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hDreamer1988 12-01-2021 02:06 PM

Manchin knows the legalization program must be removed from the reconciliation bill
 
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The Democrats passed their Build Back Better reconciliation bill in the House without a single Republican vote, and they aren’t likely to get any Republican votes in the Senate either. Thus, whether it passes in the Senate depends on whether all 50 Senate Democrats vote for it.

At least one Democratic Senator has serious reservations about it, and I don’t think he is the only one.

Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) is concerned about a number of things in the bill, but I am going to discuss only his concern about the bill’s immigration parole provision, which would provide temporary lawful status and work authorization to more than 7 million undocumented aliens who have been living here continuously for more than ten years.

Manchin is not opposed to a legalization program; in fact, he has said that he is “totally committed to trying to help” immigrants — but he does not think we should be establishing a legalization program while we are in the midst of a border crisis.

To be talking about a legalization program without border security is ludicrous. The average person turns on the TV and sees what's going on at the border, and it scares the bejesus out of him. If migrants think they can make an illegal entry and then get all the benefits that American citizens are entitled to, they're going to continue to come.

Manchin says previous immigration and amnesty proposals have included significant border security provisions to gain support from moderate Democrats and some Republicans. He would be open to that kind of deal.

That was the approach used to get bi-partisan support for the last big legalization program, which was established by the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA).

Manchin also has said that he is not going to vote to overrule the Senate parliamentarian if she recommends removing the parole provision from the bill because it doesn’t come within the rules for reconciliation.

The reconciliation process was established by the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, to permit expedited consideration of certain tax, spending, and debt limit legislation.

Support from his constituents

Manchin is a West Virginia senator, and according to a Rasmussen poll released on Nov. 22, West Virginia voters overwhelmingly oppose the legalization provision in the reconciliation bill.

Survey findings –

79 percent of likely West Virginia voters are concerned about the current level of illegal immigration;
70 percent think the federal government should adopt stricter policies to reduce the flow of illegal crossings at the Mexican border;
Just 17 percent approve of the parole provision that would offer 10 years of work authorization and temporary legal status to more than 7 million illegal immigrants;
Even among Democrats, only 33 percent support it without extra enforcement to gain control of the country’s border with Mexico or to deter future illegal migration;
64 percent believe that it is an amnesty provision that would encourage more illegal crossings at the border; and
65 percent would vote against a member of Congress who supports this provision without the addition of border security measures to address the current level of illegal border crossings.
West Virginia voters aren’t the only ones who oppose the reconciliation bill for various reasons. A Rasmussen poll issued on Nov. 29 found that 51 percent of likely U.S. voters oppose the bill. Only 42 percent support it.

Other reasons for rejecting the legalization program

The Democrats are basing their legalization program on the parole provision in Section1182(d)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which provides the DHS Secretary with broad, discretionary authority to allow aliens who may not otherwise be admissible to the country under our immigration laws to enter and remain in the United States temporarily.

As I have noted before, the parole program in the reconciliation bill would violate restrictions in the law. The Democrats could have included an amendment to make their program permissible under the authority granted by the statutory parole provision, but they didn’t.

What’s more, the federal immigration system can’t handle the applications it already has. As of June 30, the backlog for employment authorization was 1.36 million applications. The Democrats should provide the resources to handle that caseload before adding 7 million more.

West Virginia voters overwhelmingly back paid leave proposal: poll
Finally, there would be no numerical limits on how many undocumented immigrants would be able to obtain temporary lawful status and work authorization. This could become the largest legalization program America has ever had, and Democrats are trying to pass it without bipartisan support by using a reconciliation process enacted to expedite the passage of budgetary measures.

I will be very surprised if Manchin is the only Democratic Senator who votes against the reconciliation bill if the legalization program is not taken out of it.
https://thehill.com/opinion/immigrat...moved-from-the

hDreamer1988 12-01-2021 02:09 PM

Re: Manchin knows the legalization program must be removed from the reconciliation bi
 
The article makes many valid points and highlights key mistakes the Dems have made with this poorly thought-out attempt. It leads me to question how serious they are about passing reform. This could just be another dramatic performance to get the donations rolling in since they feel they can blame the Parlimentarian for the immigration provision being stripped out.

Hallowpoint1911 12-01-2021 04:21 PM

Re: Manchin knows the legalization program must be removed from the reconciliation bi
 
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Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 765997)
The article makes many valid points and highlights key mistakes the Dems have made with this poorly thought-out attempt. It leads me to question how serious they are about passing reform. This could just be another dramatic performance to get the donations rolling in since they feel they can blame the Parlimentarian for the immigration provision being stripped out.

Makes sense, however, Dems need some sort of win otherwise they’ll get destroyed come 2022. So kicking the can the road can be used against them.

tyler129 12-01-2021 04:50 PM

Re: Manchin knows the legalization program must be removed from the reconciliation bi
 
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Originally Posted by hDreamer1988 (Post 765997)
they feel they can blame the Parlimentarian for the immigration provision being stripped out.

blame the person that they hired:lol:

made4u 12-01-2021 04:52 PM

Re: Manchin knows the legalization program must be removed from the reconciliation bi
 
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Outsider626 12-01-2021 05:28 PM

Re: Manchin knows the legalization program must be removed from the reconciliation bi
 
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Outsider626 12-01-2021 05:30 PM

Re: Manchin knows the legalization program must be removed from the reconciliation bi
 
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Originally Posted by made4u (Post 766001)
Would u fellas marry a bbw girl to get out of this situation? Or your ego wont let you?

Why bbw? Don't narrow your choices.

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made4u 12-01-2021 06:10 PM

Re: Manchin knows the legalization program must be removed from the reconciliation bi
 
Lol. That gif is funny.
But think about it...they will be happy to go with you to the local buffet and they are pretty sturdy.

Hallowpoint1911 12-01-2021 06:19 PM

Re: Manchin knows the legalization program must be removed from the reconciliation bi
 
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Originally Posted by made4u (Post 766001)
Would u fellas marry a bbw girl to get out of this situation? Or your ego wont let you?

Interesting, would you marry anyone to fix your situation? Me, personally, I’m against it.

made4u 12-01-2021 06:27 PM

Re: Manchin knows the legalization program must be removed from the reconciliation bi
 
I dont want to have daca and trump as president anymore tbh


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