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DA User 12-27-2010 01:09 AM

With fixing, DREAM Act could still come true
 
Posted By Patrick O'Callahan on December 26, 2010 at 4:23 pm Share this
This editorial will appear in tomorrow's print edition.

It’s a shame the DREAM Act failed in the closing days of Congress even as other major bipartisan measures made it through under the wire.

But a few strategic revisions to the bill would give it a better chance of succeeding, even after Republicans take over the House in January.

The idea behind the DREAM Act is to offer legal residency – and citizenship, far down the road – to young illegal aliens on condition that they serve in the military or make substantial headway in college.

As a matter of humanity, a 20-year-old whose parents smuggled her across the border at, say, age 3 shouldn’t be set packing to a “native” country whose language she can’t speak and whose culture is foreign to her.

The current form of the bill rebuts most of the complaints about earlier versions.
It is not “back door amnesty” for 1.2 million illegal aliens. The number of young people likely to qualify is much lower. An in-depth analysis by the Migration Policy Institute concludes that only about 260,000 of those eligible would make it all the way to permanent legal status under the bill.

The bill creates high hurdles. The college requirement would screen out many of the poor. An English proficiency requirement would screen out those who can’t speak it.

The bill applies only to migrants who can prove they’ve already lived in the United States five years. Not newcomers.

The military option should need no defending: Honorable military service is a time-honored route to citizenship.

The Congressional Budget Office estimates that the current bill would increase government revenues by $2.3 billion by 2020. In normal times – which will return – the economy benefits greatly from highly skilled and well-educated workers.

Three further revisions could improve the bill’s political prospects.

The college requirement could require a four-year degree or a technical education of similar rigor.

As written, the bill would apply to anyone brought across the border under the age of 16. A 15-year-old is no stranger to his or her homeland. A lower age would be easier to defend.
Under the current bill, an illegal immigrant remains eligible for legal status after two misdemeanors.

But details count when it comes to crime. A shoplifting incident at age 14 is one thing; a pattern of criminal behavior when older is another.

Were the misdemeanors for brawling, domestic violence, gang activity or gun violations? Were they pleaded down from felonies? Is there an arrest record that points toward frequent troubles with the law? It makes a difference.

Tightening the bill would assure the public that it isn’t a gimmick for legalizing as many people as possible – and help it win passage in a more conservative Congress

Source : http://blog.thenewstribune.com/opini...ill-come-true/

Demise 12-27-2010 01:42 AM

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Oh, please even if we would put the bill to be come here before 12, and be under 20 and get citizenship after 25 years we would still have retards yelling "amnesty". Forget it, tighting it up WILL NOT earn us more votes.

DA User 12-27-2010 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 202991)
Oh, please even if we would put the bill to be come here before 12, and be under 20 and get citizenship after 25 years we would still have retards yelling "amnesty". Forget it, tighting it up WILL NOT earn us more votes.

We need a Border Security measure first.

Demise 12-27-2010 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 202995)
We need a Border Security measure first.

No fuck border security, that should be a bargaining card for the democrats, not something that republicans will get either way. We had a border security bill pass earlier this year, did any republicans come forward and say "I am open to talk about immigration reform" nope.

We had 1 solid supporter vote in favor, 1 who doesn't care and got backstabbed by her leadership and 1 who got kicked out of office. We had like 12 republicans in 07 vote in favor... Even hatch who fucking sponsored the bill in 03 backed out, come the fuck on. Why can't faux and the like scapegoat someone else?

Border security + legalization as the same bill. No more piece-meal (or at least keep the two paired). You want one more grunt on the border? Prepare to hand out some green cards.

DA User 12-27-2010 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Demise (Post 203021)
No fuck border security, that should be a bargaining card for the democrats, not something that republicans will get either way. We had a border security bill pass earlier this year, did any republicans come forward and say "I am open to talk about immigration reform" nope.

We had 1 solid supporter vote in favor, 1 who doesn't care and got backstabbed by her leadership and 1 who got kicked out of office. We had like 12 republicans in 07 vote in favor... Even hatch who fucking sponsored the bill in 03 backed out, come the fuck on. Why can't faux and the like scapegoat someone else?

Border security + legalization as the same bill. No more piece-meal (or at least keep the two paired). You want one more grunt on the border? Prepare to hand out some green cards.

DA is bound to pass, its a matter of time.

Demise 12-27-2010 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 203022)
DA is bound to pass, its a matter of time.

HCR took 50 years.

[Sarcasm] Let me just grab a beer and wait [/Sarcasm]

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sabzon 12-27-2010 04:47 AM

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*CONDITIONAL RESIDENCY* = border security measure!

1L-Deferred 12-27-2010 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DA User (Post 203022)
DA is bound to pass, its a matter of time.

I hate you. Why/How did you get unbanned

Thecure 12-27-2010 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 1L-Deferred (Post 203076)
I hate you. Why/How did you get unbanned

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withchemicals 12-27-2010 09:54 AM

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Although I do wish more DREAMers would qualify, a lot of what's said in this article is true. A 15 year old immigrant is no stranger to his home country, and lowering the age cap and the minimum age of entry requirement would get much more support. This is all on principle, and the ideal DREAMer who truly doesn't fit in his home country would be below 10 years at entry and below 30.

Then again, I do wish for the largest amount of DREAMers to qualify, so I'm a bit torn.

Again, out before angry posters.


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