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2MoreYears 01-14-2025 01:13 PM

Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
https://migrantinsider.com/p/first-l...ate-amendments

https://x.com/alicianieves__/status/1879006459385557242

PapiChulo 01-14-2025 02:01 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Lies.

beingoflight 01-14-2025 04:05 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
inb4 United We Dream begins with the "Legalization for All or nothing" bullsht.

that said, whoever introduced the amendment completely destroyed it by pretty much allowing ANYBODY that came in on the last 4 years qualify. when are these demonrats going to UNDERSTAND that the fix for DACA only NEEDS to be for DACA recipients EXCLUSIVELY and NOBODY ELSE.

hDreamer1988 01-14-2025 04:45 PM

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Quote:

15. Bennet (D-CO) (1) Cancellation of removal/adjustment of status for DACA recipients to *conditional* permanent residence and (2) temporary status for certified agricultural workers
This will not make it.. GOP is going to save daca for bigger immigration changes

dtrt09 01-14-2025 05:00 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
580,000/11M people = 0.048 or .05% of undocumented would be legalized, not even all Dreamers.

It's not a serious solution.

DogJuiceMan 01-14-2025 06:21 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
We might have to take what we can get.

Copper 01-14-2025 06:48 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
This bill could be beneficial if it provides the undocumented community with a path to avoid deportation, or at least offers Dreamers the opportunity to obtain permanent residency (without citizenship).

I understand that the citizenship aspect may be a concern for Republicans, but many of us are seeking the opportunity to stay in the country, contribute to the economy, work, and travel without limitations.

Additionally, I believe that maintaining green card status could serve as a reminder to all politicians and immigrants that we must uphold good moral character to remain here.

Do I think this will happen? No, I believe that given the recent setback the Democratic party experienced, they may want to demonstrate that they are also strict on immigration. The immigrant community will most likely take the back seat to this.

Copper 01-14-2025 07:05 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Quote:

Sen Dick Durbin will seek an amendment exempting DACA-eligible people from mandatory detention under the awful Laken Riley Act.
https://x.com/GregTSargent/status/1879248758858506654

:lol: This is probably the best we are going to get in this bill. :lol:

PapiChulo 01-14-2025 08:44 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 773207)
https://x.com/GregTSargent/status/1879248758858506654

:lol: This is probably the best we are going to get in this bill. :lol:

Brother, atleast we are getting talked about. We didnt get shit the last 4 years.

beingoflight 01-15-2025 05:12 AM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 773207)
https://x.com/GregTSargent/status/1879248758858506654

:lol: This is probably the best we are going to get in this bill. :lol:

Holy fkn sht, cant they let go of the others and FIX US FIRST!!! we have been in this fkn limbo for decades. they got to STOP MIXING US with the others!!!! NOTHING will pass if they are still on that bullsht.

when DACA gets axed by SCOTUS and 0 hour hits and they still with that bullsht of mixing us with the others NOTHING will pass and we are going to be royally screwed!!! the others can go back to the life they used to have and adapt easy WE DO NOT! are Democrats braindead or something??? insane levels of stupidity in that party. glad they lost tbh.

Demise 01-15-2025 09:36 AM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 773209)
Holy fkn sht, cant they let go of the others and FIX US FIRST!!! we have been in this fkn limbo for decades. they got to STOP MIXING US with the others!!!! NOTHING will pass if they are still on that bullsht.

when DACA gets axed by SCOTUS and 0 hour hits and they still with that bullsht of mixing us with the others NOTHING will pass and we are going to be royally screwed!!! the others can go back to the life they used to have and adapt easy WE DO NOT! are Democrats braindead or something??? insane levels of stupidity in that party. glad they lost tbh.

Dude, get it through your skull that nothing will fly for those fuckers. Everything below putting up a wall, putting motion sensor turrets on said wall, digging a moat behind the wall and filling the moat with sharks is amnesty for those fuckers.

Donny backed off from going after H-1Bs solely because Elon wants a bunch of indentured servants at his companies. Even the 14th amendment is rubbing Donny the wrong way because his wife's son grew a bit too tall.

DACAers might be the most favorable out of all illegal immigrants and they will not hold their nose for you regardless.

PapiChulo 01-15-2025 02:19 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
SUMMARY & ANALYSIS: Laken Riley Act Amendments (thus far) -

Pro-Immigrant:
Democrats (D)-17
Republicans (R):-1
TOTAL-18

Pro-Enforcement:
Democrats (D)-4
Republicans (R)-27
TOTAL-31

⭐NOTE: 5 DREAMer/DACA Amendments

Summary of all 49 amendments⬇️ -

Pro-Immigrant:

(#2) Duckworth (D-IL) - Allowing certain aliens to enlist in the Armed Forces and protection from removal based on service

(#3) Duckworth (D-IL) - Allowing certain aliens with veteran status to parole to receive VA healthcare

(#4) Duckworth (D-IL) - creating new visa for aliens with veteran status to return

(#5) Duckworth (D-IL) - identifying alien as veteran status to be reflected in removal proceeding records

(#7) Blackburn (R-TN) - Complete text: “To strike the section authorizing State attorneys general to sue Federal immigration authorities for alleged violations of statutory detention and removal requirements, improperly releasing dangerous aliens, or failing to discontinue granting visas to nationals of countries unwilling to accept nationals deported by the United States.”

⭐(#15) Bennet (D-CO) - (1) Cancellation of removal/adjustment of status for DACA recipients to *conditional* permanent residence and (2) temporary status for certified agricultural workers

(#17) Murphy (D-CT) - Changes new mandatory detention of new 236(c)(1)(E)[theft] category to allow ICE to in fact give discretion for release

(#18) Murphy (D-CT) - Provides migrants taken into ICE custody under 236(c)(E) a preliminary hearing to determine whether the relevant charge, arrest, or conviction is within the scope of the relevant offense

⭐(#19) Bennet (D-CO) - provides 236(c)(1)(E)[theft] exclusion for eligible or recipients of DACA and minors (16 or younger)

(#21) Murray (D-WA) - prohibits DHS from detaining or shackling pregnant, nursing, or postpartum individuals under 236(c)(1)(E)[theft] unless they are deemed a threat to public safety or national security.

(#22) Paul (R-KY) - Entirely new addition to limit the president's ability to declare national emergencies.

(#23) Coons (D-DE) - Eliminate the AG enforcement provision (Section 3 of the act)

(#24) Coons (D-DE) - New Section 4 to say legislative intent is to not require DHS to prioritize detention of migrants arrested for minor crimes under new 236(c)(1)(E)[theft] for migrants arrested for more serious crimes.

(#25) Coons (D-DE) - New Section 2, new 236(c)(1)(E)[theft] category, will not take effect until 60 days after DHS issues certification that the U.S. government has the necessary detention capacity, transportation capacity, and personnel to implement the amendments without leading to the release of, or an inability to detain or remove, individuals who pose serious threats to public safety or are considered serious flight risks.

(#26) Coons (D-DE) - Increase legal standard for AG to sue DHS actions from “violation” to “manifestly unlawful violation”, meaning the unlawfulness is evident or apparent without the need for further investigation.

(#27) Coons (D-DE) - Tightens criteria for new Section 2, new 236(c)(1)(E)[theft] category by ensuring a person has unlawful status at the time.

(#28) King (I-ME) - Narrows criteria for new Section 2, new 236(c)(1)(E)[theft] category to individuals who have a criminal conviction for these specific offenses (no arrests)

(#29) Markey (D-MA) - Creates a grant program to provide essential services like housing, healthcare, job training, and legal support to individuals granted parole or in removal proceedings.

(#30) Hirono (D-HI) - Eliminate the AG enforcement provision (Section 3 of the act)

(#31) Hirono (D-HI) - Exclusion for aliens under 18 years of age under new Section 236(c)(1)E theft.

(#32) Hirono (D-HI) - Requires ICE to annually publish a report detailing the federal costs and private prison profits related to the implementation of Section 236(c)(1)(E).

⭐(#33) Hirono (D-HI) - provides 236(c)(1)(E)[theft] exclusion for eligible or recipients of DACA and minors (16 or younger)

(#34) Hirono (D-HI) - Detention not allowed for migrants arrested under 236(c)(1)(E)[theft] if they are a parent and they have a minor under the age of 16 years old.

⭐(#35) Durbin (D-IL) - Ensures that custody determinations under new Section 236(c)(1)(E) can’t be used to revoke DACA, and protects them from detention under certain provisions.

⭐(#36) Durbin (D-IL) - Introduces “AMERICAN DREAM AND PROMISE ACT OF 2025” - adjustment of status for DACA recipients

(#37) Coons (D-DE) - Amendment to amendment #8 to make Section 3 have no effect or amendments to Section 3.

(#40) Hickenlooper (D-CO) - Allows AG to sue DHS on behalf of state residents for alleged violations of constitutional rights.

(#41) Murphy (D-CT) - Specifying that the individual must be 14 years of age or older.

(#47) Blumenthal (D-CT) - Striking the phrase "is charged with, is arrested for" from new 236(c)(1)(E)[theft] definition to narrow the scope.

(#48) Blumenthal (D-CT) - Limits ICE arrests at “sensitive locations” like schools and hospitals, unless there are urgent circumstances or prior approval.

Pro-Enforcement:

(#1) Barrasso (R-WY) - “Build the Wall Act of 2025” to move all unobligated amounts of Coronavirus State to DHS to build wall at Mexican border

(#6) Tuberville (R-AL) - 4 "Border Safety and Security Act of 2025" - suspend all entry of aliens to “achieve operational control of the border” who are inadmissible under paragraph (6) or 2 (7) of section 212(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act 8 ( U.S.C. 1182(a)).

(#8) Ernst (R- IA) - To include crimes resulting in death or serious bodily injury to the list of offenses that, if committed by an inadmissible alien, require mandatory detention.” Would expand beyond current bill’s focus on theft crimes.

(#9) Shaheen (D-NH) - To increase the amount appropriated to disrupt criminal activity at the border.

(#10) Shaheen (D-NH) - To appropriate $1,000,000,000 for border security assets along the northern border.

(#11) Shaheen (D-NH) - To appropriate $100,000,000 for “Operation Stonegarden”

(#12) Shaheen (D-NH) - To require border security technology to be piloted, tested, and deployed along the United States borders.

(#13) Shaheen (D-NH) - To respond to increased activity along the northern border.

(#14) Coryn (R-TX) - To expand the list of criminal offenses that subject inadmissible aliens to mandatory detention to include “assault of law enforcement officer”

(#16) Cruz (R-TX) - Unlawfully present aliens may only be released from detention if no detention options exist and ALL must be continuously monitored via GPS throughout their immigration proceedings under the ATD program.

(#18) King (I-ME) - Gives exclusive discretion to the US Secretary of State to sanction non-cooperative countries that refuse or delay repatriation of nationals and (2) requires him to discontinue granting immigrant or nonimmigrant visas to citizens, etc. of that country.

(#38) Shaheen (D-NH) - Accelerates the timeline for applications to install communications equipment on certain U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) property.

(#39) Shaheen (D-NH) - Expands mandatory detention for migrants who fail to appear for hearings related to charges for any offenses that trigger 8 U.S.C. 1226(c)) mandatory detention.

(#42) Marshall (R-KS) - Creates DHS office to support victims of crimes by unlawful aliens, provides grants for "angel families," and requires annual reports on the impact of these crimes.

(#43) Marshall (R-KS) - Expands grounds for aliens convicted of sex offenses, domestic violence, stalking, child abuse, or violations of protection orders to be deemed inadmissible or deportable from the U.S.

(#44) Cortez Masto (D-NV) - Creates “Joint Operations Centers” along the southern U.S. border to enhance coordination between federal, state, local, and tribal law enforcement agencies for border security and criminal activities.

(#45) Cortez Masto (D-NV) - Requires a plan to deploy innovative technologies to improve border security and CBP operations.

(#46) Budd (R-NC) - Makes any alien convicted of, admitting to, or committing assault on a law enforcement officer deportable. Also requires DHS annual report # of aliens deported under this category.

(#49) Sullivan (R-AK) - Allocates $300 million annually for the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas Program.

PapiChulo 01-15-2025 02:52 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
"Hard to guess what will pass this early. Better prediction of which may be considered and debated. I think Durbin DACA amendment might pick up traction. Lots of co-signers. And maybe R language on harming law enforcement. Laken Riley killer alleged attacked CBP officer during arrest."

2Face 01-15-2025 03:17 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Demise (Post 773211)
Dude, get it through your skull that nothing will fly for those fuckers. Everything below putting up a wall, putting motion sensor turrets on said wall, digging a moat behind the wall and filling the moat with sharks is amnesty for those fuckers.

Donny backed off from going after H-1Bs solely because Elon wants a bunch of indentured servants at his companies. Even the 14th amendment is rubbing Donny the wrong way because his wife's son grew a bit too tall.

DACAers might be the most favorable out of all illegal immigrants and they will not hold their nose for you regardless.

Trumpy was never going to go after H1Bs in the first place. It is not his fault his supporters misunderstood him. His idea of “mass deportation” is very much different from what they think. They are under the impression that this will be a removal of ALL immigrants and that’s why they are all fuming. He is a master Trumpy. He said he will remove “Obama’s illegal amnesties” on “Day 1” and that was 8 years ago and here we are in 2nd term and he’s saying he’d like to “do something for Dreamers.” Funny as hell.

PapiChulo 01-15-2025 04:37 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 773213)
"Hard to guess what will pass this early. Better prediction of which may be considered and debated. I think Durbin DACA amendment might pick up traction. Lots of co-signers. And maybe R language on harming law enforcement. Laken Riley killer alleged attacked CBP officer during arrest."

"To secure humanitarian concessions for immigrants under Trump, NGO immigration advocates and Dem. lawmakers must finally acknowledge and help address the dire national public safety and national security challenges from Biden's near-open border policies."

hDreamer1988 01-15-2025 04:57 PM

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Quote:

"To secure humanitarian concessions for immigrants under Trump, NGO immigration advocates and Dem. lawmakers must finally acknowledge and help address the dire national public safety and national security challenges from Biden's near-open border policies."
Lol that will never happen...

DogJuiceMan 01-15-2025 05:59 PM

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Sadly UWD has already stepped up to speak on our behalf and I think in this situation we'd better take what we can get because its clear that Senate republicans have enough Democrat support to pass this bill without any softening amendments.

Its time to pick popcorn off the floor, not demand a new bag of fresh popcorn.
And yes, I know that the bill as is would hurt others. I have to look out for my best interest primarily, everyone looks out for their own best interest first.

You can't save the drowning if you drown along with them.

PapiChulo 01-15-2025 06:57 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 773217)
Sadly UWD has already stepped up to speak on our behalf and I think in this situation we'd better take what we can get because its clear that Senate republicans have enough Democrat support to pass this bill without any softening amendments.

Its time to pick popcorn off the floor, not demand a new bag of fresh popcorn.
And yes, I know that the bill as is would hurt others. I have to look out for my best interest primarily, everyone looks out for their own best interest first.

You can't save the drowning if you drown along with them.

100% correct.

PapiChulo 01-16-2025 04:32 AM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
So basically, we have 1 1/2 year on this timeline?

5th circuit hasn't ruled yet but once it does..
SCOTUS starts oral arguments in Fall 2025 this year
SCOTUS issues final decision in Summer 2026

Correct me if im wrong?

beingoflight 01-16-2025 05:50 AM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 773224)
So basically, we have 1 1/2 year on this timeline?

5th circuit hasn't ruled yet but once it does..
SCOTUS starts oral arguments in Fall 2025 this year
SCOTUS issues final decision in Summer 2026

Correct me if im wrong?

given how quick we are going to be dealing with immigration, give it till this August max.

Copper 01-16-2025 02:06 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
I expressed concerns about Democrats not prioritizing our best interests and only providing empty promises, which some people mocked. Recent events have further validated my concerns. The Democrats have ignored us for years and are now considering passing an anti-immigration bill that could negatively impact not only us, but also others in the immigrant community.

For them to agree to this bill, with only 1 DACA resolution added, which may not even guarantee its permanence, it demonstrates that we are not considered a priority to them and may never be.

beingoflight 01-16-2025 06:52 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 773227)
I expressed concerns about Democrats not prioritizing our best interests and only providing empty promises, which some people mocked. Recent events have further validated my concerns. The Democrats have ignored us for years and are now considering passing an anti-immigration bill that could negatively impact not only us, but also others in the immigrant community.

For them to agree to this bill, with only 1 DACA resolution added, which may not even guarantee its permanence, it demonstrates that we are not considered a priority to them and may never be.

this is true until the final fight in August/July when SCOTUS kills DACA and the major crisis is unleashed.

PapiChulo 01-16-2025 06:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 773229)
this is true until the final fight in August/July when SCOTUS kills DACA and the major crisis is unleashed.

It's possible that SCOTUS doesnt even take it up and the 5th circuit can rule on it, then the Trump administration will not appeal it and just let it die. I don't know when the 5th circuit ruling will be but it could be at anytime now.

If it does still go to SCOTUS then,

I dont think DACA is on the SCOTUS docket from their Fall-Spring '24-'25 term for a ruling this Summer '25.

Unless there is something significant from the 5th circuit, SCOTUS will put DACA for oral arguments in Fall-Spring '25-'26 for a final ruling in Summer '26 on the 250th anniversary of America.

I could be wrong but that's the expected timeline.

moto 01-16-2025 09:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 773229)
this is true until the final fight in August/July when SCOTUS kills DACA and the major crisis is unleashed.

I wouldn’t count on major crisis to do anything for us. It’s double edged sword. It might create urgency to bring forward a bill on floor but we might end up with nothing after all the debates and disagreements.

PapiChulo 01-16-2025 09:47 PM

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What to expect from Trump's Day 1 immigration agenda:
1) cancel the CHNV parole processes which have channeled 30,000 people/month into legal channels
2) ban scheduling appointments for lawful entry from Mexico using the CBPOne app
3) suspend the refugee program for 100+ days & cut cap from 125K to 20K
4) impose a visa/travel ban on a dozen countries
5) impose new "extreme vetting" requirements on all countries
6) possibly suspend all visas globally for 30 days
7) declare a national emergency at the border
8 deploy the national guard to the border
9) redirect military funds to build detention camps
10) restart wall construction
11) invoke Title 42 health authority to expel migrants
12) restart family detention
13) declare an invasion
14) invoke the Alien Enemies Act to deport without due process
15) use the military to enforce Alien Enemies Act
16) revoke prioritization of criminals & security threats for deportation
17) let state/local police conduct immigration arrests & deportation
18 restrict federal funding for sanctuary cities
19) conduct public raid in a sanctuary city
20) instruct review of birthright citizenship
21) review of public charge rule reinstatement
22) review of TPS and DACA

Copper 01-16-2025 10:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 773234)
What to expect from Trump's Day 1 immigration agenda:
1) cancel the CHNV parole processes which have channeled 30,000 people/month into legal channels
2) ban scheduling appointments for lawful entry from Mexico using the CBPOne app
3) suspend the refugee program for 100+ days & cut cap from 125K to 20K
4) impose a visa/travel ban on a dozen countries
5) impose new "extreme vetting" requirements on all countries
6) possibly suspend all visas globally for 30 days
7) declare a national emergency at the border
8 deploy the national guard to the border
9) redirect military funds to build detention camps
10) restart wall construction
11) invoke Title 42 health authority to expel migrants
12) restart family detention
13) declare an invasion
14) invoke the Alien Enemies Act to deport without due process
15) use the military to enforce Alien Enemies Act
16) revoke prioritization of criminals & security threats for deportation
17) let state/local police conduct immigration arrests & deportation
18 restrict federal funding for sanctuary cities
19) conduct public raid in a sanctuary city
20) instruct review of birthright citizenship
21) review of public charge rule reinstatement
22) review of TPS and DACA

Is this official or just word of mouth?

PapiChulo 01-16-2025 10:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 773235)
Is this official or just word of mouth?

Reports from the Hill talking to Trump administration officials.

PapiChulo 01-16-2025 10:10 PM

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"Finally, ending with some big ones: TPS and DACA. The question for DACA is whether Trump actively tries to kill it or lets the court battle play out to SCOTUS. The questions for TPS are which countries are on the chopping block, and whether he tries to terminate TPS early."

Copper 01-16-2025 10:20 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 773234)
What to expect from Trump's Day 1 immigration agenda:
1) cancel the CHNV parole processes which have channeled 30,000 people/month into legal channels
2) ban scheduling appointments for lawful entry from Mexico using the CBPOne app
3) suspend the refugee program for 100+ days & cut cap from 125K to 20K
4) impose a visa/travel ban on a dozen countries
5) impose new "extreme vetting" requirements on all countries
6) possibly suspend all visas globally for 30 days
7) declare a national emergency at the border
8 deploy the national guard to the border
9) redirect military funds to build detention camps
10) restart wall construction
11) invoke Title 42 health authority to expel migrants
12) restart family detention
13) declare an invasion
14) invoke the Alien Enemies Act to deport without due process
15) use the military to enforce Alien Enemies Act
16) revoke prioritization of criminals & security threats for deportation
17) let state/local police conduct immigration arrests & deportation
18 restrict federal funding for sanctuary cities
19) conduct public raid in a sanctuary city
20) instruct review of birthright citizenship
21) review of public charge rule reinstatement
22) review of TPS and DACA

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 773237)
"Finally, ending with some big ones: TPS and DACA. The question for DACA is whether Trump actively tries to kill it or lets the court battle play out to SCOTUS. The questions for TPS are which countries are on the chopping block, and whether he tries to terminate TPS early."

I believe this is all just speculation, and the media tends to sensationalize things. While I don't think he will completely leave us alone, I can see him working towards finding common ground with Democrats. In fact, I have a feeling that the Democrats will make gains in the House in the next 2 years.

I also have a positive outlook that he won't prioritize ending things for us this time around. For some reason, I am feeling more optimistic this term compared to his last term. Let's stay hopeful and focus on the potential for progress and cooperation.

PapiChulo 01-16-2025 10:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 773238)
I believe this is all just speculation, and the media tends to sensationalize things. While I don't think he will completely leave us alone, I can see him working towards finding common ground with Democrats. In fact, I have a feeling that the Democrats will make gains in the House in the next 2 years.

I also have a positive outlook that he won't prioritize ending things for us this time around. For some reason, I am feeling more optimistic this term compared to his last term. Let's stay hopeful and focus on the potential for progress and cooperation.

I agree, i also have a positive outlook but at times I get anxiety once in awhile after seeing articles on the internet.

But you're right, he didnt heavily campaign ending DACA like he did in 2016-2017 and his recent comments after he got elected kinda calmed my nerves. I dont think legalization is in our immediate future but I do think the program will be left alone for CURRENT AND RENEWALS only. I think the 5th circuit wont completely scrap the program and will leave it to current beneficiaries.

But I could be dead wrong in the end... who knows.

Copper 01-16-2025 10:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 773239)
I agree, i also have a positive outlook but at times I get anxiety once in awhile after seeing articles on the internet.

But you're right, he didnt heavily campaign ending DACA like he did in 2016-2017 and his recent comments after he got elected kinda calmed my nerves. I dont think legalization is in our immediate future but I do think the program will be left alone for CURRENT AND RENEWALS only. I think the 5th circuit wont completely scrap the program and will leave it to current beneficiaries.

But I could be dead wrong in the end... who knows.

I can relate to feeling anxious at times, then I remind myself that in his first term, he campaigned on killing DACA and made us a focal point. While this time around, he hasn't spoken negatively about us in his campaign and even mentioned he's open to making a deal in a recent interview.

Since this is his last term and he has nothing to lose, he could have said much worse. But I do agree with you, we can only stay positive, and most importantly out of trouble.

PapiChulo 01-16-2025 10:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 773240)
I can relate to feeling anxious at times, then I remind myself that in his first term, he campaigned on killing DACA and made us a focal point. While this time around, he hasn't spoken negatively about us in his campaign and even mentioned he's open to making a deal in a recent interview.

Since this is his last term and he has nothing to lose, he could have said much worse. But I do agree with you, we can only stay positive, and most importantly out of trouble.

I agree with all you said except about Democrats making gains in the next election.. I hope they never make gains ever again. I hope they stay in the minority for a long time. In regards to us, they seem to only want to do something when they are in the minority and when we are in dire straits. When they're in the majority, they dgaf. I honestly don't trust them. Id rather go down with the ship and self deport than them taking power again.

I dont trust both Congressional Republicans and Democrats, but I think Trump is gonna work something out for us.

Copper 01-16-2025 10:51 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
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Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 773239)
I agree, i also have a positive outlook but at times I get anxiety once in awhile after seeing articles on the internet.

But you're right, he didnt heavily campaign ending DACA like he did in 2016-2017 and his recent comments after he got elected kinda calmed my nerves. I dont think legalization is in our immediate future but I do think the program will be left alone for CURRENT AND RENEWALS only. I think the 5th circuit wont completely scrap the program and will leave it to current beneficiaries.

But I could be dead wrong in the end... who knows.

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Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 773241)
I agree with all you said except about Democrats making gains in the next election.. I hope they never make gains ever again. I hope they stay in the minority for a long time. In regards to us, they seem to only want to do something when they are in the minority and in dire straits. When they're in the majority, they dgaf. I honestly don't trust them. Id rather go down with the ship and self deport than them taking power again.

I dont trust both Congressional Republicans and Democrats, but I think Trump is gonna work something out for us.

I have been feeling disappointed with them for quite some time. When Chuck Schumer made the statement "Dreamers can't occupy the stage," it became clear to me that we were not going to be a priority for them. It seems that they only reach out to us during election season.

I do agree that having them in the majority doesn't necessarily mean they are on our side. The main reason I believe they will regain control of the House in two years is due to the division within the Republican Party in Congress. Americans are likely to notice this and may seek a change.

beingoflight 01-17-2025 03:05 AM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
They will deal with DACA until it gets executed by SCOTUS or when they present the inevitable Immigration Reform which could be before the mid terms. i'll call it right now, no way Republicans win majority in the mid terms, Democrat President is also coming right after Trump AGAIN.

not only that, everyone forgets that Trump is going to be blocked left and right by courts in everything he does AGAIN.

all so predictable at this point.

PapiChulo 01-17-2025 03:10 AM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
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Originally Posted by beingoflight (Post 773243)
They will deal with DACA until it gets executed by SCOTUS or when they present the inevitable Immigration Reform which could be before the mid terms. i'll call it right now, no way Republicans win majority in the mid terms, Democrat President is also coming right after Trump AGAIN.

not only that, everyone forgets that Trump is going to be blocked left and right by courts in everything he does AGAIN.

all so predictable at this point.

Nah, man. Woke is dead. America is back. If Trump atleast does 50% of the things he promised, Democrats will never win again for a generation. If DACA'ers get the fix, it will truly be the Golden Age of America.

vft1008 01-17-2025 11:30 AM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
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Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 773244)
Nah, man. Woke is dead. America is back. If Trump atleast does 50% of the things he promised, Democrats will never win again for a generation. If DACA'ers get the fix, it will truly be the Golden Age of America.

loooooooool

Got_Daca 01-17-2025 11:37 AM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
With 70 votes in, enough Democrats have already joined Republicans in support of cloture that the bill will become law — in a form harsher than when first introduced.

Manhattan2017 01-17-2025 11:52 AM

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I'm a doctor working in nyc with DACA and no other path to legal status. What are my chances with all this going on ��

PapiChulo 01-17-2025 12:59 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
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Originally Posted by Manhattan2017 (Post 773247)
I'm a doctor working in nyc with DACA and no other path to legal status. What are my chances with all this going on ��

Big chance. I wouldn't be worried, my friend.

Copper 01-17-2025 03:00 PM

Re: Laken Riley Act Amendments: Conditional path to citizenship for DACA receipents
 
IT’S OFFICIAL: Democrats have once again betrayed us and abandoned our cause.

The Laken Riley act just passed the procedural process with 61 votes in favor and only 35 against. If this doesn't make it crystal clear that the Democrats are not on our side, then I don't know what will.

The bill is expected to pass next week with significant support from Democrats, providing President Trump with a victory on immigration in his first week in office.

Keep in mind that NO DACA amendment was added to this bill. So we can potentially be affected by this once it passes.


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