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thedelight21 10-16-2020 01:12 PM

Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-...am-93940805719

President Trump says the Trump administration's policy changes on the DACA program are due to the coronavirus pandemic during the town hall that he had yesterday.

My thoughts? Yeah...ok. /s

gely_velazquez 10-16-2020 02:03 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Yeah, I happen to catch the interview right at this question. No one corrected him. He’s been trying to kill the program way before the pandemic, but people will believe anything coming out of her mouth

JayR9 10-16-2020 02:27 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
What is the difference between DACA and Dreamers?

thedelight21 10-16-2020 02:49 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 752042)
What is the difference between DACA and Dreamers?

I have no idea what he meant by saying they’re different.

Afridi786 10-16-2020 03:03 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Hope Trump shows us some mercy because 100% he will be re elected. It's all rigged for him.

neoair 10-16-2020 03:20 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 752042)
What is the difference between DACA and Dreamers?

Although no difference. I would say, DREAMers = no DACA, DACA = DREAMers with DACA. Idk...

FLDreamerrr 10-16-2020 03:27 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
How does the pandemic cause you to make a change on daca lol? How does changing the 2yr permit to 1 assist with controlling Covid ?

Afridi786 10-16-2020 03:31 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FLDreamerrr (Post 752048)
How does the pandemic cause you to make a change on daca lol? How does changing the 2yr permit to 1 assist with controlling Covid ?

Easier to deport us due to pandemic making everything more difficult.

JayR9 10-16-2020 05:47 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
I watched the whole town hall. He hardly answered any of the questions. Answering something is "Bad" and will be replaced with something "Great" is not a answer.

Watched the Biden town hall last night and he was very informative.

paperneedpaper 10-16-2020 06:06 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 752044)
Hope Trump shows us some mercy because 100% he will be re elected. It's all rigged for him.

Will you shut up man?

JayR9 10-16-2020 07:39 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-nod...024037756.html

How can you be a immigration lawyer and support trump?

vft1008 10-16-2020 07:47 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
All DACAers are Dreamers, but not all Dreamers are DACAers.



Also... Fuck Donald Trump.

thedelight21 10-16-2020 08:19 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 752056)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-nod...024037756.html

How can you be a immigration lawyer and support trump?

I was thinking the same when I heard about that. I looked at her business Facebook page...looks like she’s getting a lot of hate now.

lakers1824 10-16-2020 10:49 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 752056)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-nod...024037756.html

How can you be a immigration lawyer and support trump?

Just like you have people here who hate other illegals or immigrants in general.

JayR9 10-17-2020 02:20 AM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lakers1824 (Post 752059)
Just like you have people here who hate other illegals or immigrants in general.

Well tougher enforcement would definitely bring in more revenue but trump banned all types of immigration sponsoring post Covid. I would never hire a immigration lawyer who’s a trump lover. Probably working with ICE to deport you faster

Demise 10-17-2020 05:32 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Don't piss in my ear and tell me that it's raining, Donald.

fl_dreamer 10-19-2020 11:12 AM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
" We have to be extra cautious. Mexico is infected... "

WTF - DACA people cannot travel outside the country dumb fuck

johnfreyan 10-22-2020 08:11 AM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 752056)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-nod...024037756.html

How can you be a immigration lawyer and support trump?

What do you mean? There are quite a bit of DACA recipients in this forum who love Trump. Not to mention that fucking asshole Hilario Yanez.

Immigration lawyer supporting Trump is nothing compared to those dinguses.

2Face 10-22-2020 03:10 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 752056)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-nod...024037756.html

How can you be a immigration lawyer and support trump?

Its all about perspective and point of view. One person can support Trump because his family member was killed by someone who was undocumented and the other person can hate Trump because his family member was deported. Don't assume everyone thinks like you do, moral of the story. There could be immigration lawyers who are conservative and think that immigrants are flooding the system and causing backlogs and there could be others who are more liberal and think that the current system is very unfair to a lot of people.

justjohnjustice1988 10-22-2020 10:50 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 752110)
Its all about perspective and point of view. One person can support Trump because his family member was killed by someone who was undocumented and the other person can hate Trump because his family member was deported. Don't assume everyone thinks like you do, moral of the story. There could be immigration lawyers who are conservative and think that immigrants are flooding the system and causing backlogs and there could be others who are more liberal and think that the current system is very unfair to a lot of people.

Don't waste your time.

A big portion of US educated young people, especially Dreamers, are of left wing ideology and don't understand the concept of laws.

Our parents broke US law to bring us here but somehow that is Trump's fault.

Obama/Biden failed to pass immigration reform. They dont care about immigration until election day.

It's hard for many to fathom that people actually support conservative points of view.

Only the media and wall street/corporate American is pro Dem, pro Leftist open borders.

Stop future Dreamer waves. No one deserves the hell Dreamers have to deal with because of both Republican and Democratic failed leadership on immigration.

JayR9 10-22-2020 11:13 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 752110)
Its all about perspective and point of view. One person can support Trump because his family member was killed by someone who was undocumented and the other person can hate Trump because his family member was deported. Don't assume everyone thinks like you do, moral of the story. There could be immigration lawyers who are conservative and think that immigrants are flooding the system and causing backlogs and there could be others who are more liberal and think that the current system is very unfair to a lot of people.

right but you choose a career where you hate your clients? You represent people that you want deported out of the country?

Smooth 10-23-2020 11:13 AM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 752116)
Don't waste your time.

A big portion of US educated young people, especially Dreamers, are of left wing ideology and don't understand the concept of laws.

Our parents broke US law to bring us here but somehow that is Trump's fault.

Obama/Biden failed to pass immigration reform. They dont care about immigration until election day.

It's hard for many to fathom that people actually support conservative points of view.

Only the media and wall street/corporate American is pro Dem, pro Leftist open borders.

Stop future Dreamer waves. No one deserves the hell Dreamers have to deal with because of both Republican and Democratic failed leadership on immigration.

We aren't any morally superior to our parents because we consciously continued to break the law by staying here illegally as soon as we became adults. We had the free will to leave and go by the book as soon as we became adults, but we decided to stay.

Mens rea. Actus rea. Causation.

Get ready for Trump's loss.

JayR9 10-23-2020 02:05 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988 (Post 752116)
Don't waste your time.

A big portion of US educated young people, especially Dreamers, are of left wing ideology and don't understand the concept of laws.

Our parents broke US law to bring us here but somehow that is Trump's fault.

Obama/Biden failed to pass immigration reform. They dont care about immigration until election day.

It's hard for many to fathom that people actually support conservative points of view.

Only the media and wall street/corporate American is pro Dem, pro Leftist open borders.

Stop future Dreamer waves. No one deserves the hell Dreamers have to deal with because of both Republican and Democratic failed leadership on immigration.

Smooth has a point. You're an adult now. You're breaking the same laws your parents are breaking. Why not be a man and leave?

Demise 10-24-2020 04:26 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 752129)
Smooth has a point. You're an adult now. You're breaking the same laws your parents are breaking. Why not be a man and leave?

Honestly the system could be fixed by doing any one of the following:

1. Putting in place a statute of limitations. The government doesn't successfully remove you in 10 years, you get permanent residency.
2. Reinstating 245(i), fine, you broke the law, find a sponsor, wait through any appropriate backlog, pay a fine, file for AOS.
3. Getting rid of re-entry bans, similarly to 245(i), fine, you broke the law, find a sponsor, wait through the appropriate backlog, leave, go grab your immigrant visa, and return.

What we're seeing right now is a direct consequence of IIRIRA where they got rid of old version of 245(i) and placed re-entry bars, and the illegal immigrant population ballooned because the safety valves were removed. Lets face it, people will always overstay, stowaway or get smuggled on a ship or a plane, or hop across a shitty TrumpCo. fence. Just before IIRIRA you could eventually get right with the law one way or another, right now what option(s) do you have? Marry a USC, become a parent to a USC and try COR or wait 21 years, go get shot in the hood to get a U-visa, or try a hail Mary with asylum since you better have a good reason you didn't file within 1 year as mandated by the RealID Act.

dreamer12345 10-24-2020 05:39 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 752129)
Smooth has a point. You're an adult now. You're breaking the same laws your parents are breaking. Why not be a man and leave?

cons are perpetual victims always shifting blame. For reference look at the story in the opening post

PapiChulo 10-25-2020 06:09 AM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 752129)
Smooth has a point. You're an adult now. You're breaking the same laws your parents are breaking. Why not be a man and leave?

he’s too much of a “gay” republican and tucker carlson fanboy to leave.

Dreamer1980 10-25-2020 05:11 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PapiChulo (Post 752151)
he’s too much of a “gay” republican and tucker carlson fanboy to leave.

it is hilarious to be a dreamer and a young republican, talk about a confused fella. talk about poor judgement., the hypocrisy of it blows my mind

It has to be Russian propaganda, or a proud boy type, trying to confuse Dreamers.

zalmoxe 10-26-2020 12:10 AM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
So as DACA, we are required to get REAL ID? I thought this is only for flying domestically?

JayR9 10-26-2020 01:30 AM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Demise (Post 752143)
Honestly the system could be fixed by doing any one of the following:

1. Putting in place a statute of limitations. The government doesn't successfully remove you in 10 years, you get permanent residency.
2. Reinstating 245(i), fine, you broke the law, find a sponsor, wait through any appropriate backlog, pay a fine, file for AOS.
3. Getting rid of re-entry bans, similarly to 245(i), fine, you broke the law, find a sponsor, wait through the appropriate backlog, leave, go grab your immigrant visa, and return.

What we're seeing right now is a direct consequence of IIRIRA where they got rid of old version of 245(i) and placed re-entry bars, and the illegal immigrant population ballooned because the safety valves were removed. Lets face it, people will always overstay, stowaway or get smuggled on a ship or a plane, or hop across a shitty TrumpCo. fence. Just before IIRIRA you could eventually get right with the law one way or another, right now what option(s) do you have? Marry a USC, become a parent to a USC and try COR or wait 21 years, go get shot in the hood to get a U-visa, or try a hail Mary with asylum since you better have a good reason you didn't file within 1 year as mandated by the RealID Act.

Yeah, the system was broken. Clinton had a lot of blame for it. He wanted to appear tough on immigrants for his reelection. Democrats need to write their wrongs for us in the upcoming 4 years. DACA has a lot of support right now and long as Biden wins we will get some form of pathway to legalization.

Smooth 10-26-2020 11:24 AM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Still waiting on that executive order Trump said he would issue to grant us citizenship.... lmfao

Fucking moron

Afridi786 10-27-2020 12:16 AM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Deleting this comment.

2Face 10-28-2020 04:09 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 752175)
We're all going to be deported. DACA recipients will be specifically targeted right after the election. Remember, cruelty is the point.

Stop scaring people. If that didn't happen yet, why will it happen after the election.

pavpatel 10-28-2020 09:33 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Can we ban Afridi786? He's just spreading fear and it's not okay. Dreamers commit suicide on the regular and deal with mental illness. Please be watchful of your words.

dreamer12345 10-31-2020 09:32 AM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 752221)
Stop scaring people. If that didn't happen yet, why will it happen after the election.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pavpatel (Post 752226)
Can we ban Afridi786? He's just spreading fear and it's not okay. Dreamers commit suicide on the regular and deal with mental illness. Please be watchful of your words.

you need to get your head out of the hand if you don't think we're on the chopping block on a Trump re-election.

2Face 11-02-2020 01:30 PM

Re: Trump says coronavirus pandemic is to blame for policy changes on DACA program
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamer12345 (Post 752250)
you need to get your head out of the hand if you don't think we're on the chopping block on a Trump re-election.

No..speak for yourself...I'm completely going to be fine no matter who wins the election. The way that guy is talking can turn innocent people suicidal if they read his comments...we have many lurkers here, many young and people coming to get info. Its nowhere close to how he's describing. He's got personal issues that need to be addressed, he even admitted it.


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