Senate parliamentarian pushes Democrats for more details on immigration plan
 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...migration-plan

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The Senate referee who will decide if a $3.5 trillion spending plan can include long-stalled immigration reform is pushing Democrats for more details on their plan, as they weigh whether or not to give it the green light.

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the No. 2 Senate Democrat and Judiciary Committee chairman, said Monday that Democratic staffers will present parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough with new information this week, after they initially briefed her Friday on their reasoning for including immigration reform in the spending bill.

"She still has to make the decision. She asked for additional information, which we're presenting this week," Durbin said, adding that it would be related to the "legal theories."

"We feel very strong about that position and we hope it is persuasive, but ultimately it is her decision," Durbin continued.

Senate Democrats want to include a plan that would give 8 million green cards to four groups: Dreamers, temporary protected status (TPS) holders, agricultural and essential workers. If an immigrant is granted legal permanent resident status that paves the way for them to eventually apply for citizenship, if they can meet other qualifications.

Because Democrats are using reconciliation to try to pass the $3.5 trillion spending plan without GOP votes, the bill has to comply with arcane rules that govern what can be included. The most well-known requirement is that the immigration plan has an impact on federal spending and revenues and that its impact isn’t “merely incidental” to its non-budgetary goals.

Durbin said that Democratic staffers felt "good about" their presentation.

"I hope they are right," he said.

The spending bill represents the best shot for Democrats to get immigration reform to Biden's desk after years of setbacks. Durbin has also been leading a bipartisan group to try to come up with a bill that could get 60 votes, the amount needed to defeat a filibuster, but those have yielded little success.

If MacDonough says that it doesn't comply with the budget rules, the immigration plan will either have to be stripped out or Democrats will need to muster 60 votes to keep it in.

Republican staffers also made their pitch to MacDonough on Friday about why the immigration plan shouldn't be included.

"My staff is very much involved in it. ...We're at the table," Sen. Chuck Grassley (Iowa), the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee, said on Monday, adding that there were "ongoing discussions."

Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) has set a self-imposed deadline of Wednesday for Senate committees to be done drafting their parts of the bill.

But Durbin indicated that the Judiciary Committee could miss that deadline because they won't have a final draft of their piece of the spending package until they get a decision by the parliamentarian on the immigration plan.

"The language coming out of our Judiciary Committee is being vetted through the parliamentarian's office, so we are not prepared to do any final draft until we get that work done," he said.

Re: Senate parliamentarian pushes Democrats for more details on immigration plan
 

Say no and get fired Liz

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Lol please. That would take the Democrats to have some balls

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Knowing Chucky he will let this one slip for sure 100%…He is known to do this time and again. Expect an announcement shortly saying, “We look forward to pursuing separate legislation to address our beloved Dreamers..” lmfao GC for Summer 2022 surely!

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Nobody is going to fire her if she says no. Let's hope it's a:

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Re: Senate parliamentarian pushes Democrats for more details on immigration plan
 

i will be praying to Allah this week.

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Not worried about parliamentarian so much. She can be overruled. The challenges will be Manchin and Sinema.

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Dems suggested many times that her decision will be respected. I really don't see them overruling her in any scenario

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I wonder if Kamala has a plan to something about it or is even aware that this is happening

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#FireDatAss

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I will be praying Arceus.

Re: Senate parliamentarian pushes Democrats for more details on immigration plan
 

pray to mu ha med.

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I mean that’s what you’re suppose to say before they make the decision. You say fuck them when they make the wrong decision.

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"she said yes"

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If she isn’t overruled in such scenario, then well that speaks volumes about Dem leadership….

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Lmfaoooo yeah.

I don’t know what the big deal is about overruling her. It’s not fraudulent to do so and yes legalizing a shit loaf of people at a certain rate has a major fiscal impact. Shit isn’t rocket science.

Let’s not make any excuses for not overruling her. Unacceptable.

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That's what she said lol

Anyone else thinks that's a good sign. I mean it looks like she's gonna be taking a well thought out informed decision.

Re: Senate parliamentarian pushes Democrats for more details on immigration plan
 

It's not like Liz haven't had months to prep her decision ��

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It’s short-sighted and wears down on our institutions to overrule her. Imagine Republicans limiting or pushing immigration enforcement through reconciliation.

It’s also doesn’t make sense. We’re only having a discussion about potential legalization because of the parliamentarian. She ruled that two reconciliation bills are allowed this year (the first was tied up with COVID relief). Why not ignore that ruling and just go with one?

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She's a down ass bitch

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Adverse parliamentarian decision is no excuse. Republicans don’t need to wait on Democrats to break Senate traditions for them to get drastic and creative in pushing for enforcement provisions in different ways. Remember Trump and funding for the wall? Since when do Republicans honor traditions? Remember Graham and ACB? Fuck that man. You can’t be afraid of these fuckers. There is just no defending Dems in not overruling her if she says no. No excuse whatsoever. This one step anyway. Manchin and Sinema still need to be on board. If nothing happens, let it be because of those two—not because of the parliamentarian’s decision which can just be overruled. It’s legal to do so. If GOP doesn’t like it, fuck them. They do shit we don’t like all the time. Cry me a river GOP. Like I said, shit isn’t rocket science. It’s not a far fetched idea to argue that legalizing 8 million people at $1500 a pop will have a great fiscal impact.

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Get real. What was the last time republicans cared about the rules? From Supreme Court nomination to tax bill to immigration policies... they simply do not give a shit and do what is needed to push their agenda.

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^Exactly, I don't like Republican but I respect the length they go to get what their constituents want. R's win even when they are in the minority just by block everything D want to do. It would be nice to be on the winning team for once. D need to work together and grow a pair. If you can't do shit in the majority and can't block shit in the minority then it's kind of a useless party.

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Friend or foe? You decide.

Elizabeth MacDonough
Parliamentarian of the United States Senate
Incumbent Since: 2012
Appointer: Senate Majority Leader
Term Length: Serves at the pleasure of the Majority Leader
Yearly Salary: $172,500


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She was an Immigration attorney at one point so there's that

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what wears down our institution is creating a god damn unelected "parliamentarian" position overruling the will of the people in the first place. Your realize that's why the position was created right? You think the framers wrote that post in?

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That's not even accurate.

The parliamentarian was created because someone has to interpret the rules that the Senate themselves created. Yes, the Senate creates their own rules, just like any other institution, just like your school and place of employment has internal rules.

Listen, I'm as upset as anyone regarding her opinion, but the forum is misdirecting their energy. The immigration provision in the reconciliation bill was against the rules, fine, then change the rules. Get rid of the filibuster.

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I think her arguments went beyond the scope of what as an unelected Parliamentarian should be considering.

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Bullshit. I can think of a million ways from Sunday how immigration has a budgetary impact. What, you think this is the first time the parliamentarian rules on an immigration issue?

Good luck getting rid of the filibuster when you don't even have the stones to get rid of an unelected official.

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Should be all the excuse the dems need to fire her ass.

"Bitch xx politicized a budgetary decision and clearly couldn't separate herself from conflicts of as an immigration prosecutor."

Bam, wam, thank you mam, you've been tossed under the bus. That's how Repugnicunts get shit done.