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Got_Daca 02-21-2025 02:02 PM

$175 billion for enforcement only [lmao at weak Dems]
 
Without nothing in return

Big Maga Energy

https://apnews.com/article/senate-bu...34dbb5c3c3ffb7

Remember how Dems refused $20 billion border wall money for DACA legalization?

Dems are real enemy!

vft1008 02-21-2025 05:20 PM

Re: $175 billion for enforcement only [lmao at weak Dems]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 774245)
Without nothing in return

Big Maga Energy

Dems are real enemy!

Do you know how to read, dumbass?
Quote:

The hours-long “vote-a-rama” rambled along in a dreaded but crucial part of the budget process, as senators considered one amendment after another,*largely from Democrats*trying to halt it. But Republicans used their majority power to muscle the package to approval on a largely party-line vote, 52-48, with all Democrats and one GOP senator opposing it.
What do you want them to do when they don't have a majority?

hDreamer1988 02-21-2025 06:13 PM

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This is a reconciliation bill. It was already decided by the parliamentarian that legal status cannot be a part of it so no surprise there

DogJuiceMan 02-21-2025 06:57 PM

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The craziest part is how they want to eliminate social security and medicare and even defang the unions. Some 4 Trillion of cuts with tax cuts for the wealthy(again), and then they want to eliminate the IRS and fund everything from traiffs. Like reaganomics, trickle down economics failed miserably but I think this time it'll work.

They are still on that tariffs are paid by the sender bullshit. Lolololol.

I am predicting that this is going to cause the economy to enter a second great depression.

Copper 02-21-2025 08:07 PM

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This is what happens when a party is in control of their government and accepts no for an answer. The Democrats are still abiding by outdated rules as if it were 1989. It's no surprise that people are leaving the party in large numbers. They lack the courage to be assertive. What a joke of a party.

vft1008 02-21-2025 11:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 774251)
This is what happens when a party is in control of their government and accepts no for an answer. The Democrats are still abiding by outdated rules as if it were 1989. It's no surprise that people are leaving the party in large numbers. They lack the courage to be assertive. What a joke of a party.

Post variant #103.
Good bot!

Copper 02-22-2025 12:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 774252)
Post variant #103.
Good bot!

Says the crying baby that can't hold an argument when facts get thrown his way. If you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

jorgeag92 02-22-2025 11:56 AM

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I wish Republicans were in dreamers side. We would have been legalized ages ago. The only party that knows how to get shit done

vft1008 02-22-2025 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 774254)
I wish Republicans were in dreamers side. We would have been legalized ages ago. The only party that knows how to get shit done

Yea, it's too bad about the whole xenophobia, racism, and white nationalist thing, huh? If only it wasn't for that!

Pianoswithoutfaith 02-22-2025 03:46 PM

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I seriously hope all these fucking maga daca get deported first

DogJuiceMan 02-22-2025 05:40 PM

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I am of the belief that things have to get much worse before real positive action is taken and it pierces the propaganda veil over their eyes. It has to affect them personally before it clicks. Sometimes has to affect them personally multiple times. They don't learn with words, thats just fake Democrat-controlled fake news. Thats how much they've been stuffed with propaganda over the decades. They think we're all on welfare, and Trump has gone as far as to ban the undocumented from it again. All the last times didn't work apparently, despite it being already law, and despite it being an easily verifiable fact.

They think we're not paying taxes, despite taxes being easy to do with ITIN. The government may not care as much about immigration, but once you mess with the taxes they care deeply. They have a super computer to verify tax returns and it assigns a risk score. If you submit a dodgy return it'll be flagged. Whether it will be investigated is a function of return on investment and available staff.

Oh well, I won't continue to debunk. Its preaching to the choir.

If it weren't good propaganda then you wouldn't fall for it. In other words, good propaganda isn't noticeable. Several doses of reality will cure them. Stuff like how that energy credit was cancelled and the power bill went up $100, or how critical medicines went from $60 to $600. I think once they start with the mass deportations and food shoots up in price like crazy that's when it'll click. But muh RohBahts! TechNahLoGee! Any robot capable of doing farmwork at a competitive price is capable of eating the entire manufacturing labor market, and pretty much most low-wage labor markets. Could totally envision a robot to stock shelves. The US is a service industry and financials economy for the most part. Thats the thing nobody gets when they show off these fancy humanoid robots. They aren't meant to be your housemaid, they are meant to take away jobs that are labor intensive but the labor available is too expensive. Thats what they want to do to a similar extent with these chatGPT robots, consume the intellectual work as well.

Technology isn't the saving force you think it is. Its full of trade-offs and still can't be made without critical and environmentally-damaging components. Unless our species stumbles upon of a miracle energy source within the next 50 years this will be peak human existence for a long time. Its not space-faring society, it'll be agrarian society next.

Oh well. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ gg.

NK74 02-23-2025 09:54 PM

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This forum:

https://i.redd.it/r6zxbbk1n0881.jpg

NK74 02-23-2025 09:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 774254)
I wish Republicans were in dreamers side. We would have been legalized ages ago. The only party that knows how to get shit done

The more accurate description is that the party that knows how to stop shit from getting done, BECAUSE THE POLITICAL SYSTEM GIVES DISPROPORTIONATE POWER TO MINORITIES!

vft1008 02-23-2025 09:59 PM

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^looooool

Can't wait for to Copper to chime in and post how she's so disappointed by the Democrats for the 150th time. My post should actually trigger her basic programming to respond, actually.

DogJuiceMan 02-24-2025 01:27 PM

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We have one party that works really hard to make things worse for literally everybody but billionaires and another party that's too spineless to do anything meaningful to stop the first one.

Someone needs to be taking notes on how the Republicans are doing all this.

vft1008 02-24-2025 04:48 PM

Re: $175 billion for enforcement only [lmao at weak Dems]
 
Dumbass federal workers thay voted MAGA finally finding out what they meant by "drain the swamp" and "small government".
No illegal aliens taking away Americans' jobs, just Trump and Elon doing that. Clowns.

dreamer12345 02-25-2025 12:18 PM

Re: $175 billion for enforcement only [lmao at weak Dems]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 774245)
Without nothing in return

Big Maga Energy

https://apnews.com/article/senate-bu...34dbb5c3c3ffb7

Remember how Dems refused $20 billion border wall money for DACA legalization?

Dems are real enemy!

this was passed by the republican held senate w/no vote from a single democrat. It goes down to the House next.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/119/sconres7
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/119-2025/s87

DogJuiceMan 02-25-2025 05:35 PM

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I know it's the flavor of the month to hate democrats. But I'd like to point out that they don't have enough views to do anything meaningful.

If people wanted democrats to do more then they should've gone out to vote. Oh well. Things will get worse before they get better.

Copper 02-25-2025 08:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 774282)
I know it's the flavor of the month to hate democrats. But I'd like to point out that they don't have enough views to do anything meaningful.

If people wanted democrats to do more then they should've gone out to vote. Oh well. Things will get worse before they get better.

It is clear that Republicans have been successful in stopping Democratic agendas when they are in the minority. However, Democrats cannot keep using the excuse of not having enough "power" when they are in the minority.

It is time for Democrats to stop playing a dangerous game and start taking action. Sitting back and letting things play out will only make them appear weaker and cause more people to leave the party.

Currently, they are polling at their lowest, with more people defecting to either become independent or Republican. Regrettably, the Democrats are too weak to comprehend their voters.

Got_Daca 02-25-2025 10:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 774283)
It is clear that Republicans have been successful in stopping Democratic agendas when they are in the minority. However, Democrats cannot keep using the excuse of not having enough "power" when they are in the minority.

It is time for Democrats to stop playing a dangerous game and start taking action. Sitting back and letting things play out will only make them appear weaker and cause more people to leave the party.

Currently, they are polling at their lowest, with more people defecting to either become independent or Republican. Regrettably, the Democrats are too weak to comprehend their voters.

This country is and always been Center-Right.

Dems are the Female

GOP is the Male

vft1008 02-25-2025 11:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 774288)
Dems are the Female

GOP is the Male

Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan fan detected. looooool

Also, weren't you beat up by your girlfriend?

Copper 02-25-2025 11:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 774294)
Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan fan detected. looooool

Also, weren't you beat up by your girlfriend?

What’s the tea here? :lol: :lol:

vft1008 02-25-2025 11:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 774299)
What’s the tea here? :lol: :lol:

He got beat up by his GF and then came here and asked if he could file a VAWA (Violence Aganst Women Act) case to get a green card.

Copper 02-26-2025 12:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 774294)
Andrew Tate and Joe Rogan fan detected. looooool

Also, weren't you beat up by your girlfriend?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 774305)
He got beat up by his GF and then came here and asked if he could file a VAWA (Violence Aganst Women Act) case to get a green card.

Oh my :lol: That is wild :lol: I wonder if he has any updates for us lol! Give us the tea Got_Daca.

DogJuiceMan 02-26-2025 02:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 774283)
It is clear that Republicans have been successful in stopping Democratic agendas when they are in the minority. However, Democrats cannot keep using the excuse of not having enough "power" when they are in the minority.

It is time for Democrats to stop playing a dangerous game and start taking action. Sitting back and letting things play out will only make them appear weaker and cause more people to leave the party.

Currently, they are polling at their lowest, with more people defecting to either become independent or Republican. Regrettably, the Democrats are too weak to comprehend their voters.

Democrats often don't have control of both houses of congress and thus its easy for Republicans to block and obstruct. Last time they had control was during 2021 with a 50-50 split and a lot of Democrats in unsafe seats and not enough vulnerable republicans to invoke cloture on the filibuster.

If people want Democrat ideals then they have to get out there and vote. Otherwise, no complaining allowed.

dreamer12345 02-26-2025 10:38 AM

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House has now passed budget resolution w/o any dem vote:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...dget-vote.html

880billion in medicare cuts will sure kill a lot of people.

vft1008 02-26-2025 10:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 774314)
House has now passed budget resolution w/o any dem vote:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...dget-vote.html

880billion in medicare cuts will sure kill a lot of people.

Their internal thoughts in November, 2024:
"But she's a woman, is Black, and is educated..."

Got_Daca 02-26-2025 11:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 774306)
Oh my :lol: That is wild :lol: I wonder if he has any updates for us lol! Give us the tea Got_Daca.

ex-GF got convicted for Domestic Violence Misdemeanor A

I don't qualify for VAWA

But pretty sure I qualify for U-Visa

Her attack was pretty gruesome

Copper 02-26-2025 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 774252)
Post variant #103.
Good bot!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan (Post 774311)
Democrats often don't have control of both houses of congress and thus its easy for Republicans to block and obstruct. Last time they had control was during 2021 with a 50-50 split and a lot of Democrats in unsafe seats and not enough vulnerable republicans to invoke cloture on the filibuster.

If people want Democrat ideals then they have to get out there and vote. Otherwise, no complaining allowed.

I strongly disagree with you. Democrats have numerous strategies to fight back, one of which is through government funding. Another approach is for states with Democratic governors and legislatures to enact laws that protect their states and be aggressive with it.

However, a major downfall for Democrats is their lack of strength and organizational abilities. Look at how Republicans organized themselves - they allowed their 2016 primary elections to unfold and listened to their voters. Despite the Republican establishment's reservations about Trump, the party did not undermine him like the Democrats did with Bernie.

As a result, Republicans won the 2016 elections and stacked the Supreme Court in their favor. This has enabled them to implement any policies they desire, all by outmaneuvering the Democratic Party. Currently, the Democratic Party lacks a clear message and seems unsure of their values. Their polling numbers are at an all-time low, with more people defecting from the party.

It is imperative that the Democratic party retools by removing Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and stops promoting individuals solely based on their ranks. The decision by 84-year-old Nancy Pelosi to prevent AOC from obtaining a top House oversight position speaks volumes about the current state of the party.

The Democrats claim to be the party of open arms, but they fail to welcome those with differing ideas. They are entrenched in the past and have lost the support of key figures like Bernie, Elon, Trump, Tulsi, RFK Jr, Joe Rogan, tech companies, unions, newspapers, and more. To win, it is crucial to have these individuals on your side, even if you may not always agree with them.

The Republican party has successfully utilized these alliances to their advantage, outsmarting the Democratic party. It is time for the Democrats to reassess their approach and embrace a more inclusive and strategic mindset. It is evident that they have failed to learn from past mistakes, ignore the voices of their constituents, and maintain the status quo of the party establishment. This is precisely why Trump emerged victorious.

He is unafraid to enact change and take unconventional actions that traditional politicians shy away from. It is time for the Democratic party to heed the call for change and embrace a new direction.

They need to stop obsessing over pronouns and transgenders and start prioritizing the working class party again. And don't be shocked if they give in during the government shutdown.

DogJuiceMan 02-27-2025 07:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Copper (Post 774321)
I strongly disagree with you. Democrats have numerous strategies to fight back, one of which is through government funding. Another approach is for states with Democratic governors and legislatures to enact laws that protect their states and be aggressive with it.

However, a major downfall for Democrats is their lack of strength and organizational abilities. Look at how Republicans organized themselves - they allowed their 2016 primary elections to unfold and listened to their voters. Despite the Republican establishment's reservations about Trump, the party did not undermine him like the Democrats did with Bernie.

As a result, Republicans won the 2016 elections and stacked the Supreme Court in their favor. This has enabled them to implement any policies they desire, all by outmaneuvering the Democratic Party. Currently, the Democratic Party lacks a clear message and seems unsure of their values. Their polling numbers are at an all-time low, with more people defecting from the party.

It is imperative that the Democratic party retools by removing Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and stops promoting individuals solely based on their ranks. The decision by 84-year-old Nancy Pelosi to prevent AOC from obtaining a top House oversight position speaks volumes about the current state of the party.

The Democrats claim to be the party of open arms, but they fail to welcome those with differing ideas. They are entrenched in the past and have lost the support of key figures like Bernie, Elon, Trump, Tulsi, RFK Jr, Joe Rogan, tech companies, unions, newspapers, and more. To win, it is crucial to have these individuals on your side, even if you may not always agree with them.

The Republican party has successfully utilized these alliances to their advantage, outsmarting the Democratic party. It is time for the Democrats to reassess their approach and embrace a more inclusive and strategic mindset. It is evident that they have failed to learn from past mistakes, ignore the voices of their constituents, and maintain the status quo of the party establishment. This is precisely why Trump emerged victorious.

He is unafraid to enact change and take unconventional actions that traditional politicians shy away from. It is time for the Democratic party to heed the call for change and embrace a new direction.

They need to stop obsessing over pronouns and transgenders and start prioritizing the working class party again. And don't be shocked if they give in during the government shutdown.

I definitely remember when they undermined Bernie with their 150 votes against him by the DNC. This is all the fruit of that fateful choice.

https://www.salon.com/2016/02/13/un_...ots_activists/

Superdelegate system. aka RIGGING.

"Unpledged delegates exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don't have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists."

This is the rot at the heart of the democrat party and why they aren't effective.

Yeah they are going to fold in the upcoming government shutdown. After all, with the system stacked in their favor they have nothing to worry about if they fold.

Yeah and given their recent behavior at the DNC they are still on the woke and thus will take on more losses.

vft1008 02-27-2025 11:11 PM

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You guys need to stop writing your PhD dissertations in these posts. It's not that serious.

davidrellis 02-28-2025 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 774249)
This is a reconciliation bill. It was already decided by the parliamentarian that legal status cannot be a part of it so no surprise there

That was bullshit. Republicans fired the parliamentarian in 2003 when that person wouldn’t agree to their immigration changes.

davidrellis 02-28-2025 03:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 774254)
I wish Republicans were in dreamers side. We would have been legalized ages ago. The only party that knows how to get shit done

The party of lowering grocery prices!! Lower grocery bills are coming any day now just like the $5,000 doge check!

DogJuiceMan 02-28-2025 06:49 PM

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Let the republicans own this disaster in the making. All the "from the heart" salutes won't help come mid-terms.

Tariff disaster still active.
Economy still trash.
Stock market down or stagnant.
People still struggling.
Inflation still raging.
Groceries still high.
Critical federal workers fired.
Houses still expensive.
Cars still expensive.
Minimum wage still at $7.25
Tuition still expensive.
Taxes still on tips.
Taxes still on overtime.
Social Security still taxed.
Ukraine war still ongoing.
Tate brothers still on the loose.
Drugs still winning the drug war.
Barely any dent in the debt of 32T from DOGE.
$5M Gold card to foreigners with zero attachment to the US.

New budget with 4 Trillion Tax cuts, 2 Trillion spending cuts. Still losing money. So much of the spending cuts are just notional "efficiency" and "provisions"

Its about as grim for Republicans as it for the undocumented. Proportionally.

Just like Elons' brilliant twitter investment went from 40B down to 10B on a good day.


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