Democrats Agree on Plan to End Government Shutdown Without Wall Funding Representativ
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/31/u...ats-house.html

I don't know. I hope this is true and I hope the clean DREAM Act will open a door for compromise. #FixDACAWithTravel #USAAct

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This tactic may be the one that works

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I honestly think Trump and Senate GOP holding the line is the only way we might AT LEAST get a patch.

Many Dems refuse to give Trump any wins on immigration.

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Can someone post the full article please. Ran out of free reads lol

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Nothing makes me happier that these assholes powers are gone

Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., the chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, tweeted that without funding for Trump’s wall, the package is a “nonstarter.” He said it “will not be a legitimate answer to this impasse.”

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WASHINGTON — House Democrats are putting forward a proposal to reopen the federal government by severing funding for the Department of Homeland Security and the border wall from the other spending bills that enjoy bipartisan support — a gambit aimed at forcing President Trump to negotiate or shoulder the blame for a protracted shutdown.

The Democrats’ plan, to be passed on Thursday when they take control of the House, consists of six bipartisan spending bills that would fully fund agencies like the Department of Interior and the Internal Revenue Service through the end of the fiscal year. The proposal would also extend Homeland Security funding at current levels through Feb. 8, including $1.3 billion for fencing but no funding for Mr. Trump’s border wall — a provision that renders it dead on arrival in the Republican-controlled Senate.

By splitting off the Homeland Security bill, Democrats are essentially daring Mr. Trump and Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, to keep a big chunk of the government shuttered over the president’s demand for the wall.

It is far from clear what the Senate and the president will do. The measures would create a month for Mr. Trump and the Democrats to negotiate over the border impasse. Still, if the Republicans accept the Democrats’ term, Mr. Trump would lose much of his leverage in the border wall fight.

Mr. McConnell has already said he would not bring up a measure that does not have the president’s support — a point his spokesman, Don Stewart, reiterated on Monday.

“It’s simple,” Mr. Stewart said. “The Senate is not going to send something to the president that he won’t sign.”

Still, with the shutdown stretching into its 10th day and with federal workers about to miss their first paychecks on Wednesday, Democrats are gambling that Republicans will ultimately have to blink and relent on the border wall.

Representative Nancy Pelosi, the California Democrat and incoming speaker of the House, has continued to insist that Democrats will not cave on the issue of wall funding.

“He’s not going to get a wall,” she said in a recent interview. “But he has to recognize, we are the first branch, Article 1, the legislative branch, and we’re here not as a rubber stamp to the executive branch but are coequal to him.”

Neither side appears ready to budge.

On Monday, Mr. Trump again emphasized that the border wall was integral to national security, calling the southern border an “open wound.”

“I campaigned on Border Security, which you cannot have without a strong and powerful Wall,” Mr. Trump wrote. “Our Southern Border has long been an ‘Open Wound,’ where drugs, criminals (including human traffickers) and illegals would pour into our Country.”

And Representative Mark Meadows, Republican of North Carolina and chairman of the House Freedom Caucus, blasted the proposal in a tweet. “Nancy Pelosi’s newest funding proposal doesn’t represent any serious attempt to secure our border or find a compromise,” Mr. Meadows wrote on Twitter. “A $1.3 billion Democrat wish list that includes zero money for a border barrier is a non-starter and will not be a legitimate answer to this impasse.”

By passing only a short-term funding extension for the Homeland Security Department, Democrats would effectively prolong the divisive debate over the wall — and potentially open a path for progressives to push for a broader immigration overhaul.

That could complicate the early days of Ms. Pelosi’s leadership, but Democrats say they hope their plan will draw a sharp contrast between them and Mr. Trump, by projecting an image of a responsible party trying to govern in a capital ruled by a president who thrives on unpredictability.

“I think it will suck some oxygen out of the room — that’s obviously what’s happening here,” Representative Tim Ryan, Democrat of Ohio, said in an interview Monday. “We’ve got to really learn how to play jujitsu with the president and figure out how to take the wall issue and show the American people that we are the modern party who will actually secure the border and also be for a compassionate immigration system that recognizes the benefits of immigration and diversity.”

In the Senate, lawmakers of both parties have been pushing for Congress to play a deeper role in negotiations with the president.

“Democrats and Republicans have worked together toward that end before, it’s going to take us working together to get it done,” Alabama Senator Richard Shelby, chairman of the Appropriations Committee, said Sunday on the CBS program “Face the Nation.” “And that’s what I want to do as chairman of the Appropriations Committee — to reach out to the Democrats, get the president on board, get the Democrats on board, and let’s move on and quit fighting and quit blaming each other.”

Senator Richard Blumenthal, Democrat of Connecticut, echoed the sentiment.

“I think Congress needs to take a more proactive and aggressive role in framing a compromise,” he said in an interview. “Frankly, there’s no leadership forthcoming from the president. Just buzzwords and slogans.”

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So the Democrats want to dare Trump over the wall so most like Trump will dare the Dems to vote againts the wall and a DACA fix.

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If you're talking about the bridge act, it's not a daca fix. It's the same as saying we're not going to fund the government, we're going to push the issue until February / March.

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I call it a temporary fix considering the fact that Trump can still end it even if the Supreme Court disagrees or decided to not take up the case. Like or not DACA is dead by next year and the more time passed by the less of a solution we will get.

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Should be an interesting next 6 months.

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same shit, different toilet.

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Nothing will pass. No fix for DACA soon.


Fate, prove me wrong.

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Lmfao I get the impression like he wants to cave. Why do you say this shit now when you are trying to get money from congress. He is such a fucking moron. God man . . . can't believe he got elected.


@Chadpergram

Trump tweet: MEXICO IS PAYING FOR THE WALL through the many billions of dollars a year that the U.S.A. is saving through the new Trade Deal, the USMCA, that will replace the horrendous NAFTA Trade Deal, which has so badly hurt our Country. Mexico & Canada will also thrive..

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Translation: House will pass clean dream act just to have it fail at the senate thus showing a clear contrast between parties. lmao! No relief in 2019.

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Why blame the democrats though. They tried a shutdown and failed when the GOP put chip kids against us... now they know what kinda of morons their dealing with in the gop and trump

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This is good because it will force career politicians - Dem and Rep - to deal with DHS and immigration reform on their own merits.

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Federal employees union sues government over lack of pay - CNNPolitics
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/31/polit...ent/index.html

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

What a disaster this administration is for everyone. The need for these workers does not disappear just because useless politicians have a tantrum.

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I'm glad they did it TBH. It's a clear sign that government employees don't support a shut down in favor of a wall.

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Of course they don't. What employee wants to be forced to work without compensation and have their families' holiday ruined??

What jackasses.

Btw, all ICE and CBP agents are union.