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Cris_32 09-25-2014 07:31 PM

Military EA
 
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...ve-in-Military

by TONY LEE 25 Sep 2014, 3:05 PM PDT 244 POST A COMMENT
On the day Attorney General Eric Holder announced his resignation, President Barack Obama enacted an executive action on Thursday to allow certain DREAMers to serve in the military and be put on an expedited path to citizenship.
Obama vowed to hold off on broad executive amnesty that would also potentially grant temporary work permits to millions of illegal immigrants until after the midterm elections to help Senate Democrats retain the Senate. According to the Military Times, this executive action will expand MAVNI (Military Accessions in the National Interest) "to target foreign nationals with high-demand skills, mostly rare foreign language expertise, or specialized health care training."
The program, which admits foreigners with specialized medical or language skills, will now be "open to immigrants without a proper visa if they came to the U.S. with their parents before age 16" and have been approved for Obama's 2012 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.
The MAVNI program "is capped at 1,500 recruits per year," and Obama's executive action "may be the first phase of a broader government-wide effort to ease pressure on immigrants and create new paths to citizenship," according to the Times, because "after entering military service, foreigners are eligible for expedited U.S. citizenship." The Times noted that "since 2001, more than 92,000 foreign-born service members have become citizens while serving in uniform."
In May, Jessica Wright, the Acting Under Secretary for Personnel and Readiness at the Pentagon, testified before a Senate subcommittee hearing in Chicago that the Obama administration was working to expand MAVNI, which started in 2008, to include DREAMers. Soon after, Pentagon officials reportedly reached an agreement to allow some DREAMers in the program, but the Department of Defense did not make a formal announcement until Thursday, when it notified Congress "that the program, which was due to expire at the end of this fiscal year, will be extended for another two years and will for the first time include DACA-status immigrants."
According to the Military Times, "the military services are not required to accept recruits under MAVNI." The publication notes that "in recent years, the Army has been the only service to accept a significant number of recruits under the program. The Air Force has accepted only a few and the Navy and Marine Corps have not sought MAVNI recruits in recent years."
Pro-amnesty advocates who want more from Obama on immigration were still less than pleased. The pro-amnesty America's Voice group called the move "weak," saying "this foray into executive action is a fig leaf that pretends to help Dreamers but will, in fact, help virtually no one."
"The Obama Administration should go well beyond the MAVNI program and expand DACA and enlistment policies to include as many DREAMers and aspiring Americans possible," the group said in a statement. "If today’s measure is any indication of the type of executive actions we can expect to see from the President after the elections, we are not impressed."

Severity 09-25-2014 08:19 PM

Re: Military EA
 
I'm very disappointed with how narrow this EO seems to be, but I'm happy for whoever can benefit.

Cris_32 09-25-2014 09:27 PM

Re: Military EA
 
Will see where all this will end up

drvenom 09-25-2014 10:12 PM

Re: Military EA
 
Well quite a few here wanted to enlist, here is your chance lol. F-that, I wouldn't join the military nowadays.

iDream 09-25-2014 10:15 PM

Re: Military EA
 
Haha theyre trying to put us on the frontline against ISIS.

Cris_32 09-25-2014 10:27 PM

Re: Military EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drvenom (Post 541791)
Well quite a few here wanted to enlist, here is your chance lol. F-that, I wouldn't join the military nowadays.

Yu have to know certain language or have a medical degree not anyone can trust me otherwise I would be at the recruiter office tomorrow

Severity 09-25-2014 11:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cris_32 (Post 541797)
Yu have to know certain language or have a medical degree not anyone can trust me otherwise I would be at the recruiter office tomorrow

The main reason why I'm so disappointed is because I don't feel like he will revisit the military options with another EO.
If he did, I'd most likely sign up the moment it was available. But that's not the case.

Demise 09-25-2014 11:26 PM

Re: Military EA
 
Why is it that every time something gets done by Obama it's always a quarter measure. Alright, he extended MAVNI, but:
You are still required to have the medical or language skills required.
The cap is still at 1,500.

So effectively unless you're from some place that has low amounts of immigration to US, and speak said language (you have to be from a country that speaks the desired language, and speak said language), you're not getting in. Also, you are in competition with all the legal non-immigrants who also want to enlist via MAVNI. Another part being - as a non-citizen you will have no security clearance, so shit jobs await.

How many people do you think will be eligible to benefit from this? I'd say maybe 3-4 thousand from half a million that got DACA are eligible. How many do you think will enlist? Signing up for 6 years of service is a huge leap forward (even if I was able to, I really don't know if I would, it would feel like leaving my entire life behind, it would feel like getting a fake identity).

Another part being - only US Army actually accepts MAVNI recruits. Air Force accepted a few and they have no official releases about it. Other branches (ex. Navy) don't accept at all. US Army are the guys sitting in bases in Afghanistan and other volatile nations. Those are the first guys to get shot at, especially with ISIS thrashing about in the region.

What Obama should do instead is to allow DACA, TPS, and DED holders to enlist the same way US permanent residents can. It would only require an Executive Order under the same section which authorized MAVNI - but who expects a certain democrat president to not be a wuss?

Cris_32 09-26-2014 12:05 AM

Re: Military EA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Demise (Post 541802)
Why is it that every time something gets done by Obama it's always a quarter measure. Alright, he extended MAVNI, but:
You are still required to have the medical or language skills required.
The cap is still at 1,500.

So effectively unless you're from some place that has low amounts of immigration to US, and speak said language (you have to be from a country that speaks the desired language, and speak said language), you're not getting in. Also, you are in competition with all the legal non-immigrants who also want to enlist via MAVNI. Another part being - as a non-citizen you will have no security clearance, so shit jobs await.

How many people do you think will be eligible to benefit from this? I'd say maybe 3-4 thousand from half a million that got DACA are eligible. How many do you think will enlist? Signing up for 6 years of service is a huge leap forward (even if I was able to, I really don't know if I would, it would feel like leaving my entire life behind, it would feel like getting a fake identity).

Another part being - only US Army actually accepts MAVNI recruits. Air Force accepted a few and they have no official releases about it. Other branches (ex. Navy) don't accept at all. US Army are the guys sitting in bases in Afghanistan and other volatile nations. Those are the first guys to get shot at, especially with ISIS thrashing about in the region.

What Obama should do instead is to allow DACA, TPS, and DED holders to enlist the same way US permanent residents can. It would only require an Executive Order under the same section which authorized MAVNI - but who expects a certain democrat president to not be a wuss?

This was not by obama this was the pentagon obama did not Order this

Demise 09-26-2014 01:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cris_32 (Post 541804)
This was not by obama this was the pentagon obama did not Order this

Same as DACA really. Courtesy of Janet Napolitano.


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