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Diplok 02-23-2010 08:24 AM

Immigration reform not likely this year.
 
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SAN ANTONIO — An early congressional supporter of Barack Obama says the president has let his bully pulpit atrophy.

Rep. Charles Gonzalez (D-Texas), a Congressional Hispanic Caucus (CHC) member in his sixth term, endorsed Obama in early February 2008 over Hillary Rodham Clinton.

But he’s been disappointed in how the first year of his presidency has turned out.

“[Obama’s] greatest mistake [has been] not using the bully pulpit to be more forceful and aggressive in advancing the agenda, the priorities and his positions. I believe that he thought that would be counterproductive and would go contrary to his pledge to seek bipartisanship. I believe that he has been much too patient,” Gonzalez said in an interview with The Hill in his hometown late last week.

Sitting in Liberty Bar, a favorite Alamo City watering hole, Gonzalez pressed his point that Obama needed to demand new ideas of Republicans if bipartisanship is to be attained.

Sipping iced hibiscus and mint tea, Gonzalez said, “He should’ve set the stage from the beginning by saying, ‘This is what we inherited, and I want to work with my Republican colleagues in [formulating] solutions.’ ”

He added that Obama should have said, “I want you to come up with new ideas. Do not continue to propose that which got us in trouble.”

“He never did that,” Gonzalez said. “He may have done that once.”

Gonzalez, 64, stresses he’s confident Obama can rebound.

“Am I disappointed in some things? Yeah. But I still have great faith in the president. He is an incredible talent.”

The White House did not comment for this article.

After a day of traveling around his Texas district at several events, one to tout a $200,000 earmark he was able to secure for San Antonio’s Rape Crisis Center, another to promote 2010 census awareness at a local college campus with the National Census Bus, the veteran Texas lawmaker opened up on his own frustrations with the Democratic Party.

Unlike some other Democrats in Congress, Gonzalez has little to worry about this November. In 2008, he won his race with 72 percent of the vote. Obama won his 20th district by 27 points over Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

Gonzalez, who holds the seat his father occupied for 37 years before him, learned early on in politics that whoever defines the debate wins it.

And Democrats have allowed Republicans to define the healthcare debate in terms of government takeover and death panels, Gonzalez said.

By doing so, Republicans, he believes, have created a “poisonous legislative environment,” a tough situation when other reforms need to be made.

Immigration, a topic that factors heavily in his majority-Hispanic district, is not likely to get done this year.

“Immigration reform is a heavy lift in many ways. It was encouraging that the president made mention of it in the State of the Union, but I don’t know in this political climate that you’re going to be given the time to argue the needs and benefits of it,” the member of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus said.

Asked if he could envision a smaller immigration bill moving forward, such as Sen. Dick Durbin’s (D-Ill.) DREAM Act, Gonzalez — who has opposed a piecemeal approach to immigration reform — was less than optimistic.

Gonzalez said regardless of scope, immigration reform will always have fierce critics.

Gonzalez, a former county and state judge, continued, “I hope I am totally wrong, but I believe that the opposition just doesn’t see any political capital in being part of any effort that would be interpreted as being a success for the party in power.”

For that reason, he finds it hard to envision a true compromise with Republicans on healthcare reform.

The Energy and Commerce Committee member contends that the problem with wanting to strike a deal with the GOP is that “compromising with Republicans … when they do come forward with a proposal, it guts the underlying bill.”

The Energy and Commerce Committee member cited the GOP alternative to the Democrats’ climate change bill that passed the House in June.

“Their proposal was: ‘Gee, Charlie, we’ll help you with some of that stuff, if you’ll vote with us to take cap-and-trade out of the bill.’ That’s like saying, when they were doing their tax cuts, their Bush tax cuts, they come to Charlie Gonzalez and go, ‘Can you reach a deal with us?’ and I say, ‘On those tax cuts? Yeah, I’ll work with you as long as we increase taxes.’ ”

Gonzalez acknowledged that Democrats will likely have to give on some aspects of their healthcare reform bill. He showed with a shake of his head that he is frustrated with how Democrats ended up in the position they’re in.

Democrats should have kept it simple, he said, and hit several main points of their plan: “We should have done an A, B, C and stuck with the fundamentals and kept banging and banging and banging” while explaining “the immediate benefits to constituents.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/83...ch-too-patient

kenny1314 02-23-2010 12:15 PM

Re: Immigration reform not likely this year.
 
i can tell congress is a BS all the time. from last year, they said we will start immigration early next year. and this year, they change another story said not likely pass this year maybe next. man think about the people first, not ur own Democrats or republican benefit!

NoWhereToRun 02-23-2010 12:42 PM

Re: Immigration reform not likely this year.
 
"House Democratic lawmaker faults Obama for being 'too patient' The Hill "

total dejavu....am i being pessimistic. When obama decides to tackle immigration issue it will b too late. too many personal problems in congress and no unity.

OrlandoDREAM Act 02-23-2010 04:41 PM

Re: Immigration reform not likely this year.
 
Healthcare is sucking up too much oxygen. They should have laid down the law or given up a long time ago. But hey, dems have bene trying to do this for decades and got elected to do this. Just hope against all hope that there is no opening in the Supreme Court.

Mona Lisa 02-23-2010 08:02 PM

Re: Immigration reform not likely this year.
 
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Originally Posted by NoWhereToRun (Post 151722)
"House Democratic lawmaker faults Obama for being 'too patient' The Hill "

total dejavu....am i being pessimistic. When obama decides to tackle immigration issue it will b too late. too many personal problems in congress and no unity.

Yeah, its going to be too late. I bet they wont even vote on Health Care until summer time, and when that day comes they will find something wrong with it and push it further.

These people cant do anything right, but Obama does have time to have dinner with Shakira.

Dreamer X 02-23-2010 08:10 PM

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I'm f*cked...i still have status but it'll expire this August...-_- F*ck me

Feenmi 02-23-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mona Lisa (Post 151749)
Yeah, its going to be too late. I bet they wont even vote on Health Care until summer time, and when that day comes they will find something wrong with it and push it further.

These people cant do anything right, but Obama does have time to have dinner with Shakira.

Pfffft I would too! She's hawt. :lol:


SHAKIRA > Madonna

:lol::lol:

txdream 02-23-2010 11:50 PM

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Obama is full of sh**, I hope you all finally see this... Hillary Clinton FTW!! If she was pres we would of all been driving and living out dreams.

Flame on!

stilldreamin 02-24-2010 12:36 AM

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Obama technically isnt full of s---, deceving yes, but full of shit, no. He Actually wants things done, but cant do them on his own. He's full of promises, but promises have no deadline, and congress seems to think they dont need to have one either.
So all in all, The whole damn gov't is full of s---.

i know i kinda contradicted myself, but i dont like the idea of blaming just ONE person for such mishaps.
On another note, CIR = dumpster behind the white house. We all need to face it. I can't stand the beating around the bush, I dont see any significance/importance in ALL the other bills (other than healthcare) they keep bs-ing about.

But at the same time, we ALL need to work to make the Dream Act a Stand-Alone bill, Its really not that difficult. And its by far the only part of an immigration bill in today's govt view that makes the MOST sense.

What beats me in the head is the fact that they're putting they're personal views first instead of what it could be worth to them, $$$$. Not only the initial fees, but If they open the doors of opportunity for me, i'll pay them as many tax dollars as they humanly want from me. Seriously.

OrlandoDREAM Act 02-24-2010 01:02 AM

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Dems should have given the Reps every papal encyclical and the entire Lord of the Rings collection and have them read them (calling the bluff) or given up around October. And stilldreaming, we shouldn't give up on DREAM until is really over. If one thinks about it, thereis no need for DREAM if CIR passes. One either pays a fine or run the risk of going broke by going to college.


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