
Sorry but no. You are demonizing someone with mental health issues. As someone with a psychology background that actually got to study about the subject, I cannot agree with you.

Dreamer3ooo 04-18-2017 07:58 PM
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DACA has always technically been on a case by case basis. They should have reviewed his case differently given his mental handicap.

libertarian1776 04-18-2017 08:26 PM
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how does he have mental issues?

2Face 04-18-2017 08:27 PM
Re: First Dreamer Deported under trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 611673)
By law, we Dreamers MUST carry EAD at all times and must diplay it to immigration officials if asked to do so.
People do not listen to this dude. What he just said is the biggest bullshit. Dreamers do not have to carry their EADs with them "at all times." But it is definitely advisable to keep it with you when traveling! There's no harm in carrying with you "at all times" if you're paranoid but you better guard that shit with your life. I ain't going to be carrying that with me during my day to day activities.

Swim19 04-18-2017 08:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 611687)
how does he have mental issues?
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The shy Montes*was never a*poster child for the DACA program. He wasn't his*high school's valedictorian or a prominent advocate for fellow DREAMers.

He*suffered a traumatic brain injury as a child that left him with learning disabilities that meant a constant struggle to keep up in school and*everyday conversations, according to*Hincapié. Despite those challenges, he made it through*special education courses and graduated high school in 2013. He*started taking welding classes at a Southern California community college and paid for it by picking crops in California and Arizona.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ump/100583274/

libertarian1776 04-18-2017 08:33 PM
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^^^ this is true.. do not listen to Got_Daca, he is a "criminal" DREAMer and advocates deporting retarded/mentally disabled dreamers. (e.g law of nature aka social darwinism) for him only the strong undocumented people should stay.

AztecAztec 04-18-2017 09:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 611670)
I remember having this discussion on this very same website about whether or not to carry your ead. I always said you should have it because you never know when the shit will hit the fan (work raid, wrong place/wrong time, etc.) but a lot of you people said "That's stupid, what if someone robs you or you lose it?".

This is my official "I told you so!".
You are right. Here is a post on carrying your Green card. Should apply to EAD

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...n-card-me.html

My wife always carries her passport with her all the times in the US.

AztecAztec 04-18-2017 09:05 PM
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He is boned.

DHS says they cannot find the record of when he was deported the first time. He has one confirmed deportation, unlawful presence and four convictions. Without the first deportation, it will be hard to bring him back.

Feel sorry for the guy, hope they can bring him back.

Swim19 04-18-2017 10:03 PM
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Hmmm...

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In a lawsuit released Tuesday, lawyers for Juan Manuel Montes Bojorquez allege that the 23-year-old was deported from California to Mexico on February 18, despite having active protection under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program. In the lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act, lawyers claim that Montes had renewed his DACA status, a protection to undocumented immigrants who were brought to the US as children initiated under the Obama administration, in 2016, which would keep him protected until 2018.

But the Department of Homeland Security claims that it has no record of Montes' renewal, and that his status expired in 2015.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/18/politi...ion/index.html

Got_Daca 04-18-2017 10:08 PM
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For some reason you're approached by ICE, they ask "are you here legally?"

What you gonna answer?

You CAN'T say "yes". All you gonna do is answer "I have DACA."

If you don't have your EAD with you, you're going to get booked. Good luck!

If you have your EAD, there is no reason to book you.

Got_Daca 04-18-2017 10:11 PM
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Original Dream Act required SOMETHING from us. Military service or 2 year college degree. If you can't get either of this, you don't deserve DACA. Period.

Got_Daca 04-18-2017 10:15 PM
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Carrying EAD at all times is Bullshit, you say?

Prominent Immigration Attorney doesn't think so!

Lawfully present nonimmigrants (e.g. DACA, U Visa, EADs, Visitors, Students, H1Bs, etc.). Carry with you at all times your Employment Authorization Document, I-94 card, passport with entry stamp, or other proof of lawful presence (see the law above). Carry the original with you and keep a photocopy in a safe place at home, especially if you are within the 100 mile border area (more than 60% of the US population lives in this zone).

http://musingsonimmigration.blogspot...s-citizen.html

2Face 04-18-2017 10:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 611701)
For some reason you're approached by ICE, they ask "are you here legally?"

What you gonna answer?

You CAN'T say "yes". All you gonna do is answer "I have DACA."

If you don't have your EAD with you, you're going to get booked. Good luck!

If you have your EAD, there is no reason to book you.
Just when I thought your bullshit wasn't going to get worse. People don't get approached by ICE regularly like you're mentioning. Maybe you just live in some border town or are just paranoid. So basically when you just said we are required to have our EADs by law you were basically telling us your opinion. Stop scaring people on here because you've got your own issues. Nobody gives a shit. DACA is 100% safe. You need your EAD only when you travel and you need to stay out of trouble 100% of the time. Now that's the end of the story. Period.

libertarian1776 04-18-2017 10:17 PM
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yeah fuck that guy hes retarded and mentally disabled anyway... deport!!!

we dont need em!!! law of nature.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 611703)
Carrying EAD at all times is Bullshit, you say?

Prominent Immigration Attorney doesn't think so!

Lawfully present nonimmigrants (e.g. DACA, U Visa, EADs, Visitors, Students, H1Bs, etc.). Carry with you at all times your Employment Authorization Document, I-94 card, passport with entry stamp, or other proof of lawful presence (see the law above). Carry the original with you and keep a photocopy in a safe place at home, especially if you are within the 100 mile border area (more than 60% of the US population lives in this zone).

http://musingsonimmigration.blogspot...s-citizen.html

moto 04-18-2017 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 611700)
wonder why was he out of DACA since 2015. This is getting murky. But the biggest mistake I see here is crossing into Mexico.

Got_Daca 04-18-2017 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 611705)
Stop scaring people on here because you've got your own issues. Nobody gives a shit. DACA is 100% safe. You need your EAD only when you travel and you need to stay out of trouble 100% of the time. Now that's the end of the story. Period.
Stop scaring? lmao. You scared?

Don't be scared. Be smart and carry EAD with you, don't be another Juan.


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