DACA deal begins to form, but details remain sticking points
 

The outline of an immigration deal is starting to take shape in Washington after months of negotiations. Yet even as lawmakers draw close to a resolution, filling in the blanks could prove insurmountable.

Key Republican senators left a White House meeting Thursday optimistic about reaching a deal to make permanent the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — which protected young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children from deportation — along with some border security and immigration reforms.


But the meeting was boycotted by one Republican who is actively negotiating with Democrats, Sen. Jeff Flake of Arizona, for not being bipartisan, and even the GOP lawmakers in the room did not all agree on how to hammer out remaining sticking points.

President Donald Trump called for a bipartisan meeting next week to follow, lawmakers said afterward, and Vice President Mike Pence personally called to invite Flake, who accepted.

Democrats, meanwhile, are keeping their options open — doubling down on bipartisan negotiations and declining opportunities to draw red lines around some of the proposals.

South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham, who was at the White House meeting, and Flake — who have been negotiating intensely with Democratic Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois and Colorado Sens. Michael Bennet, a Democrat, and Cory Gardner, a Republican — both said Thursday that the “chain migration,” or family-based migration, piece would be limited.

“We’re not going to fix it all,” Graham told radio host Hugh Hewitt on Thursday. “But the first round, there will be a down payment on breaking chain migration.”

Flake told reporters that the negotiations were settling on limiting the issue of “chain migration” to the DACA-eligible immigrants protected in the eventual deal.

But Lankford flatly rejected that approach.

http://gantdaily.com/2018/01/05/daca...icking-points/

No wonder they kicked Lankford and Tillis out lol.

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"DACA-eligible" = Older and younger dreamers who were exluded from DACA are going to get screwed again

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Don't get caught up in semantics until we know what's written down in the bill. All speculation right now.

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this maybe the ultimate screw. God damn the shit hawks are flying around. Take cover!

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Nah dude. It could mean all DACA eligible people. If they had said recipients then we'd know for sure


Ok, they do say protected, but it's all semantics at this point

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I don't think it means DACA people only. I think it means that the "DACA" deal (the word is being used loosely) will prevent chain migration for people who benefit from it which makes sense if you ask me.

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It all really depends on how everything is worded.

They can word to include only DACA beneficiaries.
They can word it to include anyone otherwise eligible for DACA (born after June 16, 1981, in US since June 15 2007, etc, etc).
They can word it to include any childhood arrival prior to a given date.

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I think C is would fair. Keep the original entry date (have to draw a line somewhere) but then allow everyone younger or older to qualify. As long as you were below a certain age and entered before a certain date, you qualify.

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The way I interpret it, family sponsorship would be prohibited for any Dreamer that gets legalized.

"chain migration" for the rest would resume.

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I think that's what it says too.

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Great, just when I was hoping to have my parents go visit their home country&family they haven't seen in 15 years...

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John Cornyn’s bitch ass

Haha yea right. As long and soon as they get a 2 year agreement on spending, they are going to screw us dreamers. Dems better not agree to anything without legislation protecting as permanently.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnCorny...40458978512896

Read the responses to that tweet. People are lighting him up hahahaha. One person is like when do we trust republicans to act in good faith? There is support for us !

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I'm OK with that.

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We will have a whole lot of federal lawsuits with the circuit courts the moment the first I-130 bounces.

Fun fact, I-130 appeal processing basically goes:
USCIS -> BIA -> Court of Appeals for your circuit of residence.

Since BIA may not strike down law as unconstitutional only way up is to take up the issue to the Circuit Court.

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What about your parents and uncles, aunts who are looking at you as the source of green card?

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It would be nice to have this privilege, but one of the main argument for DA is that children should not be responsible for our parents breaking the law. A lot of people feel strongly that our parents break the law and should not be rewarded indirectly from the bill. They are willing to forgive us but not our parents.

By just doing the math on some of these bills out there, we won't become citizen for 15 years. Once we become citizen, there is still a whole process for our parents which will probably take another 10 to 15 years. Most of our parents are 50 years or older, bythe time they get their green card, they will be in their 80s.

As to our aunts and uncles, they will have to wait until our parents to become citizen and after the process, they probably won't be alive to use their green card.

What do you think? I think this is a fair compromise personally.

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lmao goddamn. this fool really wants to bring in the whole family.

shit, might as well include cousins, nephews, nieces, my cousin twice removed.

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Don't worry, most likely nothing is going to pass so we are both screwed.

In your case, you were screwed from the beginning. In my case, I got to work in a fortune 500 company with a cushy high paying job, but in a few months I will be going back to doing shitty under the table jobs that will require me to work my ass off for barely getting minimum wage.

I am currently paying 30k in taxes each year, but soon I will not be able to (since I won't have the job anymore). My job will go to someone with an H1-B, not even an American. Somehow, this is what the Republicans and the majority of the US population wants. They would rather brings someone new from another country than letting me keep working and paying taxes.

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Huh? Do your parents have a GC now? If so, I don't know what you are bitching about. If not, you wouldn't be able to sponsor them for another 10-15 years anyway (until you become a USC) so please take several seats.

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I think limiting chain migration from Dreamers is as reasonable as it gets. Having this coupled with elimination of diversity lottery, some funding for the wall and interior enforcement would be a good compromise for both sides.

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damn dude, you sound so defeated.

seems like you time traveled to the future already and saw that nothing passed.

pretty sure you'll be fine w/ money saved up and can retire in a 3rd world country.

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I will probably stay here a few more years, save money and leave to retire in my 3rd world country. I only graduated 1.5 years ago, so I was not able to save money for more than that much time. That's what really sucks. If I had been working for 5 years since DACA first started, I would have enough money to retire.

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that's my plan B as well, i know us Dreamers will be fine one way or another bcuz thats what we do.

but i do not think it will come to that and there will be relief, my friend.

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Cheer up buddy. I don't think we will be force back into the shadow. They can't just do that to 800K young people. Stay hopeful, but cautious.

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We will be fine buddy. If anything we will get a republican bill, which it will be just an extension. I understand completely how you feel, we all feel the same way actually. I am with Lib on this one, we will get relief one way or another. Wouldn't it be sweet to get relief in two weeks? If we do, you're coming down to Uptown and buying me a shot.

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Aww poor you . Enough of the pity party already geeze!

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They can wait until we become citizens. Anything that doesn't hurt the status quo but gives us status is a good thing.

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Don't need your pity nor is there a pity party. Just reality. People here can't face it, so they are blindly optimistic.

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You must have some optimism somewhere if you keep posting and checking on news on this forum? If you’re so sure nothing is going to pass why even bother?

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Of course, I am not God, so I don't know the future. Unexpected things can happen (but they rarely do). Never in a millions years did I think DACA would be enacted, but it did. That was unbelievably amazing.

In my defense, I never said nothing will pass. I said most likely nothing will pass.

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A furious @SenatorDurbin releases documents he got today detailing WH border request and adds: "It’s outrageous that the White House would undercut months of bipartisan efforts."
- @seungminkim

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Where are the documents ?!?!

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Hahhahaha. :mrgreen: bring the whole country over.

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That's what the customs agent said

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Dems wants Dream Act which includes the aged out Dreamers unless they are talking about 2014 eDACA as well.