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Lyric200x 12-19-2010 12:55 AM

Re: What the Hell is going on with this Country?
 
I actually support immigration law reform that will make it easier for people to immigrate to the U.S. legally. I came to this site to gain better understanding of your cause but I have not seen any real justifications for the Dream Act. I sympathize with the situation many people who are in the country illegally face but it undermines our entire immigration system to grant individuals citizenship who have entered the country illegally for what ever reason.

Even a child knows --Honesty is the best policy.

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Originally Posted by Dream becomes Reality (Post 200110)
Another idle individual that has nothing better to do than writing antagonizing posts on a Dream Act website, how sad!


ppl_man 12-19-2010 01:00 AM

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Lyric200x, I am afraid that you are missing out people's feeling about chain immigration
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I actually support immigration law reform that will make it easier for people to immigrate to the U.S. legally
A lot of people are not happy with this mass chain immigration (for the legals)

One reason why we have undocumented children here is because it is the State's responsibility to provide education to all children.

Randy L 12-19-2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ppl_man (Post 200126)
call the police, Randy, but they can't do shit. So what do you do? huh?

My point is, you'd piss more people off, people who CAN vote. You have more voters thinkning something along the lines of...There's those damn illegal again, demanding we take care of them, demanding rights, demand, DEMand, DEMAND!!!

That won't help you.

lostpath 12-19-2010 01:09 AM

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We need more exposure on this we only had a couple of months to get to this point and for most of that time the opposition throughout lies and too many people believed it.

Randy L 12-19-2010 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PASStheDREAM (Post 200156)
Randyl - Get The Fuck Out Of This Site . Your Not A Dreamer So Get Your Nasty Fucking Comments Out Of Here Dipshit.

Case in point ^^^

PASStheDREAM 12-19-2010 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Randy L (Post 200123)
If a hundred people came to your house and started screaming and demanding you give them things, what would you think? What would you do?


I understand what your saying, and trust me I would feel the same way. But what if that person came in as a child by no fault of their own they should not be blamed for their parents mistake. Its selfish of you to even say such idiotic things. While so many Americans take alot of things for granted many undocumented kids are working their butts off through college or working harder in high school. They deserve rights as well, what no matter how hard they work their suppose to do " immigrant jobs" just because of the fact that their immigrants? Honestly get out this site this place isnt for you .

AL 12-19-2010 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lyric200x (Post 200103)
I beg to differ. The Senate voted to protect the interests of American citizens which I applaud. What is going on with this country? It's waking up and protecting its real citizens.

So you think that the idea of stopping legislature such as the 911 responder bill and Dream act is democracy at work. No the senate did not vote on anything today, they decided to not even debate the issue. You know debate, as in a real democracy

PASStheDREAM 12-19-2010 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ppl_man (Post 200016)
Nick is right. Murkowski was a surprise. She actually voted yes.
Anyway.

I urge everyone to read this.
http://dreamact.info/forum/showpost....03&postcount=8

But we have to do everything. Next time when we fail again, do we blame ourselves not calling them????
We have to use all available tactics to take down the capitol hills.

I urge everyone prepare to send email to Durbin and Reid, and urge them to work with the Republican later.
I know Durbin will continue with the conversation. But he has other priorities too. So we have to keep the pressure on him.

And again, please thanks Durbin for his hard work.

Yes she was, and I'm glad she voted yes. And your right I agree with you as well.

PASStheDREAM 12-19-2010 01:27 AM

Re: What the Hell is going on with this Country?
 
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Originally Posted by ppl_man (Post 200016)
Nick is right. Murkowski was a surprise. She actually voted yes.
Anyway.

I urge everyone to read this.
http://dreamact.info/forum/showpost....03&postcount=8

But we have to do everything. Next time when we fail again, do we blame ourselves not calling them????
We have to use all available tactics to take down the capitol hills.

I urge everyone prepare to send email to Durbin and Reid, and urge them to work with the Republican later.
I know Durbin will continue with the conversation. But he has other priorities too. So we have to keep the pressure on him.

And again, please thanks Durbin for his hard work.

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Originally Posted by Lyric200x (Post 200135)
I actually support immigration law reform that will make it easier for people to immigrate to the U.S. legally. I came to this site to gain better understanding of your cause but I have not seen any real justifications for the Dream Act. I sympathize with the situation many people who are in the country illegally face but it undermines our entire immigration system to grant individuals citizenship who have entered the country illegally for what ever reason.

Even a child knows --Honesty is the best policy.


I agree with Immigration reform but I also agree with the Dream Act. And yes the U.S should protect it's citizens, and that is correct any other nation should as well. BUT 54 to 70 % of the population support this legislation and if most americans support it then the senate should as well. And if you read the newer bills it does not give automatic citizenship, it would take 20-25 years till we get citizenship. You have no argument , so I truly don't understand your comment. This immigration system is broken , and yes lets fix it , great start with the border, cool. BUT this should have been their first priority, because these are kids who are currently living in a limbo, you "sympathize" but you don't know what its like, you don't know what its like when in the only country you know as your home, you can't drive or go to college.

Stop being a troll and leave this site, you came here to understand us better yet you write nasty comments I dont know why since we already lost. Let us complain, get angry, cry our away. leave us alone and go find something to do. For tomorrow we fight harder and those who voted no will feel our wrath in 2012.

AL 12-19-2010 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PASStheDREAM (Post 200173)
leave us alone and go find something to do. For tomorrow we fight harder and those who voted no will feel our wrath in 2012.

Education and service, not deportation would be our motto.....


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