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justjohnjustice1988 05-17-2018 11:49 PM

Dems give members green light to sign immigration petition
 
House Democratic leaders are telling their members the time has come to sign onto a Republican discharge petition aimed at forcing votes in the House on immigration.

Democratic leaders had encouraged their-rank-and-file to hold off on signing the petition to see if it garnered the 25 GOP signatures that would be needed to reach a majority.

But now, with 20 Republicans having endorsed the measure, Democratic leaders are changing their tune.

"Members are strongly urged to sign the Curbelo Queen-of-the-Hill discharge petition on the House Floor, which is available for signatures immediately," reads a whip notice sent out to the Democratic Caucus by its leaders Thursday.

Due to the timing of when a motion to discharge could be made on the Floor, and the current voting schedule, today is a critical day to try to achieve 218 signatures," the notice states.

Before the notice, a handful of Democrats had already signed the petition.

At House votes Thursday evening, Democrats were quick to heed the advice of leaders, queuing up on the floor to sign the petition. The line snaked from the dais to the back of the chamber.

Not every Democrat is on board. Rep. Filemon Vela, who represents a border district in Texas, is concerned the Queen of the Hill process will lead to new border wall construction, which he adamantly opposes.

"I ain't signing it," Vela said heading into the votes. "I'm not going to facilitate a vote that will provide border wall funding."

Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.) last week introduced the discharge petition, a rarely used procedural tactic that can be used to go around leadership and force votes on legislation.

Republican leaders have urged their members not to back the petition, warning the move will cede control of the floor to Democrats.

If Curbelo's discharge petition reaches 218 signatures, it would force a floor vote on a proposal introduced by Rep. Jeff Denham (R-Calif.) that's known as a Queen of the Hill rule.

Under Queen of the Hill, different proposals on a same issue are voted on the House floor, and the bill that gets the most votes past a 50 percent threshold is approved and sent to the Senate.

Denham's proposal would include four bills designed to replace the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which President Trump cancelled in September.

The proposals in Denham's Queen of the Hill rule are a conservative bill proposed by Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) that would grant temporary status to so-called "Dreamers" while imposing a series of restrictive measures on legal and illegal immigration; the Dream Act, which would grant a path to citizenship to at least 1.8 million Dreamers; the USA Act, a bipartisan compromise that would pair Dream Act-like measures with $25 billion in border security; and an open slot for Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to propose an immigration bill of his choosing.

Denham specifically wrote his rule to avoid confrontation with leadership, giving space to the measure top GOP brass had been whipping - the Goodlatte bill - and the slot for Ryan.

But leaders still opposed the Queen of the Hill rule, and later the discharge petition, arguing both gave far too much power to the minority party.

That set off negotiations between Denham's camp and party leaders, as the conservative Freedom Caucus intervened and threatened to derail an unrelated measure, the farm bill, if Ryan and Majority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) did not stop the discharge petition.

Those negotiations could yield a vote on the Goodlatte bill - almost certain to fail - and an alternate immigration plan designed to garner 218 Republican votes in the House and the possibility win passage in the Senate. But finding a bill that can win broad GOP support in the House has proven elusive since Trump's DACA announcement in September.

The negotiations between Ryan, Denham and Freedom Caucus Chairman Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) have struck a nerve with Democrats, who don't want to be left out of the legislative process one of their core issues.

Democrats are keen to prove their proposals, the Dream Act and the USA Act, have wide support among members. They're also predicting the Goodlatte bill would have a weak showing, countering the notion of widespread support for Trump's immigration policies.

They also expect the fourth proposal - presumably similar to the deal being negotiated between Ryan, Denham and Meadows - to garner fewer votes than either of the bills they support.

https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.c...petition%3famp

justjohnjustice1988 05-17-2018 11:50 PM

Re: Dems give members green light to sign immigration petition
 
So far the petition now has 153

20 Reps and the rest Dems

IamAman 05-20-2018 12:04 PM

Re: Dems give members green light to sign immigration petition
 
But still some on here will say "The dems are going to screw us over again"

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-20-2018 02:49 PM

Re: Dems give members green light to sign immigration petition
 
2010 DA

32 Republican voted no vs 6 Democrats who voted no

DAP closet redhats : “Democrats always screwing us over!!”

2017: Republicans President Ends DACA ( only to be save by federal judges )


DAP closet redhats : “damn these federal judges always screwing us over!!”

BeansDreamtoo21 05-20-2018 03:28 PM

Re: Dems give members green light to sign immigration petition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith (Post 705656)
2010 DA

32 Republican voted no vs 6 Democrats who voted no

DAP closet redhats : “Democrats always screwing us over!!”

2017: Republicans President Ends DACA ( only to be save by federal judges )


DAP closet redhats : “damn these federal judges always screwing us over!!”

WAIT A MINUTE.. are you serious REPUBLICANS VOTED AGAINST DREAM ACT WHEN THEY ARE ELECTED TO DO JUST THAT???

Pianoswithoutfaith 05-20-2018 06:36 PM

Re: Dems give members green light to sign immigration petition
 
Here comes the typical redhat republican apologists

“It’s okay for republicans to screw ya over cos you know they’re suppose to!”

versailles 05-20-2018 10:20 PM

Re: Dems give members green light to sign immigration petition
 
why are these retards so beholden to what their superiors say.
do they have to ask pelosi and schumer if it's okay to wipe themselves too?


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