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dreamer4ever 12-14-2010 12:35 AM

Door open for Reid to bring up 'Dream Act' proposal
 
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=239397

Push Push Push ! ! !

dado123 12-14-2010 12:38 AM

Re: Door open for Reid to bring up 'Dream Act' proposal
 
Dreamers read for yourselves^^^, the Anti's are on full alert, lets continue working, this is not going to happen by itself, we need to work very hard for it.

hgr1915 12-14-2010 12:55 AM

Re: Door open for Reid to bring up 'Dream Act' proposal
 
So are the antis making more phone calls than us??????

AL 12-14-2010 01:29 AM

Re: Door open for Reid to bring up 'Dream Act' proposal
 
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Originally Posted by hgr1915 (Post 196785)
So are the antis making more phone calls than us??????

Most likely, they even have political pacs working against us. Basically, most of what we have is our influence in our communities. Not to mention, our pursuit of happiness. So keep up the good fight dreamers.

AL 12-14-2010 01:32 AM

Re: Door open for Reid to bring up 'Dream Act' proposal
 
Oh I forgot, whats up with the media calling the dream act a controversial act just because there isn't enough votes for cloture. I have a feeling that the corporate media is also working against us. Since saying that the dream act is controversial because it might lack enough votes for cloture is saying that DADT repeal, START, and 9/11 health respondent bill are also controversial, just saying.

dreamality 12-14-2010 01:40 AM

Re: Door open for Reid to bring up 'Dream Act' proposal
 
--HERE'S THE ENTIRE ARTICLE--

Supporters of the DREAM Act continue to believe the House's approval of the bill by a 216-198 vote sets the stage for its passage by the Senate before the lame duck Congress adjourns at the end of the month.

After considerable maneuvering in the Senate last week, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is now free to bring up in the Senate the version of the DREAM Act passed last Wednesday in the House.

Reid and Sen. Dick Durbin, R- Ill., the Senate Democratic Party whip, said in a joint statement Thursday that they will work with House leaders to assure passage of the DREAM Act before the end of the current lame duck session of Congress.

"Only a massive reaction from the American people can stop the DREAM Act from passing the Senate before Christmas," William Gheen, head of Americans for Legal Immigration, told WND.

"Most Americans are not aware that the DREAM Act is close to passing at any moment," he said. "We are asking our activists to start climbing over the walls to rally talk radio and warn hosts that the hour is late, the situation is dire and only a massive reaction from the American public can stop Dream Amnesty from passing before Christmas."

Activists supporting the DREAM Act are also making calls for a public outcry to influence Congress before the end of December.

A torch rally pilgrimage that began 72 days ago in Mexico City at Mexico City's Basilica Guadalupe culminated Sunday at St. Patrick's Cathedral in New York City, with a group estimated at 5,000 greeting runners that had crossed 3,000 miles through nine Mexican states and 12 U.S. states to express their support for the DREAM Act.

The bill offers permanent legal status to illegal immigrants up to age 35 who arrived in the United States before age 16, provided they complete two years of college or two years of U.S. military service.

Steven Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies, estimates more than 1 million illegal immigrants will eventually enroll in community colleges or state universities as a result of the DREAM Act.

Camarota anticipates that with the low income of most illegal immigrants, about 80 percent of the illegal immigrants attending institutions of higher learning under the DREAM Act would gravitate to community colleges and state universities.

"Given limited space and limited funding at community colleges and state universities, illegal immigrants will crowd out U.S. citizens and legal immigrants in the United States," Camarota told WND.

Under the DREAM Act, illegal immigrants attending community colleges or public universities would receive in-state tuition.

Camarota estimates that on average, each illegal immigrant who attends a public institution will receive a tuition subsidy from taxpayers of nearly $6,000 for each year he or she attends, for a total cost of $6.2 billion a year, not including other forms of financial assistance they may also receive.

The DREAM Act does not provide funding to states or counties to cover the in-state tuition subsidies the bill mandates.

The bill also does not provide any enforcement mechanism to screen out fraud committed by applicants who may not meet its requirements, including the requirement that the applicant first came to the U.S. illegally before age 16.

Without an enforcement mechanism, Gheen estimates that the number of illegal immigrants applying for citizenship under the DREAM Act could turn out to total 2 to 3 million, not just the 1 million illegal immigrants truly in the U.S. before age 16.

"Whether the DREAM Act passes the Senate is entirely dependent upon whether or not the bill's supporters can find the 60 votes needed to break a filibuster," Camarota said, noting that Reid could not rely on all Senate Democrats to hold party line and vote for the legislation.

Numbers USA agrees, noting that Congress was flooded last week with phone calls opposing passage of the DREAM Act.

Numbers USA has targeted the following 10 senators as undecided votes on the DREAM Act:


* Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska
DC: (202) 224-6665 Local: (907) 271-3735

* Mary Landrieu, D-Louis.
DC: (202) 224-5824 Local: (225) 389-0395

* Susan Collins, R-Maine
DC: (202) 224-2523 Local: (207) 622-8414

* Olympia Snowe, R-Maine
DC: (202) 224-5344 Local: (207) 622-8292

* Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich.
DC: (202) 224-4822 Local: (313) 961-4330

* Claire McCaskill, D-Miss.
DC: (202) 224-6154 Local: (314) 367-1364

* Max Baucus, D-Mont.
DC: (202) 224-2651 Local: (406) 657-6790

* Byron Dorgan, D-N.D.
DC: (202) 224-2551 Local: (701) 250-4618

* Kent Conrad, D-N.D.
DC: (202) 224-2043 Local: (701) 258-4648

* Joe Manchin, D-W.Va.
DC: (202) 224-3954 Local: (304) 264-4626


--KEEP CALLING THESE FOLKS--

Transcend 12-14-2010 01:45 AM

Re: Door open for Reid to bring up 'Dream Act' proposal
 
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Originally Posted by AL (Post 196796)
Oh I forgot, whats up with the media calling the dream act a controversial act just because there isn't enough votes for cloture. I have a feeling that the corporate media is also working against us. Since saying that the dream act is controversial because it might lack enough votes for cloture is saying that DADT repeal, START, and 9/11 health respondent bill are also controversial, just saying.


They are all considered controversial bill. I have heard at least one news host describe them as controversial...

9/11 is dead
DADT is dead
DREAM is postponed

I guess the START has the best chance of passing...
(lol the Russians must be laughing at the politicians and Obama, because it is taking forever to get something done at the hill... the russians would have passed it in prob 2 days)

idk... maybe unresponsive and slow legislative branch is good for stability...

AL 12-14-2010 01:52 AM

Re: Door open for Reid to bring up 'Dream Act' proposal
 
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Originally Posted by Transcend (Post 196801)
They are all considered controversial bill. I have heard at least one news host describe them as controversial...

9/11 is dead
DADT is dead
DREAM is postponed

I guess the START has the best chance of passing...
(lol the Russians must be laughing at the politicians and Obama, because it is taking forever to get something done at the hill... the russians would have passed it in prob 2 days)

idk... maybe unresponsive and slow legislative branch is good for stability...

My point is that the bill is not as controversial as its being portrait by the media. I understand WND is not the best of friends but other media outlets have been outlining that the bills are controversial but fail to mention that the reason is because of the capitol hill's super majority dilemma. Im sorry is late and Im all in arms about the situation. I just hope the dream can go around the whole super majority dilemma before the 111th congress ends.

Mona Lisa 12-14-2010 01:59 AM

Re: Door open for Reid to bring up 'Dream Act' proposal
 
I thought Murkowski was a yes

Transcend 12-14-2010 02:21 AM

Re: Door open for Reid to bring up 'Dream Act' proposal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AL (Post 196805)
My point is that the bill is not as controversial as its being portrait by the media. I understand WND is not the best of friends but other media outlets have been outlining that the bills are controversial but fail to mention that the reason is because of the capitol hill's super majority dilemma. Im sorry is late and Im all in arms about the situation. I just hope the dream can go around the whole super majority dilemma before the 111th congress ends.

Wouldn't it be nice if just, just this time, a bill could pass by simple majority and not 3/5 vote.

My Wishes:

That a genie comes to Reid and grants him one wish... but he will prob ask for 1billion dollar or life long term in the senate....you greedy ...

When a vote come up for DREAM Act, the republicans all experience temporary brain freeze, and forget to filibuster the bill...
and later, they ll be like: "ohhh sheezzz..oh dang...our contituents are not gonna like this"


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