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Hey guys,

What are your thoughts on this election? Are we doomed this time? Trump looks strong in the polls and the battleground states.

If Trump wins, is he coming after DACA again? That's what's been sitting in the back of my mind. I have been trying hard not to think of this election but reality has an ugly way to reassert itself.

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Fuck Donald Trump is what I think. And fuck Dreamers and immigrants that support Trump.

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Harris is being outworked, plain and simple. Her schedule is very light.

As for Daca, I think whoever wins will wait for the Supreme Court to take action. After that, Trump will use Daca as a bargaining chip to get more of his immigration agenda through Congress if he wins. As for Harris, I am not sure.. It seems like Immigration and legal status have been a taboo subject for all Democrats since the border issue.. No one wants to say anything in case it triggers a caravan.

As always, Hope for the Best but prepare for the worst

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Kamala Harris is poised to become the next President, and it is anticipated that the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) will be included in a border security bill, along with provisions for farm workers and other related measures. It is expected that Kamala Harris will sign this legislation, which is being proposed by Republican lawmakers.

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Do you think that there will be enough votes in Congress with the current composition of Democrats/Republicans?

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He was being sarcastic, GOP would never propose a bill like that

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At this point, we know the border is a mess, and both Democrats and Republicans want to repair it. So whether one party gets enough votes or not, it will be supported by both sides. Attaching daca, farm workers, essential workers, and so on with border security will benefit both parties.

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not really bud. Republican introduced the bill, which is currently gaining support. They will put it on the table as soon as possible once Kamala takes over the office.

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Wow, I never expected this from the GOP, do you have the bill's name? I have not heard any news about it.

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sure :)

https://duarte.house.gov/uploadedfil...l_overview.pdf

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I read it.

It felt like groundhog day, like I was reading an immigration document from 2006.

The premise of these bills are always the same. Toughen up existing laws a little bit and give amnesty to immigrants already here.

This approach has failed countless times.
It doesn't provide enough carrots to get Republicans on board.

I don't think it will go anywhere.

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If Kamala wins, DACA will stay the way it is.
If Trump wins, DACA will disappear. However, this is the only path in which Congress will take up the issue.
At this point in my life, I would much rather see Trump win to finally get a resolution on the issue than continue living 2 years at a time. I am sure younger Dreamers will disagree with me, but it is what it is.

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We will get hate for taking this position Jorge but I will gamble with you and I share your position.

Bottom line: Not worried or fear mongering about who wins.

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It required centuries and numerous unsuccessful attempts before humans were successful in flying. Therefore, don't give up hope. I concur with you, however, the difference at this moment is the time, circumstances, and workload. So, let's wait and observe what unfolds.

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To achieve a lasting solution, DACA must be addressed no matter who is in power. I completely concur with your viewpoint.

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DACA will disappear and you'll be deported to your own country. Have you been living under a rock these last 6 months? Did you not watch the Sunday Trump rally in NY? He's keeping Miller and the worst kind of people in power if he wins.

There is no way dems in Congress is giving Trump any kind of win on immigration if he's elected.

You're blind. Get your head out of your ass.

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Old farts in Congress need to stay the fuck out of new immigration legislation. 23 yrs of utter failure from their part.

The public does not support Nazi-regime like rounding of people or pushing them out to exile after living here for 20,30, or 40 yrs. I want to see legislation that is humane and reasonable that regularizes us and our families. Not hate-mongering.

Farm workers, construction workers, are not leaving or being kicked out. Trump didn't do it, and certainly Harris will not do it.

MAGA supporters are terribly misinformed and exploited by the Trump campaign. I don't think he will win.

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I think the Supreme Court is the one most likely to end DACA. The main reason the GOP wanted to end daca in the first place was to force Democrats into agreeing to their immigration demands—end chain migration, a merit-based system, and so on; Daca was just the carrot to get them to negotiate. I honestly think Dems were close to breaking during Trump's first term until the SC stepped in and saved DACA.

The Border Security and Immigration Reform Act is an old bill, from 2017. I don't think it has any merit in today's Congress.

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I concur. That's the Republican political gambit. Let the Supreme Court do the ugly work and invalidate DACA. Then, squeeze the Democrats for the maximum amount of concessions possible to completely reshape the immigration system.

What worries me is us getting caught in the quagmire from Congress. Congress would dither and no bills gets passed while DACA gets canceled. Then, our work visas expire and we start losing our jobs and livelihoods.

Also, a cynical part of me believes that the Democrats would throw us under the bus. Then, use our misery as a rallying cry for votes and fundraising purposes from all the bleeding heart liberals while providing no concrete solutions to our problems.

Also, they could decide to sacrifice us to protect Diversity visas or some other liberal bullshit like that in the immigration system and try to blame the Republicans instead.

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Right now it is a toss-up slightly in Trump's favor

JD Vance was such a great pick for VP

Obliterated Harris's chances after the VP candidates debate

Was just on Rogan obliterating any doubt about him

Extemely well spoken

I will be surprised if Harris wins, to be honest.

But Trump will be good for DACA.

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She let her momentum slip at the end.. A very relaxed schedule in the last few weeks at the election. Trump was everywhere, sometimes hitting 3 states in a single day. Embarrassing to be outworked by a man pushing 80

There is no use in panicking or worrying no matter who wins

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I hope you're right about Trump being good for us , got_daca.
I have nothing to go back to.
It's the USA or bust.

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thats true.

realistic potential scenarios:

we are probably fkked either who wins.

-SCOTUS kills DACA

Harris Administration:

makes up some bullsht bill pushing legalization for all which will be blocked by the house given how much of an idiot the speaker is and they attempt to negotiate and as always gets nowhere.

nothing gets done and we lose everything.

Trump Administration:

makes a bill SPECIFICALLY tailored around us but demands basically impossible demands for the demonrats, United We Dream steps in AGAIN and begins the legalization for all or nothing bullsht and nothing gets done AGAIN.

nothing gets done and we lose everything. and only the second coming of Jesus Christ could save us at this point.

both sides begin to blame each other as always.

crisis gets to a point were even the Mexican government and US corporations are forced to intervene.

government shutdown AGAIN because of us.

bunch of coverage from MSM showing us losing everything.

we fall into the abyss forgotten eventually.

they strike a deal without us and life goes on.

at LEAST 10k-30k casualties after all this is done hopefully less or none.

at least that court was considerate enough to let us hold on to DACA for all this time.

something in me believes that there is a slight chance that Trump Administration goes nuclear and does a full overhaul of the immigration system enacting everify nationwide and does legalization for everyone after paying taxes or a fine or something. i mean looking at it at an economic standpoint thats the only thing that makes sense. mass deport those that do not qualify. everyone wins.

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now things got even more unpredictable with this guy dropping the puertoricans trash joke followed by Biden opening his mouth, basically leveled the playing field.

despite DACA, things are not looking good for the US. im keeping up with the federal reserve and such and looks like the economy is bound to get even worse in the upcoming years. as always lets just hope for the best outcome.

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Yea, I guess Trump driving that dump truck, pretending to work at McDonald's, and jacking off and giving oral to the microphone at yesterday's event really shows how he's putting in the work.

Forget about the tremendous over capacity attendance at every Harris event.

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Don't put stock in Got_DACA. He's a loser that has gotten a lot of his "predictions" and "analysis" wrong. Reminds me of how he thought congress would ram through legalization for us via the Parlimentarian in 2021. LOL. "Ram it through" would be all that clown would post.



"America is for Americans!"
Stephen Miller, literally last week in the Trump Nazi Rally in NY. Did you all not watch?

Also, the idiots here have not learned anything these last few years. The question is not whether Trump is good for DACA.... it's whether Congress is good for DACA. Trump killing DACA will then leave a solution up to congress. Anyone who has faith in congress, who is divided now more than ever and who leaves its own federal employees and veterans shit out of luck for over a month via a government shut down like in 2018-2019, is a clown. They will not give a shit about us and just use us as election pawns.

I bet these Dremers that think Trump will be good fornus also think Mexico is for real paying for the wall if he's elected again. For real this this time!

This is not our first rodeo. You all need to get your head out of your ass. The status quo is better than DACA being rescinded.

DACA was never a permanent solution. It was a means for you to find your own solution and a plan B easier.

If you are waiting for a politician for find your solution (good or bad), you're pretty pathetic. You've had since 2012.

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^^^ all these words and nothing of value

Pokemon-loser

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Loser? I'm not the one who took money from a fund set up to help Dreamers that were experiencing hardship to renew their DACA and then posted about it as some kind of victory on here.

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I really hope the MAGA Dreamers are the first put on buses, whether these are going to Tijuana or to a concentration camp.

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Harris pulling ahead in IOWA of all states in one of the most consistently accurate and reputable polls. IOWA.
Even if she doesn't win the state, MAGAs are going to need more trash bags to take out all those bricks of shit they are going to passing after hearing this news.

We are all tired of the orange baboon. We're tired of MAGA.

Harris 2024!!

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I got family members who voted for trump and they were immigrants before getting their citizenship. They have that “I got my papers, so fuck everyone else” mentality

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Would be hilarious to see the MAGA Dreamers be the first one caught in the mass deportation. I already can imagine beingoflight wearing a I love Trump shirt as he cries and begs not to be deported.

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thats wild MSM consuming NPC, we are still here after 2016. nothing will happen. gr8 b8 m8 8/8

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We've had some form of status for over 10+ years now... and now even the DACA forum is divided on an election year, to a whole new level... amazing! Very representative of the country. The shift has become really drastic over the years... we were so united back then!

The fact that we are becoming so divided just shows how much more "Americanized" we all have become since getting DACA.

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The border situation during the Biden admin is ruining it for all of us with the record number of border crossings during the administration and cities like NYC spending $$ Billions to give free hotels, flights, etc for immigrants, and that is just 1 city. Our parents and other immigrants worked hard to get where they are, the current immigration is worse than it's ever been and nothing is getting done for those who have been here for 10+ years.

So to be fair to those family members, I don't think that most are having that mentality at all.

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thats because of MSM running rampant with an agenda after Trump victory in 2016, NPCs are believing everything MSM is spitting out since they lack the brain matter.

Trump SHOWED support for us during his term but since it goes against the narrative MSM never spoke about it and only sabotaged the potential deal that we got, Biden didnt do shht in regards of DACA and only made things worse by leaving the border run unchecked forcing states to take action on their own.

we are back at square one either who wins and again things could get worse under either since BOTH WILL get blocked in either the house, SCOTUS or congress with ANY immigration bill.

either way looks like a major economic collapse is on the horizon, doubt we get any attention anymore.

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TrUmP ShOweD sUpPoRT for uS!!!

The support:
https://www.youtube.com/live/4dL8QO0...PlInxJ-ES9EVC7

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show the tweets NPC.

you and i KNOW the only way for DACA to get fixed is by killing it and making a compromise, use your brain and stop consuming bullsht MSM news.

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You're going to be deported in Tijuana selling chicles and De La Rosa mazapanes roadside and still saying Trump is supporting you and will find a way to bring you back and give you legalization. MAGA clown.

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thanks for proving me right, nothing to counter argue just feelings, no facts or anything.

regardless who wins we are fkkked.