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ralsingh 04-08-2022 09:33 AM

Senators to restart bipartisan immigration reform talks
 
(Maybe!)
Article from The Hill ----

A bipartisan group of senators want to start formally convening meetings to try to restart immigration reform efforts after the Senate returns to Washington, D.C., from an April break.

A bipartisan immigration deal appears to be congressional Democrats’ best hope of making good on their pledge to reform immigration, after Democrats’ attempts to go it alone as part of a sweeping bill unraveled last year. They would face a significant uphill climb getting such a reform deal heading into the November election, where Republicans plan to make the issue a key line of attack.

But Sens. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) told The Hill that they want to bring together a group of senators interested in trying to revive immigration discussions — a perennial policy white whale for Congress — after a two-week recess.

“Yes … we want to sit at a table and ask members who have immigration, bipartisan immigration bills, to come and propose those bills to us and see if we can build a 60-vote plus margin for a group of bills. It may not be possible, but I think it is,” Durbin said when asked about holding meetings after the recess.

Tillis, asked by The Hill about the talks, added that after the recess he wanted to “start some working groups leading up to whenever we can have a [committee] mark up.”

Tillis and Durbin have had nascent discussions amongst themselves, though much of Durbin’s focus in recent weeks has been on getting Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson confirmed to the Supreme Court. Durbin has also previously said that his staff was working with the staff of Sen. John Cornyn’s (R-Texas) — though the Texas Republican said Thursday that he hadn’t heard about that.

Durbin confirmed to The Hill that meetings after the break would be the first time they’ve formally met and sat down with their colleagues to try to start sketching out a possible path forward. In addition to Tillis, Durbin noted that he had mentioned trying to revive immigration talks “with several people” in the Senate.


The group’s effort is the latest in recent years to try to figure out how to get a deal on immigration reform that could pass both the House and Senate — efforts to do so have previously failed.

The Senate passed a bill in 2013 in a 68-32 vote that would have paired border security, overhauling immigration laws and creating a pathway to citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants if they can meet certain benchmarks.

Republicans moved further to the right on immigration under then-President Trump, who took a hard line against immigration, sparked a weeks-long partial government shutdown as part of a fight to get more funding for the U.S.-Mexico border wall, placed significant limits on the ability to seek asylum and sparked backlash from Democrats, advocates and human rights groups over its detention centers for undocumented immigrants.

Democrats also faced multiple setbacks last year after the parliamentarian warned that three immigration proposals didn’t comply with the budget rules for inclusion in a sweeping climate and social spending package that Democrats could have passed without GOP support. That package, known as Build Back Better, ultimately unraveled late last year.

Instead of trying to immediately start crafting a proposal from scratch, Durbin suggested that the group would focus on looking at bills that have already been introduced, noting that “there are a lot of bills out there.”


Tillis, meanwhile, is urging the group to “think big and then from that try to come up with bipartisan consensus.”

“The only way that we’re going to get real progress is have a four pillar discussion — so immigration reform, DACA, border security and then I think asylum reform is pretty important particularly with that’s going on with Title 42,” Tillis said.

The Biden administration’s decision to end Title 42 — a Trump-era policy that allows for the rapid expulsion of migrants at the border and blocks them from seeking asylum — comes after Biden faced pressure for months from immigration advocates and Democratic allies to end a policy that they viewed as illegal and cruel to those fleeing persecution and danger. The order from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) plans to lift Title 42 on May 23.

But the decision also sparked bipartisan backlash on Capitol Hill, potentially emerging as an early sticking point in any immigration reform discussions. A bipartisan group of senators, led by Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.), introduced a bill on Thursday to effectively tie Title 42 to the public health emergency.

thehill.com/news/senate/3262194-senators-to-restart-bipartisan-immigration-reform-talks/

bigdreamer2010 04-08-2022 09:57 AM

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It must be an election year

vft1008 04-08-2022 11:58 AM

Re: Senators to restart bipartisan immigration reform talks
 
When will the Dream Act pass?

beingoflight 04-08-2022 05:13 PM

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nothingness again, i guarantee they gonna ride on the legalization for all bullsht

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-08-2022 09:43 PM

Re: Senators to restart bipartisan immigration reform talks
 
Doesn’t hurt to be positive jeeez

IamAman 04-08-2022 11:31 PM

Re: Senators to restart bipartisan immigration reform talks
 
I don't know man, my life is so hopeless now that I will hold on to that .0001% chance that they might actually do something positive.

NK74 04-11-2022 07:27 PM

Re: Senators to restart bipartisan immigration reform talks
 
I want to believe, but I can't.

JavierHTx 04-11-2022 07:31 PM

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Green cards by Halloween

Afridi786 04-12-2022 02:50 PM

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Yeah, gotta pretend like they are trying.

hDreamer1988 04-12-2022 03:33 PM

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I am still waiting for the rollercoaster meme..

john_smith 04-13-2022 04:47 PM

Re: Senators to restart bipartisan immigration reform talks
 
Idk - I don't think I take this seriously anymore - it's always the same

hDreamer1988 04-13-2022 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Idk - I don't think I take this seriously anymore - it's always the same
The majority of us on this site don't take it seriously. It's always the same story; at the end of the day, nothing will happen.

BrokeAssDreamer 04-13-2022 09:37 PM

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We're tired man....smh

AleiaTheEnchanted 04-13-2022 09:54 PM

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Nothing new, same cycle every year

JayR9 04-13-2022 11:31 PM

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haha, yeah democrats are too weak to do shit. republicans hate us too much to let us in.

vft1008 04-13-2022 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AleiaTheEnchanted (Post 766843)
Nothing new, same cycle every year

You mean to use these words:
"Same shit, different toilet."

hDreamer1988 04-14-2022 12:58 AM

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haha, yeah democrats are too weak to do shit. republicans hate us too much to let us in.
It is not hate, republican want something Democrats are not willing to give, limits on legal immigration.

We are the bargaining chips, to get the sticker immigration controls.

JavierHTx 04-14-2022 07:44 AM

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The only way to ever pass something for us is to only have a bill for us. Not TPS. Not for the millions in the caravans. Not for any future dreamer. Unfortunately we keep getting bundled with every other immigration group.

Only pass something for people with DACA who have had it for years with a clean background.

hDreamer1988 04-14-2022 04:48 PM

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The only way to ever pass something for us is to only have a bill for us. Not TPS. Not for the millions in the caravans. Not for any future dreamer. Unfortunately we keep getting bundled with every other immigration group.

Only pass something for people with DACA who have had it for years with a clean background.
In my opinion, that is not going to happen. Dems want future democratic voters, that is one reason they support immigration. The daca population alone is not enough to make a difference in voting. The majority of Daca is from CA which is already a democratic stronghold. That is one reason why Dems are trying to get as many people legalized as possible.

Lost Generation 04-19-2022 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 766853)
In my opinion, that is not going to happen. Dems want future democratic voters, that is one reason they support immigration. The daca population alone is not enough to make a difference in voting. The majority of Daca is from CA which is already a democratic stronghold. That is one reason why Dems are trying to get as many people legalized as possible.

I used to be a pure dem voter, but not gonna lie I'm tired of the dems bs and I will likely vote republican going forward.

Lost Generation 04-19-2022 02:57 PM

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Its going to be a wake up call for the deep blue states

HamHB 04-19-2022 10:33 PM

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Nothing is going to happen

DACA for another 100 years.

cooltalker 04-21-2022 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HamHB (Post 766904)
DACA for another 100 years.

Million times better than having nothing.

DACA-IR-DA 04-22-2022 06:41 PM

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Looks very promising.

2Face 04-22-2022 09:39 PM

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We still doin this?

IamAman 04-23-2022 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost Generation (Post 766888)
I used to be a pure dem voter, but not gonna lie I'm tired of the dems bs and I will likely vote republican going forward.

I hope this is just an idle threat.

Pianoswithoutfaith 04-23-2022 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost Generation (Post 766888)
I used to be a pure dem voter, but not gonna lie I'm tired of the dems bs and I will likely vote republican going forward.

"The Demoracts are WEAK!! Im tired of them!! When I can, I am voting REPUBLICAN, yes the party actively trying to deport me, kill DACA, block any DAs is who I am SUPPORTING!! thatll show those RATS"


I swear xfd I come here for the comedy

godsavethequeen 04-23-2022 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 766919)
"The Demoracts are WEAK!! Im tired of them!! When I can, I am voting REPUBLICAN, yes the party actively trying to deport me, kill DACA, block any DAs is who I am SUPPORTING!! thatll show those RATS"


I swear xfd I come here for the comedy

I mean the person you’re replying to is already a naturalized US citizen. He’s entitled to vote for whoever he wants.

hDreamer1988 04-23-2022 06:36 PM

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I think whichever party gets the house, presidency, and 60 senate seats will do something on immigration... but whether or not we like it.. that's a different story.

Dems will have mass legalizations.

Republicans will kill chain migration, repeal daca, build a wall, change asylum laws, and most likely institute a 3-5 year renewable work permit instead. We will not be able to naturalize and will most likely be relegated to second-class citizens but we will get permanent protections ( law based on solid legal ground).

Deportation is expensive so removing us from the workforce and then paying for all of us to be removed will cost too much. We dreamers are the bargaining chips in every legal proposal. It's the GOP way of saying "See we are not racist."

Lost Generation 04-26-2022 07:32 PM

Re: Senators to restart bipartisan immigration reform talks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 766919)
"The Demoracts are WEAK!! Im tired of them!! When I can, I am voting REPUBLICAN, yes the party actively trying to deport me, kill DACA, block any DAs is who I am SUPPORTING!! thatll show those RATS"


I swear xfd I come here for the comedy

Then why are we supporting a platform that does nothing but use immigrants for votes?? Yes Repub will not likely legalize everyone but they are the most likely to legalize DACA. It literally makes financial sense to legalize DACA and you know this party is all about money and money needed to maintain their status.

IamAman 04-26-2022 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lost Generation (Post 766927)
Then why are we supporting a platform that does nothing but use immigrants for votes?? Yes Repub will not likely legalize everyone but they are the most likely to legalize DACA. It literally makes financial sense to legalize DACA and you know this party is all about money and money needed to maintain their status.

The problem is that the other party wants to actively deport us so protest votes directly hurt immigrants.

Yeah I get it, it sucks that the Democrats don't have the conviction to get what they want through any means necessary and kick the can down the road....but it REALLY sucks to have the party in place that immediately took away prosecutorial discretion. While Trump was president, I was in constant fear that I could be stopped for rolling a stop sign out in a Republican suburb and that would be the end of me. Do we really have that short of a memory of the terror he was bringing?

Remember the summer of 2019 when ICE was supposed to go round up anybody they knew of who had an expired visa or removal order? I do. I'm not proud to say it but I was avoiding any place where my address was linked to public records. One of my family member's Mexican neighbors also mysteriously were gone that week. Republicans were taking joy in terrorizing immigrant communities. Remember when they were going to jobsites, municipal courts, or even schools to arrest a parent dropping off their kid at school? I do.

You can't compare the Democrat's inaction to an all-out reign of terror by Republicans.

If some of you guys who are now citizens can't relate to that fear and can't see how your choices might hurt your former fellow Dreamers then I beg you to look in the mirror and ask yourselves whether this is the type of person you want to be now that you have the power to change things.

AleiaTheEnchanted 04-28-2022 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 766850)
You mean to use these words:
"Same shit, different toilet."

Hahaha! Suffice to say if you put it that way!

PapiChulo 04-28-2022 08:32 PM

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trade DACA legalization for keeping title 42!!!

Biden Administration should use lifting title 42 as leverage in exchange for legalization for dreamers

2MoreYears 04-28-2022 11:27 PM

Re: Senators to restart bipartisan immigration reform talks
 
This is like the 20th year in a row they restart the game of playing with my feelings. The worst is, stupid me always fall for it.

PapiChulo 04-29-2022 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears (Post 766946)
This is like the 20th year in a row they restart the game of playing with my feelings. The worst is, stupid me always fall for it.

“i got a good feeling this time, bro.”


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