Finally, a bipartisan deal to help the "Dreamers"
 

Big news:

Sen. Thom Tillis and Kyrsten Sinema have reached a deal on a framework of immigration reforms:

*Protections for 2 million Dreamers
*New resources to speed processing asylum seekers
*Fast removal of migrants who don't qualify

More details here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-within-reach/

According to Greg Sargent of WaPo, his tweet:

Advocates tell me they think 10 GOP senators are gettable for these reforms, mostly Republicans who are retiring or are willing to challenge the GOP's Trump wing.

Will Republicans support something that *actually* would bring more order to the border?

source: https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/st...C96cfh2LMsAAAA

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goo with it!!

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@ThePlumLineGS
Big news:

Sen. Thom Tillis and Kyrsten Sinema have reached a deal on a framework of immigration reforms:

*Protections for 2 million Dreamers
*New resources to speed processing asylum seekers
*Fast removal of migrants who don't qualify

A white paper outlining the framework of reforms that Tillis and Sinema have agreed to is circulating among lawmakers and advocates.

Sources describe the details to me as follows:
https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/st...zyZCR-UeBgHZhw

Advocates tell me they think 10 GOP senators are gettable for these reforms, mostly Republicans who are retiring or are willing to challenge the GOP's Trump wing.

Will Republicans support something that *actually* would bring more order to the border?

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This is a deal of a life time. Incredible last stoppage minute action from Synema and Thommy Thillis out of nowhere!

Watch UWD and Co. come all out against this in numbers. They are against any sort of deal to legalize Dreamers!! Their very existence is under threat now with looming legalization of Dreamers meaning a downturn in their donations!

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I wonder which will be harder, convince Democrats to make this compromise or to convince 10 Republicans to support this... The article doesn't mention timing, does anyone know by when something like this would have to get done?

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As always fighting the right wing noise machine is the issue. They label everything amnesty no matter what it is. They label daca amnesty.

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I want to see the full deal.. this sounds too good to be true...

I wonder if the protections include citizenship or if it's like a permanent renewable work permit. I don't see 10 GOP senators voting for a bill that gives legal status to 2M people.

Also, are there any co-sponsors to this bill?

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if it's not lame duck, it's DOA in Jim Jordan House next year. Let's just say that.

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according to this tweet, the whitepaper circulating the chambers mentions "pathway to citizenship"

https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/st...zyZCR-UeBgHZhw

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This seems more like a starting point than a passable bill. I hope for the best but the skeptic in me is too strong.

I think a year-end Daca solution has a better chance of passing with only 1 month left

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Agreed. The time is the issue here. I hope they are not thinking about spilling this into next Congress. Then, it's a non-starter.

But if next 2-3 weeks is the timeline (lol), then, as long as Democrats are open to thinning it down to DACA recipients only (a definitive number), then maybe, just maybe.

Odds, of course, are completely against it.

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this is it.

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Still wouldnt get my hopes up we go through this every year

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Is this the one? Sounds too good to be true indeed, let's wait and see.

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Dick Durbin is weighing in.

As author of the Dream Act, I applaud every good faith effort to give these deserving individuals a path to citizenship. I’ve been in touch w/ my colleagues & will carefully review their proposal.
I'm determined to do everything to help deliver a Christmas Miracle for Dreamers.

https://twitter.com/SenatorDurbin/st...CqxaHf37MsAAAA

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According to Univision, the proposal is for 6 - 7 million people including Dreamers and tps. Also pro immigrant groups plan to travel to Washington for a rally on 12/15, I wish these fakers could stay away for a change, I think rallies do more damage than good, puts spotlight on the undecided gop senators and might make back down.

https://www.univision.com/noticias/i...rma-migratoria

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6-7 million ppl?!

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All indications thus far to me are that a deal is there to be had. Even Dicky Durbin is in the midst of reviewing the details in hopes of a "Xmas miracle for Dreamers." However, again...watch out for big time immigrant organization groups to come hard against this..They are already poised to hold rallies in the coming weeks to ensure status quo continues.

Synema the unlikely hero here...her blue dog status will enrage the far lefties who are against immediate legalization of Dreamers...

Even Gaby Pacheco has posted on fb about this in a seemingly positive tone saying "We must realize that a compromise is hard...but that we are not in a position of power, and that this is America nad how things get done in this Country."

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You are right. Also, as long as extreme ends of both sides (left and right) are kept at bay, a Dreamer deal is possible and 10 GOP senators know that they can withstand the backlash from far right.

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Truly.
But this is good news - please help all dreamers. If DACA only enrolled 800,000; 2m should cover aged out Dreamers.

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They lost me at 6-7 Million. I was skeptical at 2M people but I just don't see how that can get enough votes in the current political climate.

I think both know this and are fishing to strengthen their Hispanic base in their border state.

I hope I am wrong but I feel this is more for donations than a true effort to pass. I hate politicians like that

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If they are using common sense, this includes ag and other essential workers. The economy will crash w/o them.
I just emailed Sens Murray and Cantwell, as well as Sen. Durbin. Like I said, if Reps are okay with gay marriage, legalizing marijuana, we can find votes for Dreamers.

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sorry to burst y’all bubble but this has 0 chance to pass, they are still on that bullsht of mixing us with the asylum and TPS people.

too broad. it WILL fail again.

damn we are surely fcked this time. these asylum and TPS people fkin up our sht like always.

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Dead but I wouldn’t say on arrival

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"Though negotiations are underway on possible legislation, it’s unlikely that Congress addresses reforms this term as both chambers race to prioritize preventing a government shutdown and pass defense spending with three weeks left before the end of the year."

Re: Finally, a bipartisan deal to help the "Dreamers"
 

Your life must be a failure to think like that.

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A few details from another source

-path to citizenship for 2 M Dreamers
-extends Title 42 at least 1 year; lifting subject to GAO review of migrant processing
-$25B+ for border security; pay raises for BP, regional processing centers, $ for asylum processing, expedited removal


Also:

-Dreamer must be here since 2018
-The plan is to attach this as an amendment to the omnibus

take it with a grain of salt, different sources are saying different things right now

The biggest challenge is finding 10 repub imo

https://twitter.com/ellengilmer/stat...38119066492928
https://twitter.com/ellengilmer/stat...53288488587264

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Where is the source for this? It wasn't in the tweets you linked.

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I am calling the time of death, 3:48 est on 12/05. Is it just me or every time there maybe a legit chance of any immigration dead passing, they find a way to kill it?

I thought if they stuck with Daca only, that was narrow enough to break the 30-year impasse.

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Sorry, this one was from Univision:

https://www.univision.com/noticias/i...rma-migratoria

“Sinema ha sido muy efectiva en liderar negociaciones como esta”, aseguró una. Y agregó que, de llegar a un acuerdo, el proyecto de ley de inmigración será incluido como enmienda en uno de dos proyectos de ley clave que serán debatidos este mes: una ley de defensa que autoriza al Departamento de Defensa usar el dinero que el Congreso le ha otorgado, y el paquete completo de la ley de gastos, que se conoce como ‘ómnibus’.

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News is spreading. RollCall has an article on it -https://rollcall.com/2022/12/05/senators-pitch-deal-to-protect-dreamers-boost-border-security/.

Key points:

- And it comes during the lame-duck session that advocates and lawmakers say is likely the last opportunity to pass immigration legislation...

- The agreement would legalize undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children who face uncertain futures in the U.S. amid legal challenges to the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program

- lawmakers are considering other elements that could bring them on board — including an extension to Title 42 pandemic-era border expulsions and additional detention beds

-Immigrant advocates, however, warned they would not support an agreement that banned asylum completely.

- Any agreement would likely need to be attached to an omnibus spending agreement or continuous funding resolution rather than moving as a standalone bill.

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I doubt that number is accurate. That's half of the undocumented population. But of course, we will need to see the text of the bill before confirming.

I think by the end of this, the 2 million figure may actually be much lower.

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2010 feeling all over again

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They need to shut the hell up and stay out of the talks. Most of them are US citizens and have no skin in the game.

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A deal could potentially be reached at the eleventh hour it seems. We're headed right down to the wire here on what promises to be a chaotic end to the year. I do believe this is the best opportunity in months/years to get a concrete bipartisan permanent solution for Dreamers while strengthening the southern border. And that too it has come from the most unlikely source, Blue Dog Sinema and GOP rockstar Thom Tillis. It is now that we must shun the far left radicals who have been profiting off of immigrant fear and far right crazies and strike a massive compromise.

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LOL, agreed.

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Fuck man why are they getting our hopes up again?

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They are already trying to kill the deal so their cash cows continue to feed them

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I think this is the only item we ALL agree here.

This needs to be kept low profile imo, I can see fox news radio telling people to call their congressman to oppose this bill as soon as they find out about it, and these "pro immigration" groups make nothing but noise and wake up the opposition

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Lol but when there isn't any proposal they tend to quiet??