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lilbawler2001 04-25-2012 10:31 PM

Marco Rubio’s Dream Act alternative a challenge for Obama on illegal immigration
 
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Gaby Pacheco, a vocal immigrant activist, accepted a tantalizing invitation last week from an unlikely source: Republican Sen. Marco Rubio wanted her to help craft a bill that could legalize the children of some illegal immigrants. Two hours later, Pacheco and other activists got a different pitch from their more familiar White House allies. Be wary of Rubio and his plan, two of President Obama’s top advisers told them in a meeting. It wouldn’t go far enough and wasn’t likely to succeed.


But if Obama does not at least try to work with Rubio, he could risk losing a centerpiece of his appeal to Hispanic voters — that he is their fiercest ally in Washington and that the GOP is to blame for lack of action on fixing the country’s immigration ills.
White House resistance to Rubio threatens to escalate criticism from Obama allies frustrated that he was unable to deliver on a broad immigration overhaul and angry that his administration has deported more than 1 million illegal immigrants.



Several conservatives have already blasted Rubio’s plan as a form of “amnesty,” but aides to the senator say he is lobbying key players and media personalities on the right to hold their fire.




Rubio’s outreach to Pacheco — who was brought to the United States illegally when she was 8 — and other young undocumented immigrants came after they had been asking for months without success for a chance to meet with Obama. The senator first called Pacheco on her cellphone, and the two spoke for about a half-hour. He later met with a small group at Miami-Dade College.
“He said, ‘If you feel at any point that this is something you guys cannot support, let me know,’ ” Pacheco recalled.



the president’s challenge has been evident in recent days during tense encounters between top White House aides and Hispanic leaders, who have continued to press for the president to simply sign an executive order preventing the deportations of any people who would qualify for the Dream Act. In one heated session last week between Congressional Hispanic Caucus members and domestic policy adviser Cecilia Munoz, Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-Calif.) grew so frustrated that she walked out, according to people familiar with the meeting.


In their meeting with Pacheco and other young activists, Munoz and senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett offered warnings that going along with Rubio’s plan put at risk other efforts to pass the full Dream Act with a path to citizenship. They told the activists that Rubio had not demonstrated he could win support from fellow Republicans and that the president would use his clout to push an immigration plan next year( yawn). “They said, ‘Be careful we’re not lowering the bar. Citizenship is important,’ ” Pacheco recalled


But Pacheco, who remains undocumented even after graduating from college, said Obama should see the situation as more urgent. “We’re at a point of desperation, at a point where we cannot continue to live the way
we’ve been living,” she said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...T_story_1.html

iDream 04-25-2012 10:35 PM

Re: Marco Rubio’s Dream Act alternative a challenge for Obama on illegal immigration
 
They don't care about us.. Thats a fact.

ECW 04-25-2012 10:39 PM

Re: Marco Rubio’s Dream Act alternative a challenge for Obama on illegal immigration
 
Obama has done nothing but brought us to a point of desperation. He thought the Hispanic votes was going to be a walk in the park this time around, Rubio got him fucked up. I kinda getting weary of all these articles now. WHERE'S THE BILL, WHERE'S THE BILL, WHERE'S THE BILL!!

JohannBernoulli1667 04-25-2012 10:54 PM

Re: Marco Rubio’s Dream Act alternative a challenge for Obama on illegal immigration
 
Damn this is argument is heating up!!! I think it is getting even more interesting than 2010.

Dres2011 04-25-2012 10:57 PM

Re: Marco Rubio’s Dream Act alternative a challenge for Obama on illegal immigration
 
I like this political storm.

like Givemeachance said.....

IF SB 1070 is upheld by the supreme court, Whats there to stop states from giving us documents?

Smooth 04-25-2012 10:59 PM

Re: Marco Rubio’s Dream Act alternative a challenge for Obama on illegal immigration
 
Hijos de su puta madre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know it would be that fucking lady, Cecilia Munoz. I fucking hate her. She tries to cover for Obama all the time on immigration. WTF Does she know. Guys, promise me something. Whether you support or oppose the bill once it comes out, BE VOCAL.

I am sorry moderators. But, this shit pisses me the fuck off.

However, I think Pacheco will be a good voice. She seems like a pragmatist.

I fucking hate Munoz. Rubio has clearly said that what he intends to propose would not bar us from citizenship. We want to come out of the shadows now you fucking B#$%^&*()!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't fuck that up by downplaying a possible reasonable alternativE!!!!!!!!!!

JohannBernoulli1667 04-25-2012 11:25 PM

Re: Marco Rubio’s Dream Act alternative a challenge for Obama on illegal immigration
 
Marco Rubio is really playing smart. He is teaming up with REAL dreamers. When the Democrats try to bash his bill, he will have DREAMERS to testify why his bill (not really a bill yet) is what WE want. We just want some sort of legalization screw citizenship. I just want to go on with my life!

greentea 04-25-2012 11:40 PM

Re: Marco Rubio’s Dream Act alternative a challenge for Obama on illegal immigration
 
Dream Act 2.0 is like the biggest chess piece I've ever seen.

Let's see who makes what moves. Rubio seems to be outplaying everyone at the moment, including their candidate.

immigration truth 04-25-2012 11:45 PM

Re: Marco Rubio’s Dream Act alternative a challenge for Obama on illegal immigration
 
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Originally Posted by greentea (Post 252422)
Dream Act 2.0 is like the biggest chess piece I've ever seen.

Let's see who makes what moves. Rubio seems to be outplaying everyone at the moment, including their candidate.

It is and if we are lucky then maybe next month he will introduce the legislation. He said he wanted to introduce it by summer and passed by fall. Now as for the likeliness of that, who knows?

Smooth 04-26-2012 12:17 AM

Re: Marco Rubio’s Dream Act alternative a challenge for Obama on illegal immigration
 
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Originally Posted by greentea (Post 252422)
Dream Act 2.0 is like the biggest chess piece I've ever seen.

Let's see who makes what moves. Rubio seems to be outplaying everyone at the moment, including their candidate.

Outplaying? Yes, but outplaying unintentionally? Some people from the left are responding really bad, and it is making them look like assholes. Rubio seems to be occupied trying to do his own thing while some people on the left are screwing themselves over. Rubio seems like he is not even trying to make the left look bad. Some of his ideological opponents are doing it for him! hahahahaah!

I am telling you guys. This country has some of the dumbest leftists in the world.


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