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hrvatica13 06-03-2008 01:43 PM

Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i...54YCwD912O0DG0

Just saw it on the news!

Here's another article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/7559487

8-bitPanda 06-03-2008 01:49 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080603/...4UE_uN1Rxh24cA


wow, so apparently she's gonna keep going

alex1234 06-03-2008 01:55 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
The Clinton campaign issued a statement:


Quote:

The AP story is incorrect. Senator Clinton will not concede the nomination this evening.

hrvatica13 06-03-2008 01:59 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alex1234 (Post 102486)
The Clinton campaign issued a statement:

Yeah I heard that too, but at least Obama has the number of pledges needed... she just needs to stop... now.

questionsihave 06-03-2008 02:18 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
Now the question is what does hillary do?

If you have read any of my post about this, i always said that he shouldn't pick hillary as vp.

But the more i think about this, the more i think he has to and will ask hillary to be vp.

Even if she doesnt bring much to the table it stops this dividing of the party and energizes the party.

Its very similar to ken/johnson

J6 06-03-2008 04:57 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
She probably thinks she can bribe/threaten/persuade the superdelegates to switch sides and choose her (retarded). This whole thing is like a Royal succession mess with the pretender to the throne not wanting to shut up. I wonder if the DNC will have to behead Clinton to keep her quiet, hehe.

alex1234 06-03-2008 05:44 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
CNN has Obama now with 2,102 delegates only 16 to go!

alex1234 06-03-2008 05:48 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
13 to go now

questionsihave 06-03-2008 05:52 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
Newsources: clinton would accept veep.

K-Man 06-03-2008 08:37 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
5:30 Pacific Time, 4 delegates to go.

alex1234 06-03-2008 09:00 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
Obama wins nomination!

Ark 06-03-2008 09:04 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
This is great news. I wonder what hope Hillary's holding on to...

alex1234 06-03-2008 09:52 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
wtf Clinton is not dropping out?

lookingforchange 06-03-2008 10:26 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
No, that woman is sick, she doesn't want to get out. But watch tommorow when the House comes out and endorses Obama. Pelosi, Emmanuel, Hoyer and the rest...

peticsu 06-03-2008 11:14 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
shes trying to strongarm the VP spot by her supporters


she is a pure politician

Gateway89 06-04-2008 02:19 AM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
this is such a good news..
cali dream act passes and obama wins democrat nomination ..
wow what a year!!

kenny1314 06-04-2008 02:24 AM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gateway89 (Post 102524)
this is such a good news..
cali dream act passes and obama wins democrat nomination ..
wow what a year!!

Cali Dream Act is not sign yet.

Swim19 06-04-2008 09:35 AM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
I was listening to Clinton's speech last night and I couldn't believe she didn't even acknowledge Obama's victory

Ianus 06-04-2008 06:57 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
Oh well,at least she is getting out of the race this Friday.Friday also appears to be the deadline for which super delegates must endorse a candidate.Immigration reform or Dream act couldn't have a better time than in the 111th Congress if the Democrats are able to win a near filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.No more procedural maneuvers by Republicans.
Quote:

Sen. Hillary Clinton will hold an event with supporters by Friday, likely ending her historic bid for the White House and ceding the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama, ABC News has learned.

Ayame 06-04-2008 07:08 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
She now needs to support obama to the fullest for the sake of the democratic party, so her followers vote for obama and not for McCain out of spite.

CIR_DREAM2009 06-04-2008 08:37 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
Oh wow, I guess I'm the lone Clintonista here. Congratulations to Sen. Obama for winning the delegate race. I fear for his ability to fight the Right Wing attack machine though: I think they'll have some doozies to use against him.

And her supporters can think for themselves and vote for whoever they think is best to lead the country. As the presumptive nominee, it is incumbent upon him to try to unify the party just like presumptive nominees of the past.

I would like to point out that Hillary did win the popular vote, just not the delegate race. The last time that happened was the Humphrey-McGovern race of 1972. I'm very proud of her accomplishments, she broke the hardest of glass ceilings with her run and prove that a woman can be taken seriously for President.

I haven't visited for a long time. Hope for the best in 2009!!!

lilbawler2001 06-04-2008 09:28 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CIR_Dream2007 (Post 102552)
Oh wow, I guess I'm the lone Clintonista here. Congratulations to Sen. Obama for winning the delegate race. I fear for his ability to fight the Right Wing attack machine though: I think they'll have some doozies to use against him.

And her supporters can think for themselves and vote for whoever they think is best to lead the country. As the presumptive nominee, it is incumbent upon him to try to unify the party just like presumptive nominees of the past.

I would like to point out that Hillary did win the popular vote, just not the delegate race. The last time that happened was the Humphrey-McGovern race of 1972. I'm very proud of her accomplishments, she broke the hardest of glass ceilings with her run and prove that a woman can be taken seriously for President.

I haven't visited for a long time. Hope for the best in 2009!!!

That is not entirely true.

Quote:

The only problem is that it's not true.

Clinton's claim to winning the popular vote count includes counting the primary results in Michigan, where Sen. Barack Obama's name was not even on the ballot. In addition, her count doesn't include some caucus states won by Obama -- Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington state -- where the popular vote was never reported. And she also includes the results from Florida, where none of the Democratic candidates campaigned.

Furthermore, even using her methodology, the low turnout over the weekend in Puerto Rico likely guarantees she will not end up winning the popular vote anyway.

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/politica...-claim-st.html

questionsihave 06-04-2008 09:29 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CIR_Dream2007 (Post 102552)
Oh wow, I guess I'm the lone Clintonista here. Congratulations to Sen. Obama for winning the delegate race. I fear for his ability to fight the Right Wing attack machine though: I think they'll have some doozies to use against him.

And her supporters can think for themselves and vote for whoever they think is best to lead the country. As the presumptive nominee, it is incumbent upon him to try to unify the party just like presumptive nominees of the past.

I would like to point out that Hillary did win the popular vote, just not the delegate race. The last time that happened was the Humphrey-McGovern race of 1972. I'm very proud of her accomplishments, she broke the hardest of glass ceilings with her run and prove that a woman can be taken seriously for President.

I haven't visited for a long time. Hope for the best in 2009!!!

I was at the point of hating clinton for the way she campaigned in these last couple of months, but I still would support the "dream ticket" and am not too critical on her anymore.

The whole popular vote thing is sort of invalid. It doesn't include like 5 caucus states that obama won. If you could count those he would also win the popular vote, but those states dont release their data.

CIR_DREAM2009 06-04-2008 10:04 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
If you count all the primaries and caucuses together (states with caucuses and primaries like TX, WA, ID and NE, you have to count the primaries since more people voted and more representative of the population), then she wins the popular vote even if you give him the uncommitted in Michigan (many of those were Edwards voters too you know). Michigan would have definitely went big for her had there been a proper contest there since its a state very similar to Pennsylvania and Ohio.

Here's RCP's vote count with almost everything taken in:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ote_count.html

He's the presumptive nominee, though, and he has to work hard to get blue collar Reagan Democrats as well as white women to be able to win in November. Obama should not underestimate McCain. His biography and maverick reputation is a potent combination.

questionsihave 06-04-2008 10:45 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CIR_Dream2007 (Post 102558)
If you count all the primaries and caucuses together (states with caucuses and primaries like TX, WA, ID and NE, you have to count the primaries since more people voted and more representative of the population), then she wins the popular vote even if you give him the uncommitted in Michigan (many of those were Edwards voters too you know). Michigan would have definitely went big for her had there been a proper contest there since its a state very similar to Pennsylvania and Ohio.

Here's RCP's vote count with almost everything taken in:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...ote_count.html

He's the presumptive nominee, though, and he has to work hard to get blue collar Reagan Democrats as well as white women to be able to win in November. Obama should not underestimate McCain. His biography and maverick reputation is a potent combination.

Actually I think Mccain is lucky there has been so much attention on Obama and not him. It wasn't until May that i heard a interview with him on ABC, only real one that i heard him do as the rep. nominee, and he sounded crazy. Eliminate budgets for doing this and that and this, but lets still continue the war.

He not really a maverick anymore, except what, climate change or other minor things. On main issues he really is not that much different from Bush. Supports War, supports immigration, tax cut economy... etc. It should be exposed more when the debates start.

J6 06-04-2008 11:16 PM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
There's over 30 ways to count the popular vote in this election. She's not the nominee. Obama won fair and square. Case closed. Let's focus on November, particularly on the Senate.

:-)

K-Man 06-05-2008 01:51 AM

Re: Obama Clinches Pledged Democratic Majority
 
I'm concerned about whether she'll potentially "blackmail" the VP spot, where she could turn away some of the democratic votes if she doesn't get offered as a VP.


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