Can we talk about how shitty Mexico is?
 

Honestly what's wrong with the Mexican people ? I was born in Baja California and I personally blame everything on the lack of education. But why? Honestly I laugh inside and get sarrow of sadness when people actually argue the education system is better in Mexico it's all lies and fake pride . No it's not !

People want to argue it's the governments fault " El govierno" but they refused to put a face on the government ! The government is people you can vote into power and elect and I'm not talking about the stupid presidency I'm talking about local elections and demanding more ! Basic shit like paved streets , runing water and electricity. Minimum wage and employee pertection laws .


Honestly blame it on an uncivilized usafiaticated mentality Of the uneducation masses.

I'm from Baja California a state that produces 23 billion dollars a year but yet no running water , no free grade school education , no quality of life where does all this money go?? I'll tell you the United States, Europe and Asia . Why? Because everyone is dived and out for themselves the the politicians make bad deals . The banks refuse to invest in local Mexican businesses or loan to Mexicans . The notion devide and conquer holds true here and every country is taking advantage of this.

Like honestly Mexico still thinks like a colony and not a great independent nation .

Get this Mexico City is in the depts of a huge water crisis where the working class must recive their water from trucks that make a profit because there is no infrastructure for water pipes or water quality . Yet the Mexican president and its people rather spend 10 billion dollars and a brand new state of the art modern international airport ? Um what logic is that??

At some point we have to acknowledge and realize our Home Counties are uncivilized.

I blame the people who don't have the education or Intelligence to want more !

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I once heard that the problem of MX is that it's full of mexicans, "el problema de MX is que está lleno de mexicanos".

IMO the problem is rooted all the way from the Conquista, the mindset of the conquistadores was different than the pilgrims' who settled in the 13 colonies. The conquistadores, whom were mostly thugs, ransacked Nueva España while pilgrims who settled in the 13 colonies wanted religious freedom. That thug mindset evolved into corruption and superiority over natives.

Also, not to idolize any race but mental capacity and the ability for critical thinking also plays a role. Don't ask me why, chances are I have no idea what I'm talking about.

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There's free education for Mexican citizens, from grade school to public universities but the primary education is just not that good and corrupt as fuck. For example, basic school supplies there and uniforms are not free and can cost poor families a fortune just to purchase. The students there do not perform well in standardized tests and Mexico invests less than 5% of the GDP in education.

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Education? Mexico produces more engineers than Canada, Germany, & Brazil. The universities in Mexico are one of the best of Latin America like UNAM & Tecnologico the Monterrey and Latinos from other countries envy us for that advantage. The only difference is is that the people there aren't as motivated to their studies as let's say the Asians.

The government is corrupt as fuck especially the PRI party. It has the most power in the elections and it is often referred to as the "perfect dictatorship". It's a common practice to sell votes in that country and 90% of the population believes their vote doesn't matter because they believe that the elections are rigged or the candidates are the same corrupt politicians.

As for White countries, well they have dominated the world in the last couple centuries. When Great Britain colonized areas like USA, Canada, Australia, etc. they also brought their high quality of life with them to those countries. But not all White countries are paradise. In fact, there are a lot of poor countries with a predominately Caucasian population like Ukraine, Serbia, Moldova, Argentina, Russia, Albania, etc. And, there are some non-White countries that can be considered First World nations like Japan, Singapore, South Korea, etc.

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A few more engineers and 2 top universities does not make a country great stop making an argument where there is non. I'm tired of this phony fake pride about Mexico what's there to be proud of??

The fact of the matter is mexico reminds uncivilized and the people love it that way .

You did exactly what I'm talking about such a blatant, ambiguous, no responsibility comment the government is corrupt! I say who!!???? Who's the government give me names!!! And vote those people out of office .

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I'm not proud of Mexico, why would I be proud of being something if I never accomplished it? I was just merely trying to create a counter argument. I never said it was great, idiot, I just said their education prevails most in Latin America and I've heard many Peruvians, Argentinas, etc. who wish they were from Mexico due to the educational opportunities it offers and it's not just two universities.

Yes, Mexico is a struggling developing country with so much potential that is hindered by the corrupt PRI party and its citizens (including the ones that abandon it). But, I'd much rather prefer to live in compared to other Latin American countries excluding Uruguay, Chile and maybe Costa Rica. So, count your blessings and be glad you're not Salvadoran or even Ukranian (a shitty "White" country).

You can try and talk shit about Mexico and their people but that's just generalizing and you have a history of doing this based on your previous posts like these ones;
http://dreamact.info/forum/showpost....03&postcount=2
http://dreamact.info/forum/showpost....2&postcount=13
http://dreamact.info/forum/showpost....3&postcount=14
http://dreamact.info/forum/showpost....0&postcount=25
http://dreamact.info/forum/showpost....8&postcount=12
I can say that all Mexicans are narco corrido listening rancheros who are uncivilized based on my perception of Sinaloa or I can say they are all socialist uncivilized Indio Mayans based on my perception of Chiapas. But that's not that truth, Mexico is a large country filled with different types of cultures. For instance, Monterrey resembles an average Texas city and I know many of my relatives back in Guadalajara who live better than me and run huge businesses. In the event that you do get deported, try not to act this pretentious because in the end you're a citizen of that nation and if you're so ashamed of it, then GTFO and do some thing about it. Also, I guarantee you there are plenty of people who are more educated and successful than you in this "uncivilized third world shithole".

And, the truth is the PRI party controls most of Mexico's elections and the only thing that can change is a full blown revolution but not one that will result in communism because that will just make things x10,000 times worse. The PRI is known for having an 80-year streak of electoral wins in that country and they are basically the top dogs in that country hence the name as a "perfect dictatorship", they can't just "vote these people out" because the PRI controls the elections brah and they're known for rigging elections / selling votes.

You seem ignorant about this topic, therefore, I recommend you to not talk about it and advise the citizens there to "vote them outz of the offiz u guys have a democracy". But, in a way, yes the people do have a blame for letting such a political party take over their country. But ever heard of the Tlatelolco massacre, the fishy elections from 1988, the crisis from 1994? I suggest you read about them to learn about how authentic democracy really is Mexico and how they have murdered protesters, rigged elections, etc. to win elections.

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Woah! Did I hurt your feelings? You mad bro? Again stop generalizing silly examples . I understand your the Mother Teresa of this forum but don't blindly discredit my very factual argument and point of view over some silly political correct point of view .

Everyone vents its what I did and I have plenty of knowledge on the history of Mexico and it's political infrastructure.

The facts remain Mexico owns the largest concrete company in the world yet can't even pave simple streets .

We either eignore the problem and move on or engage in real conversation that opens the doors to critical thinking.

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That's a creative way of undermining your argument once again. But, it appears that you failed to read my post correctly and called me out on "generalizations" when I proved that you had a history of doing so before and I literally just created some generalizations to point out how similar they were from the previous posts that you made like calling Cubans "Trump voting 'back stavers' (whatever that means)", calling Indians "barbarians who don't respect women and think they're above everyone", etc.

So, stop with the hypocrisy. I know you might think I'm a politically correct "Mother Theresa" based on your blatant post but generalizations don't really help an argument and no I'm not discrediting your data. I agree with the lack of infrastructure and corruption but blaming on its entire population of 100 million citizens solely and telling them to "vote for someone else bro" is absurd. Are you aware that you and I and the rest of the migrants who left Mexico are part of the problem too? it's creating a brain drain in that country.

And, clearly, you do not know much about Mexico if you are unaware about PRI's total dominance of that nation's politics. Now, I know you might think voters can just vote them out but guess what? It doesn't work that way. It's a corrupt nation with a history of rigged elections that requires a revolution to solve its problems.

Discussing the issues on a DREAMer forum isn't going to change anything. If you're serious about altering the state of that country, then go there and emulate Emiliano Zapata's revolutionary tactics (excluding the socialist part). You're not opening doors to critical thinking if you believe that the citizens there are all uncivilized uneducated people that love their quality of life and it seems that your statement was the worst case of damage control I've ever seen.

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Technically speaking the MX state does not own shit. Cemex is a publicly traded company. As to why MX is still a 3rd world country, also dubbed a shit hole, there a multiple circumstances and factors to consider.


Just keep in mind not everyone in MX is fucked up and unhappy.

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I'm from a small town , election time you always have to vote for PRI or you gonna suffer the consequences, like no water for your fields, no cheap fertilizer, no help whatsoever, people have families that depend on that or like people we knew that worked in Volkswagen samething you dont vote for pri you get fired. They are not going to risk it for another candidate.

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I've been living in Mexico for 6 years now. I find it waaaay better than living with DACA status. I go to the US a few times a year because I can. I can vote. I can get a work visa to many different countries, even the US.

I should probably go visit Canada just to tell you guys what it's like.

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Aren't you that DREAMer that self-deported before reaching 18 years of age? What city do you live in Mexico, bro and what schools/degrees are a gateway to attaining a work permit on a different country? I personally know one Mexican from UNAM who was an engineer who was able to move to England. Also, is it true that all the citizens there are uncivilized and uneducated who like their ways of living like many people think?

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Mexicans with a degree, after Canadians, have the easiest time getting a work visa to the USA. Any degree will do as long as you can get a job offer.

**Edit:** Correction, this is a bit misleading, you do need your degree to be somewhat related to a whitelist of professions available for the visa. Here is more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TN_status

For Europe or Canada, a degree is not really that necessary as long as the job is considered to be a skilled occupation.

I am a dropout and I am freelance software developers for US clients (I sometimes go to the US to meet them face to face).

I currently live in Guadalajara but I am going to move to Mexico City, specifically either the Condesa or Polanco neighborhoods. Mexico City is probably your best bet if you don't want to experience that strong of a culture shock. The Condesa neighborhood is filled with young Europeans so if diversity is something you want, you can go live there. It might be annoying if you dislike pretentious hipsters walking their expensive as fuck dogs.

Polanco is a bit more upscale.

AirBnB has decent guides of what to do in those neighborhoods:

https://www.airbnb.com/locations/mexico-city/polanco
https://www.airbnb.com/locations/mexico-city/condesa

However, if you don't have a decent salary to live in a decent neighborhood, Mexico City can suck. Decent being at least $1500 USD a month.

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Interesting stuff, mate. I'm an 18-year-old who might have acquired the 3 year ban, I'm thinking of returning if DACA is repealed based on the lawsuit. Thank god, I'm Chilango haha but I'm from Villa Coapa which is poor and filled with daily robbings.

Are Monterrey or Morelia any good? And never really fathomed how easy it is for a Mexican citizen to obtain a work permit from USA because the waiting times for Mexico is so quick.

Thanks for the info, bro.

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Monterrey can be good as well I have heard (rent is much more affordable than Mexico City). Remember, there are good and bad neighborhoods in the big cities. Morelia I don't know much about, but the state where Morelia is located is a big NO. Don't go there unless you know what the fuck you are doing.

And yes, getting a work visa if your profession is on the NAFTA professions list is literally applying and then taking your job offer letter and your degree to the consulate for the visa. Then just wait a couple of weeks for the visa to be given to you. It's indefinitely renewable (in theory) and there are no requirements such as requiring the company to attempt to hire an American first.

The difference between Canadians and Mexicans is that Canadians don't need the visa, they just need to show up at the border and they are given work authorization on the spot if they meet the other requirements (valid profession and degree).

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I assume that obtaining a work visa from Mexico for us DREAMers if you have a history of illegal presence will be quite a challenge though and it will be backlogged if more and more people apply but I think it might change with the Raise Act. Yes, I'm aware of Michocan's narco problem just like Sinaloa & Durango.

Will Mexicans look at you different if you were raised in the USA? It seems as if a lot of them are machistas and nationalists but not all of them. But, I also heard that you cannot flex money and expensive assets like you do in America. Is Puebla and southern Mexico any good too?

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There is no limit for that work visa so there is no backlog. As long as you don't have a ban, the illegal presence will not matter.

You might get teased a bit for your american accent but that's about it.

Southeast mexico (the peninsula) is one of the safest places in North America. I am not familiar with Puebla.

Look, I recommend that you only try Guadalajara, Monterrey, or Mexico City before considering other cities. Just so that you get eased into the culture a bit.

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Looks like I have to wait 3 years them, fuck. Oh well, that's about the same time I can obtain a degree. Thanks for the information, bro, much success in your journey of obtaining a work permit in the states or Canada. You did something at an age that most DREAMers won't think twice of doing and succeeded.

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I plan on staying in Mexico for a while. A lawyer has already told me I have a strong case for a work visa in the US, but I decided to stay put for now.

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Argentina is a white country. Are you telling me it's not shitty?

Look at Mexico. What race are the top political and most educated? White Mexicans. Who are the poorest and non educated the brown brown people of Mexico.

Seriously stop acting like there aren't white people in Mexico. All the political positions are run by white people in Latin America for the exemption of Bolivia and Peru.

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There are poor White uneducated Mexicans that typically reside Northern Mexican states like Sonora and Sinaloa that associate with the ranchero/corrido culture. In fact, I would say an average "brown" Chilango or person from Puebla is more educated than them but the vast majority of Europeans in Mexico are high class citizens.

Yup, not only is Argentina poor and White but countries like Moldova, Serbia, East Russia, Macedonia, Ukraine, Albania, etc. The list goes on.

Re: Can we talk about how shitty Mexico and why white country's are not?
 

people actually responding to this troll bait, lol.

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Well mods don't do anything when it comes serious posts that involves racism.

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Mods mostly focus on low level stuff like defending the massive fuck up that is hillary clinton.

Lets not forget that ZUCK the CUCK wants to run 2020 using the campaign advisor for LOSER hillary clinton. let that sink in. He wants to win, using guaranteed fail tactics.

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Your making valid and factual points and I agree with them and the facts . Now in contrast everyone has a fondamental right to frustration and a right to evolved in ones understating to the reasons why things are the way they are . But once you get there you can change things and it takes a special caliber of people to engage in change . That is the basis for my whole argument!

Many nations have had problems look at china and Ireland both poor countries who rose to dominate wealth . It has to do with the people and we need to open our minds to that uunderstanding period . I love my Tia and grama too and it hurts me to see them in a 2 world country .

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Hahahaha 🤣

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Funny or not, that guy did provide some good advice lol

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He sure did I remember reading Eddy's post from a couple years back . Glad his doing well .

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Race is a myth BeeHive and your right that's just what we need cencership and no freedom of speech .

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Well at least write your thread title correctly. There are whites in mexico.