The Democrats' total capitulation on the border
 

https://theweek.com/articles/823307/...aVoITrAKj9OLqk

Republican and Democratic lawmakers last night reportedly came to an agreement on border enforcement funding to avert another government shutdown before the Friday deadline. Yet after all this drama, it's unclear if Democrats accomplished much beyond virtue signaling to their base. If anything, they may have given Trump a green light to forge ahead with his draconian interior enforcement agenda without any meaningful oversight of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Details of the deal are still trickling in but it seems clear that after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi pledged not to give Trump even a "dollar" for his wall, Democrats agreed to hand him $1.375 billion to build a 55-mile long barrier in the Rio Grande Valley. They're trying to spin this as mere "pedestrian fencing." Trump, who is never shy of staring a gift horse in the mouth, is saying it’s not enough. But it's pretty clear that Democrats gave in.

In addition, they agreed to hand the Department of Homeland Security an additional $1.7 billion for border security, including technology at ports of entry, more officers and, as an afterthought, some humanitarian aid.

Handing Trump some wall money might have been worth it if Democrats had got something in return like legalizing the DREAMers (folks who've grown up in America after being brought to the country without proper authorization as minors) and others whose temporary protected status Trump scrapped. But Democrats failed to even put this on the table despite many hints by Republicans that they would consider a DREAMer-for-wall deal. The Democratic Party seems to be more interested in rallying their base with the issue than actually solving it.

Even worse, Democrats capitulated to the administration's demand for maintaining its inflated detention bed capacity to house unauthorized immigrants, the lynchpin of its draconian enforcement actions.

Negotiations broke down over the weekend because Democrats were insisting on limiting funding for "only" 35,000 detention beds with the stipulation that no more than 16,500 would be used for housing immigrants picked up from the interior, i.e. not at the border. This was a very modest attempt to restore some sanity — and humanity — to this administration's interior enforcement policies given that the first thing that Trump did upon assuming office was scrap former President Barack Obama's priority enforcement program. This program, implemented at the tail end of Obama's term after he'd set deportation records, confined ICE to rounding up only those aliens in the interior who had criminal records while leaving others alone. But Trump made everyone fair game, including those who've lived peacefully in the country for years.

To aid Trump's efforts, the Republican-controlled Congress gave him funds for around 40,500 detention beds. This represented about a 6,500 increase over previous years. But Trump exceeded even that inflated authorization, maintaining a daily population of 48,000 detained immigrants — including 20,000 from the interior.

Where did that money come from? Basically, by raiding the Federal Emergency Management Agency and other agencies within the Department of Homeland Security, arguably a violation of the Anti-Deficiency Act, the federal law that prohibits agencies from diverting funds not explicitly authorized by Congress. All in all, DHS spent $4.1 billion on ICE's detention and removal operations in 2018, a 30 percent spike over the $3.2 billion spent in 2016. This is an unconscionable waste given that border apprehensions have dropped precipitously over the last decade, Trump's fear mongering about the migrant caravan notwithstanding.

Trump says that any cutbacks in this detention capacity would force him to release violent aliens. But that's simply not true. An analysis last summer by Syracuse University's Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse found that 75 percent of the immigrants typically detained have no prior convictions or have been engaged in only minor offenses like traffic violations. This means that even if Trump's detention capacity were cut in less than half, no violent offenders would need to be released.

But that didn't stop Trump from demanding funding for 52,000 beds during the budget negotiations. The Democrats didn't give him that but they agreed to fund 40,520 beds — or 5,520 over their original offer and pretty much what the Republican-controlled Congress handed Trump last year. Worse, this is not a hard statuary cap so Trump can keep trying to exceed it by ginning up funds from elsewhere as he's been doing. (It's unclear right now if Democrats are insisting on any limits on housing interior detentions.)

Democrats are trying to sell this as a reasonable compromise by claiming that this funding level represents a 17-percent cut in detention over current levels. But Trump was maintaining those levels using unauthorized funds. In other words, far from calling out Trump for illegally exceeding Congressional limits, Democrats are using Trump's detention levels as their official baseline.

So, all in all, Trump got more money for a border barrier, enhanced border security, and increased detention capacity. What did Democrats get? Absolutely nothing. Zilch. Nada.

Re: The Democrats' total capitulation on the border
 

That's rather shitty when you put it that way. Surely Pelosi has some sort of plan...

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ahahahaha.

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On face value this looks super bad but truthfully, it's pretty much the same deal they offered Trump before the longest shutdown in US history. I think this deal cuts a little bit wall/fence funding too. Before the shutdown the dems offered 1.6 billion.

It's probably why Trump doesn't like it. Let's see how this plays out.

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Won't matter what Republicans "hint at". Trump won't agree to a DACA fix, we've been down this road before.

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the hard hitting facts hurt don't they? But they offered the solution when they knew it won't happen and didn't offer one when there was a possibility of a deal.

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So far nothing has had a single foot of new fencing. Anything new built was authorized from obama years. Dems are giving TRUMP 55 new miles of wall.

What does Trump have to do with Dems giving 55 miles of wall for nothing? They could just give 0 and force Trump to counter.

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They were going to give him that before the shutdown happened. This deal in February is giving him a bit less than the deal in December 2018. In theory, Trump would reject this because he's getting less but who knows. No one really has the appetite for another shutdown.

I'm not saying giving Trump a border wall/fence is good or not. I'm just trying to speculate if Trump will accept it or not.

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Democrats don't work for Dreamers, some of you seriously need to get this up your rears. You think the Democrats OWN you for them being in power and they need to pay YOU what they own. They don't at all. Hate to say it but we are here to beg, don't like it well, you can always keep living your life the way you are or simply deport out of here.



Republicans on the other hands feel the other way, they feel we own THEM. For them ending DACA was the BEST thing Trump could have done for us because its one less issue for them to tackle.

In other words, Democrats care more for the people who can actually vote for them than a group of illegal bad hombres who can't seem to have any conviction.


I think the most selfish moment I saw on this forum was when the tax bill was up for voting and some dreamers here were yelling

"TAX BILL FOR DACA RELIEF!!"

Seriously, would have fuck up millions of people, voting people, to save your asses?

Oh look, it still passed and no daca relief

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If Trump won't agree to a DACA fix for $25b wall money, what makes you think he's gonna agree to it for $1.3b?