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Transcript of President Barack Obama with Univision
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I thought most people have come to the conclusion that CIR is not realistic anytime soon? There is nothing left to discuss IMO. |
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I have already mentioned it before, pass the DA first, lets the people that are covered come out and further support something more comprehensive in numbers. Right now the beneficiaries of both bills are kept mostly underground because there is a huge potential for repercussions if they speak out.
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u know the La Raza people?... yea those people; good luck tryna tell them to ONLY support DA. they will say "CIR as a whole or nothing"... i don't like that org; they are for the politics
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dude this is bullshit really i thought he was the one saying yea were goin to pass the dream act since it looks like we can't pass the cir and he been saying that for a while yea we can't pass cir this year he said that like a million time we can't pass cir this the climate won't allow us now he is sayin this crap look i loved the guy and i supported him every step of the way but this is bull im tired of this crap from him.....this is just so amazing how they go back and forth back and forth.....man i say we should all just be independent when we are allow to vote screw both dems and rep. oh yea they both are goin want my vote dam right i want them to fight for my vote like dogs they are......well yea.......bunch of b.s. from the president himself nothing to see here...keep moving to the next douche....
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LA RAZA always kills our Dream dude wtf.
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I don't know why but I have a feeling if Democratss by some chance win the elections next week or at least keep some decent amount of their seats they'll be like, "hey let's push for CIR and forget about dream act as standalone", leading to another huge debate and a deadlock congress that doesn't work with each other resulting in nothing getting done because of no Supermajority! I hope I'm being stupid and wrong but I would rather have a them realize they can't pass CIR for a while and should start focusing on some more tame legislation like DREAM after the elections if they lose. I know it sounds stupid but really, politicians seem to only get things done when their backs are against the wall. Obama had a chance to be the Democrat's Reagan, hopefully he dosen't become another Jimmy Carter. I know it's not all his fault, the whole system in F**K'D. If only republicans realized that a lot of immigrants including Latinos support there conservative Values but usually don't vote for them because of immigration.
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Well get on with that judgement already because its obvious CIR aint gonna go through a minority Republican congress let along one that will be 50% controlled by them.
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Re: Transcript of President Barack Obama with Univision
Well, we have to realize that there are going to be 8-10 million people not covered by the DA, those 8-10 million would feel the need to voice their anger at not having something that they and many people, in my opinion, falsely believe will give a greater possibility of their reform passing, unfortunately this government and many people take the business approach to things which has a tendency of making decision on potential short term benefits and results, and I feel long term the DA passing as a stand alone bill would have the fastest and best benefit for everyone that is in this situation.
As for voting for independents, well, they are usually independents because they used to be dems or reps and realized that someone else had a better chance so they immediately switched to independent and try to tell the people that deep down in their hearts they were always independent, while in the previous life they used to be very much to the right or left. Who was it that felt in the beginning that the DA needed to be postponed and united with the CIR because they felt that passing the DA might decrease the possibilities of passing the more comprehensive immigration reform? This is not a new theory, it has been out there for a while now, unfortunately. |
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Let's hope the damage is not as bad after mid terms if they can pass the Dream Act in November the new Congress could actually get CIR done.
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CIR is NOT going to pass. Not with Democrats as majority nor minority. CIR is NOT going to pass. To me, based on the way Obama phrased it, it sounds like the DA will not pass this year or anytime in the near future. So make plans in your life accordingly. |
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