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Red neck 01-23-2019 01:00 PM
House Dems push new border security plan as shutdown staggers on
 
House Democrats are preparing a counteroffer to President Donald Trump’s border security proposal, seeking to restart long-stalled negotiations to reopen the government after 33 days.

Democratic leaders have drafted their own plan to reopen the Department of Homeland Security that boosts border security funding but doesn’t provide new money for a wall, according to multiple Democratic lawmakers and aides.

Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-Calif.), chair of the Appropriations subcommittee that funds DHS, spent the weekend working on a bill that will “reflect the consensus of House Democrats,” one aide said. The bill stands little chance of becoming law in the face of likely GOP opposition, but is seen as “something to work with” in negotiations with the White House.

The bill won’t include any additional money for Trump’s fencing project, but will include more money for other Democratic border security priorities, such as new technology and more staff to stem the flow of illegal drugs through ports of entry.

Rep. Katherine Clark (D-Mass.), vice chair of the House Democratic Conference, confirmed the plans to reporters Wednesday.

“We are hoping to roll that out this week,” Clark said. “That it will be setting forth a path forward out of this, and building on what we have been trying to put forward.”

soypana 01-23-2019 01:06 PM
Re: House Dems push new border security plan as shutdown staggers on
 
Why they keep wasting their time on these plan..

jorgeag92 01-23-2019 01:09 PM
Re: House Dems push new border security plan as shutdown staggers on
 
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Originally Posted by soypana (Post 730018)
Why they keep wasting their time on these plan..
Because they need to use us for 2020 elections. Dems didnt want to talk about DACA this term. It is just being talked about because it is the only way out of the shutdown, but doesnt mean that was Dems preferred path.

vft1008 01-23-2019 01:20 PM
Re: House Dems push new border security plan as shutdown staggers on
 
This is utter bullshit. Give him $5B for border security for nothing in return except opening the government. Wow.


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Shutdown, Day 33: House Democrats will make new offer to Trump to reopen government
Eliza Collins and Michael Collins, USA TODAY
Published 10:56 a.m. ET Jan. 23, 2019 | Updated 11:48 a.m. ET Jan. 23, 2019
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...mp/2656117002/


WASHINGTON – House Democratic leaders are drafting a letter to President Donald Trump that would propose roughly $5 billion in border security – if the president agrees to reopen the government.

The proposal does not include money for any “new structures” along the southern border as the president has demanded, so it is unlikely to move as is. But it is still significant because it is the first time Democratic leadership will broadly lay out what they might accept in a compromise to end the partial government shutdown, now in its 33rd day.

“It’s a starting point. You know, I think we all want border security. There is no question about it," Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson, the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, told reporters Wednesday. "It’s just that some of the things that are being pursued in the name of border security we disagree with.”

Thompson said he is involved in drafting the letter, which he expects to come from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

“No new structures, the only thing we are talking about is existing structures, along with the judges and some other things,” Thompson said. He said there would be money for “some new” Customs and Border Protection agents and to bolster ports of entry.

:arrow:Thompson said protections for so-called "Dreamers," undocumented immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, are not included in the proposal..

Trump offered a proposal that would include temporary protections for Dreamers as well as refugees who had previously been given Temporary Protected Status in the United States in exchange for $5.7 billion for his wall along the southern border. The president's proposal would make it harder for minors from Central America to seek asylum, an idea Democrats oppose.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., has scheduled a vote to begin debate on the president’s proposal Thursday. If that fails to get the 60 votes required, a bill that would fund most of the government through Sept. 30 and the Department of Homeland Security through Feb. 8 will be voted on.

The Democratic-controlled House has already passed that bill, but Trump has said he would veto it. It is unclear if either bill will make it through the Senate.

The news that House Democrats will make a new offer to Trump comes one day after a letter began circulating from centrist Democrats calling on Pelosi to offer a vote on Trump’s border wall in exchange for his support to reopen the government. The wall is unlikely to pass the Democratic-controlled House.

“What we’re trying to say is we need to return to regular order, we need to open the government, we need to take these issues to committee, we need to analyze them in a facts-based way,” said Rep. Elaine Luria, D-Va., the lawmaker who has taken the lead on drafting the letter. “In my letter, I’ve suggested a timeline, and I’m moving forward with some other colleagues who share the same views.”

But Luria, who represents a district Trump won in 2016, dismissed any notion that those on the letter were breaking with their leadership.

“This (letter) is very much in line with what we were just discussing in the caucus meeting,” Luria said after Democrats met Wednesday morning.

“I don’t think there’s any division” within the caucus, Luria said.

JavierHTx 01-23-2019 01:25 PM
Re: House Dems push new border security plan as shutdown staggers on
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 730020)
Because they need to use us for 2020 elections. Dems didnt want to talk about DACA this term. It is just being talked about because it is the only way out of the shutdown, but doesnt mean that was Dems preferred path.
What exactly are they going to negotiate with Republicans if there’s a Democratic president. It’s not like they were able to get it done with Obama.

It’s now or never and they prefer never.

davidrellis 01-23-2019 01:25 PM
Re: House Dems push new border security plan as shutdown staggers on
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jorgeag92 (Post 730020)
Because they need to use us for 2020 elections. Dems didnt want to talk about DACA this term. It is just being talked about because it is the only way out of the shutdown, but doesnt mean that was Dems preferred path.
Just like they used us for 2018, right?

jwxie518 01-23-2019 01:31 PM
Re: House Dems push new border security plan as shutdown staggers on
 
I am guessing this is it. We are back to the shadow.

Sogh. So much excitments for nothing. Never mind.

catportal 01-23-2019 01:39 PM
Re: House Dems push new border security plan as shutdown staggers on
 
Why are house Dems doing anything at all? Wait for Senate... unless you are trying to keep DACA as a 2020 issue.... hmm.

DogJuiceMan 01-23-2019 01:44 PM
Re: House Dems push new border security plan as shutdown staggers on
 
This will never pass so it's meant to not have dreamer protection. The ones who are supposed to put up dreamer protections are the Republicans.


It's to show they care about border security and reopening government.

cmeow 01-23-2019 01:57 PM
Re: House Dems push new border security plan as shutdown staggers on
 
Both sides doing the same thing. Offering bills that won't pass. Republicans want to show dems won't compromise, dems trying to show they want to open government and want border security.

What a shitshow.


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