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Swim19 10-20-2019 12:29 PM

Re: Democrats dig in ahead of Supreme Court ruling on 'Dreamers'
 
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Originally Posted by Outsider626 (Post 742096)
Will they make a final decision on November 12? Trying to figure out when to send my renewal...


Decision won't come until May/June 2020

Outsider626 10-20-2019 02:11 PM

Re: Democrats dig in ahead of Supreme Court ruling on 'Dreamers'
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 742105)
Decision won't come until May/June 2020

Than i'll wait cuz i expire next August. Will send renewal late April.

IamAman 10-20-2019 02:27 PM

Re: Democrats dig in ahead of Supreme Court ruling on 'Dreamers'
 
The problem with a stop gap measure is that historically, they never come back to fix things. That's the case with a lot of bills, not just immigration. A lot of times you get one shot at it to do it right so be careful what you ask for if you support things like the bridge act.

DogJuiceMan 10-20-2019 06:12 PM

Re: Democrats dig in ahead of Supreme Court ruling on 'Dreamers'
 
"Nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution." old russian proverb

Afridi786 10-20-2019 09:34 PM

Re: Democrats dig in ahead of Supreme Court ruling on 'Dreamers'
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 742110)
The problem with a stop gap measure is that historically, they never come back to fix things. That's the case with a lot of bills, not just immigration. A lot of times you get one shot at it to do it right so be careful what you ask for if you support things like the bridge act.

I'd take a permanent DACA.

beingoflight 10-20-2019 09:46 PM

Re: Democrats dig in ahead of Supreme Court ruling on 'Dreamers'
 
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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 742110)
The problem with a stop gap measure is that historically, they never come back to fix things. That's the case with a lot of bills, not just immigration. A lot of times you get one shot at it to do it right so be careful what you ask for if you support things like the bridge act.

This is more than true, we already had one of (if not the only) best chance to get this fixed for good during the last government shutdown, stupid organizations like United we dream messed it all up with the legalization for all or nothing bullshit.

jwxie518 10-20-2019 10:11 PM

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If the demoncracks would keep the govt shut longer, we would have a permeant solution by now.

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-20-2019 11:00 PM

Re: Democrats dig in ahead of Supreme Court ruling on 'Dreamers'
 
Reminder

2017, September

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-to-save-daca/

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Trump said that he and Congress are “fairly close” to a deal and that Republican leaders Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.) and Sen. Mitch McConnell (Ky.) are “very much on board” with a deal that would address DACA. The agreement must include “massive border security,” Trump said in response to shouted questions about whether he had reached a deal on the terms Schumer and Pelosi had described.
what about all those immigration bills republicans couldn't even agree on?

If you think groups like UWD are single handedly destroying our chances, you are gravely mistaken.

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-20-2019 11:08 PM

Re: Democrats dig in ahead of Supreme Court ruling on 'Dreamers'
 
September 13, 2017 Trump "Trump said that he and Congress are “fairly close” to a deal"

September 14, 2017 Trump "No deal was made last night on DACA. Massive border security would have to be agreed to in exchange for consent. Would be subject to vote."

do you guys seriously not see who is the problem here?

Not even a week, and Trump changed his mind.


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And all he had to do was accept a 10- to 14-year path to citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants brought to the United States at a young age.

That deal has been on the table for more than a month now: Trump gives Democrats a path to citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers; Democrats give Trump his full $25 billion wall funding request.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...all-offer.html


Let this sink into your red sore asses, Had Trump not backed out the very next morning. Right now, in 2019 you guys would traveling to your countries with your shiny conditional permanent resident cards.

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-20-2019 11:15 PM

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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...ve-taken-didnt

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Indeed, when the Dems’ offer – wall money for DACA – came to the Senate floor, it received 54 votes, despite a veto threat from Trump. Sure, it needed 60 votes to advance, but the president’s preferred immigration alternative received just 39 votes in a chamber with a Republican majority.




https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...=firefox-b-1-d


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President Donald Trump may want to partner with “Chuck and Nancy” on a solution for Dreamers, but House Republicans say forget it — at least for now.

GOP leaders are resisting Trump’s push to salvage the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals initiative with bipartisan cooperation. Instead, at the behest of a conservative conference that loathes the Obama-era program giving work permits to young undocumented immigrants, Republicans are crafting a solution that sticks to party orthodoxy.

A GOP working group formed by House Speaker Paul Ryan held two meetings last week to discuss immigration, and sources say there was virtually no support among members for Trump’s tentative DACA deal with Democratic leaders Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Nancy Pelosi.

What does Trump do later? give us that bullshit 4 Pillars demand which caused democrats to back out. Trumps new deal at best would have given us a shitty version of DACA, which I think needed to be renewed every year, harsh immigration laws, border wall.


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