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jaylove16 12-30-2018 12:58 PM

Graham sees potential for deal to end shutdown
 
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Sunday on CNN a compromise on border security that “might save the day in the Senate” was possible in the Senate.

“At the end of the day, there’s a deal to be had,” he said to “State of the Union” host Dana Bush, adding, “We need to start talking again.“

Graham described the outlines of a potential deal that would exchange funding for a border wall, as sought by President Donald Trump and congressional Republicans, in exchange for protections for those known as Dreamers, those undocumented immigrants who have grown up in the U.S. after being brought here as young children. Those protections have been sought by Democrats on the Hill.

"So to my Democratic friends, there will never be a deal without wall funding and many Republicans are going to offer something as an incentive to vote for wall funding that you have supported in the past,” Graham said.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...utdown-1076882

dtrt09 12-30-2018 01:02 PM

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TPS is deferred action, but by another name.
TPS= deferred action, EAD.
Daca (half-ass version of Dream Act)= deferred action, EAD.

No, they need to seriously negotiate Dream Act (no age cap), a refugee program for TPS (since the status is conditioned on the danger in the countries of origin), and legalization to gain wage parity and labor protections.

thesaintseiya 12-30-2018 01:13 PM

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no liberal media is reporting this...

eva02 12-30-2018 01:14 PM

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What if this is the democrats strategy to legalize us. Be aloof and disinterested and then go I guess we’ll add daca protections for ur 5 billion *rolls eyes* and trump cheers like a baby while everyone knows he turned down 25 billion for us lol

Foal Eagle 12-30-2018 01:17 PM

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If you check CNN youtube page the words out of Grahams mouth are for BRIDGE ACT (a ONE TIME three year work permit for DACA recipients only, not all dreamers) and extension of TPS for 5 billion dollars, NOT LEGALIZATION

jwxie518 12-30-2018 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Foal Eagle (Post 724937)
If you check CNN youtube page the words out of Grahams mouth are for BRIDGE ACT (a ONE TIME three year work permit for DACA recipients only, not all dreamers) and extension of TPS for 5 billion dollars, NOT LEGALIZATION

And it has no freakin travel. The Bridge Act is even worse than the original DACA.

soypana 12-30-2018 01:25 PM

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If their plan is to give us BRIDGE ACT then just leave DACA alone instead.. DACA is better than BRIDGE ACT.

eva02 12-30-2018 02:27 PM

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Chad Pergram
Chad Pergram
@ChadPergram
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As Graham heads to tWH today, there is some chatter..strictly between bipartisan senators..about a potential way out of the shutdown $5.7 billion for wall & a DACA fix along with some other immigration provisions. Graham has pushed a bipartiswn DACA fix for a while

dreamer__13 12-30-2018 02:39 PM

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Lol the Bridge Act. SAD!

Red neck 12-30-2018 03:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Foal Eagle (Post 724937)
If you check CNN youtube page the words out of Grahams mouth are for BRIDGE ACT (a ONE TIME three year work permit for DACA recipients only, not all dreamers) and extension of TPS for 5 billion dollars, NOT LEGALIZATION

Can you post the link

Red neck 12-30-2018 03:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 724938)
And it has no freakin travel. The Bridge Act is even worse than the original DACA.

I thought it had travel

Afridi786 12-30-2018 03:05 PM

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Please Lindsay, get a deal done. I just want to keep on working.

jwxie518 12-30-2018 03:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 724944)
I thought it had travel

https://www.congress.gov/115/bills/s...-115s128is.pdf

AFAIK, no. Not even mention of AP.

tays123 12-30-2018 03:42 PM

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Can you please post a link where he specifically says Bridge Act?

Red neck 12-30-2018 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 724946)

“has traveled outside of the United States
without authorization from the Secretary;”

I assume that’s advanced parole

Outsider626 12-30-2018 03:52 PM

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Advance Parole is pain in the ass. You will have to lie and come up with bs reason why you traveling there. Oh yeah and pay for AP more than the cost of air ticket.

Outsider626 12-30-2018 03:54 PM

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Graham claimed that a 3-year extension of work permits for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals recipients, as well as some other immigration law changes, could be paired with the wall funding to end the nine-day shutdown.

soypana 12-30-2018 04:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 724951)
Graham claimed that a 3-year extension of work permits for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals recipients, as well as some other immigration law changes, could be paired with the wall funding to end the nine-day shutdown.

Fuck that... they wanna keep using us for more deals when the 3-year extension expires. Just keep DACA alone.

Marco956 12-30-2018 04:08 PM

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BRIDGE is garbage but I'd take it in a heartbeat. At least we will have chance to survive the Trump presidency assuming he doesnt get re-elected.

isk84life 12-30-2018 04:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco956 (Post 724953)
BRIDGE is garbage but I'd take it in a heartbeat. At least we will have chance to survive Trump assuming he doesnt get re-elected.

This country is getting all the productivity from us when we are young and will just kick us out once we are old lol

frbc13 12-30-2018 04:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marco956 (Post 724953)
bridge is garbage but i'd take it in a heartbeat. At least we will have chance to survive trump assuming he doesnt get re-elected.

ditto

Afridi786 12-30-2018 04:28 PM

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I'll take anything that let's me work. I'd pay double the taxes a citizen pays for none of the benefits that citizens get.

dtrt09 12-30-2018 04:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 724954)
This country is getting all the productivity from us when we are young and will just kick us out once we are old lol

Exactly why immigrants who have been working here for 20+ years need the opportunity to apply for status as much as you. Furthemore, they have been productive longer.

Guys, stop perpetuating the non-sense that you are only worth of immigration status if you are of 'service'. That is the H1B program in which you immigrate on the premise of prospective labor.

RedBlueGreen 12-30-2018 04:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dtrt09 (Post 724957)
Exactly why immigrants who have been working here for 20+ years need the opportunity to apply for status as much as you. Furthemore, they have been productive longer.

Guys, stop perpetuating the non-sense that you are only worth of immigration status if you are of 'service'. That is the H1B program in which you immigrate on the premise of prospective labor.

The difference is that a lot of us — if not most of us — have no memories of ever living anywhere but this country. Some of us do not even speak the language of the country we come from and even the decision to come here was not our own. Returning to our “home country” would be a death sentence.

We are very clearly in a different situation than the immigrants you mentioned and the only reason we are even in the discussion to have a chance st legalization is because most Americans agree that we did did not choose this life.

JayR9 12-30-2018 04:43 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 724956)
I'll take anything that let's me work. I'd pay double the taxes a citizen pays for none of the benefits that citizens get.

gtfo taxes are already 30-40% of income. I'm not fucking working for 20-40% and none of the benefits. I rather go back to the shadows and take home cash.

frbc13 12-30-2018 04:44 PM

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@markknollee

Pres Trump didn't commit to a DACA deal on border wall funding, but he's "open-minded," Sen Graham told reporters on emerging from WH lunch with @POTUS. Graham said the pres called the idea "interesting."

He's gotta consult with his buddy Miller first.... actually he's gotta consult with Fox News first

Outsider626 12-30-2018 04:46 PM

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We need GC. No Bridge acts...

Copper 12-30-2018 04:52 PM

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Let’s stop acting like UWD and stop demanding GC. No we are not getting anything permanent, Trump isn’t going to give us anything permanent unless he gets something big in return.

I’ve said it all along, best case scenario BRIDGE act, worse case scenario NOTHING.

Afridi786 12-30-2018 05:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frbc13 (Post 724960)
@markknollee

Pres Trump didn't commit to a DACA deal on border wall funding, but he's "open-minded," Sen Graham told reporters on emerging from WH lunch with @POTUS. Graham said the pres called the idea "interesting."

He's gotta consult with his buddy Miller first.... actually he's gotta consult with Fox News first

Need Ann Coulters opinion first.

vft1008 12-30-2018 05:04 PM

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I hope this opens the door for dems to start negotiating for a permanent fix instead of band aid Bridge Act.

soypana 12-30-2018 05:08 PM

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The thing is once the BRIDGE act expires we go back to square one... they should make the BRIDGE Act renewable.

jwxie518 12-30-2018 05:22 PM

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They just need USA Act. It’s exactly what the DM and RP want. Border security without a real concrete wall.

Outsider626 12-30-2018 05:23 PM

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Bridge Act is Daca with 1 more year. No thank you!

Outsider626 12-30-2018 05:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jwxie518 (Post 724968)
They just need USA Act. It’s exactly what the DM and RP want. Border security without a real concrete wall.

The bill would create a renewable eight-year conditional permanent resident status that would allow Dreamers to earn the ability to be protected from deportation, work legally in the U.S., travel outside the country and apply to be a lawful permanent resident if they meet certain requirements.

I support USA Act.

jwxie518 12-30-2018 05:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 724949)
“has traveled outside of the United States
without authorization from the Secretary;”

I assume that’s advanced parole

Yes. Just eligibility wise. See “without” and “have”.

jwxie518 12-30-2018 05:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Red neck (Post 724949)
“has traveled outside of the United States
without authorization from the Secretary;”

I assume that’s advanced parole

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 724970)
The bill would create a renewable eight-year conditional permanent resident status that would allow Dreamers to earn the ability to be protected from deportation, work legally in the U.S., travel outside the country and apply to be a lawful permanent resident if they meet certain requirements.

I support USA Act.

It has a bunch of other stuff in it.

jaws 12-30-2018 05:34 PM

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The future for DACA recipients still remains in limbo. My message to them: keep living your life and be active. In 2019, Congress must act to give them the security they need to live up to their full potential in America. #HereToStay

Kamala Harris's twitter
IDK why it's not copying well on my phone

libertarian1776 12-30-2018 05:59 PM

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people here still trynna pick what kind of relief they gonna get? lmao y’all think ur in a buffet line?

yall mfers are gonna apply be it the bridge act or a clean dream act.

or we aint gonna apply to nothing at all!

jwxie518 12-30-2018 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 724976)
people here still trynna pick what kind of relief they gonna get? lmao y’all think ur in a buffet line?

yall mfers are gonna apply be it the bridge act or a clean dream act.

or we aint gonna apply to nothing at all!

We have no one else to go to. We are gathering and repeating ourselves but still, we can all agree one thing: the best deal we really is bridge + travel.

frbc13 12-30-2018 06:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaws (Post 724973)
The future for DACA recipients still remains in limbo. My message to them: keep living your life and be active. In 2019, Congress must act to give them the security they need to live up to their full potential in America. #HereToStay

Kamala Harris's twitter
IDK why it's not copying well on my phone

I'm living my best life


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