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i think we will eventually get legalized.. what about next generation of "dreamers "?

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There will always be an immigration issue. Current DACAers will be remembered as the original dreamers :/

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Agreed. There will always be dreamers. Technically we aren't the original as there are older Dreamers out there that are in their late 30s and early 40s that didnt meet the DACA requirement. However, we got very lucky as Obama was in the seat and saved us from deportation. This gave people awareness and DACA came into place. But yes overall there will always be Dreamers.

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I'm not sure there will be dreamers in the future because of the technology at the border increasing and the tracking that ICE has.

Also because of prioritized enforcement, recent overstays will be targeted first.

We are likely the last generation of dreamers, at least there won't be 10K+ dreamers in future generations.

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Probably a good idea to stop them coming... but hey, there is no DA yet. I am going to be afraid the future legislation will have a hard cutoff and it will be something like prior to 2015, so tell y' family thinking about bringing little kids over - DON'T. If there is no solution for them, they will just become us and it ain't fun.

But that's my view, whatever.

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I wouldn't wish this hell on any future dreamers.

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You worry about yourself, they will worry about themselves

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There will probably be a small population, but very negligible numbers, and we are talking about the distant future, and most of them haven't even been born yet. They won't know people already lived the struggle they might be living. There won't be that many because new laws will be put in place including surveillance, and increased border security.

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future dreamers will lobby the current dreamers who will be in Congress, and this time we will see once upon a time dreamers vote to stall legislation lmao

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no its not, if they legalized them 1986, they can easily legalize a much smaller population in2018

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This is why the ultimate goal is a comprehensive immigration reform. The current system is tragically restrictive, and actually promotes EWI and visa overstay. Make immigration more reasonable (guest worker + seriously ramp up the employment-based & investment-based permanent immigration), and there won't be another generation of us going through this bullshit.

My guess is the Baby Boomer racist assholes will change their tune once they realize there aren't enough white kids with good salary to pay for their retirement & benefits.

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This is really why US Immigration law needs a statute of limitations. Lets say if the government doesn't catch you in 15 years and you're not a criminal you can adjust.

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if we legalize it would also mean more ice and border security meaning there would be way less dreamers. Actually, there is already a low flow of new immigrants coming anyways. With more border security, less dreamers

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They need to do away with the 3/10 yr bans for all childhood arrivals. If a child was brought across the border before they could realistically be held responsible for that decision they should be able to cross back without the ban even if they are over 18 when they decide to go back. I think this would drastically decrease future dreamer population in addition to the previously mentioned increased border security/enforcement.

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I think they should do away with bans for everyone. I'm sure a lot of people would just self deport if they had the ability to apply come back legally without the ridiculous wait.

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100% border security would only stop 50% of illegal immigration. I, like many others on this forum, came on a plane with a visa. Realistically there's not much you can do to stop people coming to the US legally with their children and then staying here/leaving them here.

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You can change the laws and make it hard as fuck for someone to obtain legal status if they are living in the united states with a tourist visa .

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But... we already have those laws, haha. That's how I'm here posting on this forum?

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Its called mandatory e-verify. no job offers = people would self-deport

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one step at a time.