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DaLastHope 07-01-2010 09:19 PM

The President Speach & a Q&A on CIR
 
The President

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzuqk...c8&feature=sub

The Q&A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZBkD...xA&feature=sub

euchante 07-01-2010 09:30 PM

Re: The President Speach & a Q&A on CIR
 
blah blah blah stuff we aint ever heard before!!!!

DaLastHope 07-01-2010 09:42 PM

Re: The President Speach & a Q&A on CIR
 
the Q&A was the best part! But your right!!! blah blah blah

Jefe 07-01-2010 09:46 PM

Re: The President Speach & a Q&A on CIR
 
18:40 - 19:20 hints at DA

25:00 - 26:00 mentions Dream Act

dado123 07-01-2010 10:02 PM

Re: The President Speach & a Q&A on CIR
 
Without listening, seems an effort to get an edge over republicans. I don't buy they are to blame for no CIR, he did pass health care reform w/out a single republican vote.

hef107 07-01-2010 10:57 PM

Re: The President Speach & a Q&A on CIR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dado123 (Post 164839)
Without listening, seems an effort to get an edge over republicans. I don't buy they are to blame for no CIR, he did pass health care reform w/out a single republican vote.

I was wondering how Health Reform came to a pass, yet CIR seems like its on a different path.

Feenmi 07-01-2010 11:10 PM

Re: The President Speach & a Q&A on CIR
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dado123 (Post 164839)
Without listening, seems an effort to get an edge over republicans. I don't buy they are to blame for no CIR, he did pass health care reform w/out a single republican vote.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hef107 (Post 164848)
I was wondering how Health Reform came to a pass, yet CIR seems like its on a different path.

Thats because they had 60 Dems then. With Brown being elected, they only have 59 now.

So, out of the 60 needed. only 59 are Dems. Therefore they need a Republican (at least ONE) to vote with them.

59+1= 60


Simple math, kids.

OrlandoDREAM Act 07-01-2010 11:12 PM

Re: The President Speach & a Q&A on CIR
 
and that is lugar.

dtrt09 07-01-2010 11:18 PM

Re: The President Speach & a Q&A on CIR
 
Corrections for all of the above:
1-The Democrats have 58 *members* in the Senate ,as I'm sure ALL of you know by now, Sen. Byrd passed away.
2-Not all Democrats support CIR on its face and need to be cajoled by leadership to vote "yes".
3-Insurance reform (aka, "health" reform) was passed thru reconciliation. See trickery abounds in law-making if you're really, really interested in making it happen.

And this last point is why Obama says he needs a handful of Republican votes, not just the two needed to make 60, and is the reason he mentioned the "11" Republicans who voted "yes" in 2007.

dado123 07-01-2010 11:20 PM

Re: The President Speach & a Q&A on CIR
 
Comments appreciated, but this is how the Senate passed w/out any Republican vote:

QT>>>>>>>
Reid: Dems will use 50-vote tactic to finish healthcare in 60 days
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...within-60-days
UNQT>>>>>>>

why can CIR not be passed within same vain ?


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