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JayR9 10-26-2017 11:08 PM

Stolen EAD: To Replace or Not
 
Hello All,

I was in SF yesterday on a business trip and while I was eating at a restaurant; the rental car window was smashed when I got back to the parking lot. The thieves popped the trunk and stole both my luggage and backpack. In my backpack was my wallet with the EAD card. Should I report the EAD card stolen? I was thinking of not even bothering to replacing the EAD since we don't know the future of DACA program. What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
Jay

libertarian1776 10-26-2017 11:19 PM

Re: Stolen EAD: To Replace or Not
 
submit a form for replacement.

my car was broken into couple weeks ago and they took my backpack with the i-821d original copy. thankfully not my EAD.

i just called my lawyer for another copy, despite not being the original.

JayR9 10-26-2017 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 649407)
submit a form for replacement.

my car was broken into couple weeks ago and they took my backpack with the i-821d original copy. thankfully not my EAD.

i just called my lawyer for another copy, despite not being the original.

Are you from SF? I hear that these car robberies are frequent thing. When I returned my car to Avis the lady told me there was 3 incidences the day before.

According to the site I have to file and pay the fee again. I'm considering waiting a few months to see where we are at first with the DA situation

libertarian1776 10-27-2017 12:02 AM

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Oakland.. yeah it happens lol

yeah i called USCIS if i can replace my i-821d but its not worth $465 filing fee. so i just contacted my lawyer for a not original replacement copy.

i got lucky they left my wallet wih my EAD in the glove box.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 649408)
Are you from SF? I hear that these car robberies are frequent thing. When I returned my car to Avis the lady told me there was 3 incidences the day before.

According to the site I have to file and pay the fee again. I'm considering waiting a few months to see where we are at first with the DA situation


VIK 10-27-2017 12:50 AM

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I have the answer for you.

When does your DACA expire?

The post office lost my EAD I had to re pay the fee and wait about 5 months. 5 Months later they terminated my DACA now I'm here worried about my future.

Swim19 10-27-2017 08:31 AM

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It depends on when your EAD expires and if you think you will need it (ie: starting a new job, renewing a driver's license).

Form VIK's experience it appears USCIS looked over his file when he requested his replacement EAD and then decided to he no longer was eligible for DACA. So there's the other question, do you have anything in your background that might cause a termination of DACA if you apply for a replacement (ie: expunged DUI)?

JayR9 10-27-2017 09:57 AM

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I expire Oct 2018, it's a good thing I still have my drivers license. My license date is tied the EAD expiration. I'm not sure if it worth it for just a year. I have a clean record.

fl_dreamer 10-27-2017 11:53 AM

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Unless you are planning on switching new jobs, I say just wait till January to see what happens. Hoepfully, you have a copy of the EAD!

Ianus 10-27-2017 10:26 PM

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I think you should replace, there is no proof of being in the country legally unless you have that.

2Face 10-27-2017 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 649621)
I think you should replace, there is no proof of being in the country legally unless you have that.

Well there is form I-821D, officially Deferred Action documents. However, you're right, that EAD is a must to have.

JayR9 10-28-2017 01:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ianus (Post 649621)
I think you should replace, there is no proof of being in the country legally unless you have that.

I'm confused, how is the EAD a proof of being here legally?

Dream becomes Reality 10-29-2017 10:28 AM

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Please also file a police report. Please protect yourself against any kind of fraud.

JayR9 10-29-2017 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 649726)
Please also file a police report. Please protect yourself against any kind of fraud.

Yep police report and insurance matters are all done. I think I'm going to forego getting a replacement for now.

2Face 10-29-2017 08:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 649639)
I'm confused, how is the EAD a proof of being here legally?

It's proof of having "lawful presence" not being here legally. The EAD shows that you're a DACA recipient because there's a special code "C33" and the EAD is a work permit. Work permits are given only to those who are lawfully present.

JayR9 10-30-2017 12:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 649779)
It's proof of having "lawful presence" not being here legally. The EAD shows that you're a DACA recipient because there's a special code "C33" and the EAD is a work permit. Work permits are given only to those who are lawfully present.

Thanks for the clarification

JayR9 10-30-2017 11:15 PM

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Looks like I'm getting a replacement card since insurance is covering the fee.

libertarian1776 10-30-2017 11:23 PM

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damn how did you explain to your insurance to cover the costs?

cause my deductible is $500 and the only thing they stole is a $200 backpack and my original i-821D.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 649949)
Looks like I'm getting a replacement card since insurance is covering the fee.


NattUhhLee 10-31-2017 10:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 649950)
damn how did you explain to your insurance to cover the costs?

cause my deductible is $500 and the only thing they stole is a $200 backpack and my original i-821D.

Most likely the cost of all his luggage and items totaled a lot more than his deductible, easy to do if you keep your comprehensive deductible under $200.
**This is why it's a good idea to pay the extra $10-15/mo and keep your deductibles low.

fl_dreamer 10-31-2017 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NattUhhLee (Post 649987)
Most likely the cost of all his luggage and items totaled a lot more than his deductible, easy to do if you keep your comprehensive deductible low.
**This is why it's a good idea to pay the extra $10-15/mo and keep your deductibles low.

Worst advise ever!

As long as you have the financial means to cover the deductible, you are okay. No need to flush down extra each month! Plenty studies and articles out there to support this.

Some of y'all need to go back to High School and take Microeconomics classes...SMH

NattUhhLee 10-31-2017 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_dreamer (Post 649989)
Worst advise ever!

As long as you have the financial means to cover the deductible, you are okay. No need to flush down extra each month! Plenty studies and articles out there to support this.

Some of y'all need to go back to High School and take Microeconomics classes...SMH

That's assuming everyone has the financial means to do so. Many of us come from immigrants families that usually "break even" regarding income and bills.
But either way when it come to comprehensive deductible, the average difference in cost between a $500 deductible and a $100 deductible is about $10-15 a month.
That's an extra $120 a year, for a $400 drop in deductible and a quick peace of mind.
I know that in many families $400 is a big difference when you get hit with it all at once.

Adding a side note, will stop this convo here as I don't want to derail this into a typical DAP argument

fl_dreamer 10-31-2017 11:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NattUhhLee (Post 649993)
That's assuming everyone has the financial means to do so. Many of us come from immigrants families that usually "break even" regarding income and bills.
But either way when it come to comprehensive deductible, the average difference in cost between a $500 deductible and a $100 deductible is about $10-15 a month.
That's an extra $120 a year, for a $400 drop in deductible and a quick peace of mind.
I know that in many families $400 is a big difference when you get hit with it all at once.

Adding a side note, will stop this convo here as I don't want to derail this into a typical DAP argument

Extra $120/year assuming you are using your insurance benefits within the first year which statistically seldom happens. An average person pays for insurance 7.8 years before using its benefits. My current client (auditee) is an Insurance client and this is straight from their Controller.

I am good with stopping the convo but your slided risk adverse approach here may end up hurting someone's pockets.

OP, seems like you made the decision to claim insurance and it seems like you can afford the deductible. Good for you! I would have done the same! Let us know how the replacement process goes!

Sorrybrah 10-31-2017 11:20 AM

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You just turned me on with your intelligence with that topic ^

libertarian1776 10-31-2017 11:22 AM

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yeah i get that but u can claim the $465 filing fee part of the total cost?

Quote:

Originally Posted by NattUhhLee (Post 649987)
Most likely the cost of all his luggage and items totaled a lot more than his deductible, easy to do if you keep your comprehensive deductible under $200.
**This is why it's a good idea to pay the extra $10-15/mo and keep your deductibles low.


fl_dreamer 10-31-2017 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sorrybrah (Post 649996)
You just turned me on with your intelligence with that topic ^

You're welcome! lol

NattUhhLee 10-31-2017 01:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_dreamer (Post 649995)
Extra $120/year assuming you are using your insurance benefits within the first year which statistically seldom happens. An average person pays for insurance 7.8 years before using its benefits. My current client (auditee) is an Insurance client and this is straight from their Controller.

I am good with stopping the convo but your slided risk adverse approach here may end up hurting someone's pockets.

OP, seems like you made the decision to claim insurance and it seems like you can afford the deductible. Good for you! I would have done the same! Let us know how the replacement process goes!

Oh no, I agree it definitely is less cost effective to carry the lower deductible in the long run. My point was just that for the average undoc family paying a slightly higher monthly premium is preferable to having the struggle and headache of paying the industry standard $500 deductible at the time of an unexpected loss. But I will admit I am regionally biased, in Baltimore, MD claims and frequent use of insurance benefits is much more prevalent. The likelihood of having to use your comprehensive coverage and thus being subject to a deductible is much higher in my clientele's neck of the woods.

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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 649997)
yeah i get that but u can claim the $465 filing fee part of the total cost?

I think this would depend on the company you have, but if you can convince them it is a personal item and that $495 is the cost. They should be able to pay you for the replacement. Most companies will cover with adequate proof of ownership and cost.

JayR9 10-31-2017 07:34 PM

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Lol great arguments but my deductible is $1k. I lost about 4k worth of stuff. They will reimburse the fee for the EAD long as I send in the receipt for the fee of the new EAD.


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