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Alex QA 10-20-2011 11:50 PM

Birther’ Claims that Rubio is Ineligible to be President Are Dangerous, Say Experts
 
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...d-say-experts/

Some of the same “birthers” who challenged Barack Obama’s citizenship are now questioning Florida Senator Marco Rubio’s eligibility to run for president or vice president of the United States – a charge Latino legal experts call ‘absurd’ and ‘dangerous.’

The birthers, a name used for individuals who committed themselves to disqualifying Barack Obama from becoming president based on questions over his birth certificate, say that the Cuban-born Rubio is ineligible for the Oval Office under Article 2 of the Constitution, which says “no person except a natural born citizen…shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

Charles Kerchner, a birther blogger, says Rubio, though born in the United States, was not born to U.S. citizens and therefore can’t be characterized as a natural born citizen.

Rubio’s office says he was born in 1971 at Cedars of Lebanon Hospital, but that his parents did not become citizens until 1975. Kerchner, according to his understanding of the Constitution, believes that makes Rubio ineligible for the office.

Alfonso Aguilar, former chief of the U.S. Office of Citizenship under the George W. Bush administration, said that claim is preposterous.

“That is absurd. It has no constitutional basis if you are born in the United States or in U.S. territory, you are a natural born citizen. Just like John McCain, who was born in U.S. territory in Panama, Marco Rubio was born in the mainland United States – it doesn’t matter who your parents are,” Aguilar, who is currently the Executive Director of the Latino Partnership for Conservative Principles, tells Fox News Latino. “I guess the birthers are not conservative. They are advancing arguments that not only have no constitutional basis but they are un-American, un-patriotic and dangerous.”

Talk over Rubio’s status as a U.S. citizen began in May on a blog written by Kerchner, who obtained copies of the naturalization petitions by the senator’s parents.

Kerchner believes Rubio is no different than Obama, whose father was a Kenyan national. He still doubts whether Obama was even born in Hawaii; regardless, he believes Obama is ineligible to be president because he was not born to two U.S. citizens, according to the St. Petersburg Times.

“Senator Marco Rubio is NOT a natural born Citizen. He was born with dual allegiance,”the May blog post read.

The same post also called for Rubio to investigate President Obama to be removed from office because of “election fraud and criminal activities such as SSN fraud and draft registration fraud.”

Fox News Latino contacted Rubio’s press office for comment, but was referred to the senator’s comments in this St. Petersburg Times story.

“The price of our freedom and our liberty is that people can go out and spend a lot of time on stuff like this,” Rubio told the paper. “For us, the more important things is to focus on our job.”

He told the St. Petersburg Times that he does not know why his parents waited so long to apply for citizenship but that their plight as exiles is appropriate.

“Anyone who can’t return to their natural country is an exile, if you can’t return for political reasons,” he said.

Juan Cartagena, president and general counsel of the civil rights organization LatinoJustice-PRLDEF, believes the birthers’ attitudes transcend the many issues addressing Latinos today because they are taking the brunt of those against birthright citizenship.

“If you start attaching conditions to the parents of the children who are born in the United States you go down a slippery slope. The bottom line is we have a country that is devised by this foundation of laws…we are flying in the face of what is considered basic human rights presets, ” he said.

“The birther movement is just an extension of whether people born in the United States should be citizens,” he added.

Cartagena believes the claims can be viewed as bigoted.

“Yes, I see this as part and parcel of differentiating people, not based on their merits but based on technical and erroneous interpretations of law,” he said.

As for Rubio, there are different opinions about what the Republican rising star should do in response to these concerns.

Aguilar believes that he should address the birthers directly because the challenge is bigger than him.

“It is an attack against so many Latino immigrants that come to this country not for handouts, not for social benefits but to become part of America,” he said.


Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/pol...#ixzz1bNv56Itc

Alex QA 10-20-2011 11:52 PM

Re: Birther’ Claims that Rubio is Ineligible to be President Are Dangerous, Say Exper
 
I hope they keep bashing on Rubio, sell out piece of shit.

Smooth 10-21-2011 12:03 AM

Re: Birther’ Claims that Rubio is Ineligible to be President Are Dangerous, Say Exper
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex QA (Post 237287)
I hope they keep bashing on Rubio, sell out piece of shit.

^This.

xangal 10-21-2011 12:40 AM

Re: Birther’ Claims that Rubio is Ineligible to be President Are Dangerous, Say Exper
 
There's always been a weird vibe between Cuban immigrants and every other 'type' of immigrant.

tyler129 10-21-2011 11:27 AM

Re: Birther’ Claims that Rubio is Ineligible to be President Are Dangerous, Say Exper
 
wipe the floor with Rubio and then throw him away like a dirty rag

MalditoDuende 10-21-2011 01:06 PM

Re: Birther’ Claims that Rubio is Ineligible to be President Are Dangerous, Say Exper
 
that douchebag probably doesnt realize that the same Tea party idiots he panders to call him a spic behind his back...

Al in SoCal 10-22-2011 12:02 AM

Re: Birther’ Claims that Rubio is Ineligible to be President Are Dangerous, Say Exper
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xangal (Post 237289)
There's always been a weird vibe between Cuban immigrants and every other 'type' of immigrant.

Cubans think their reasons for immigration entitle them to US legal residency the second they hit Miami Beach. Many feel that their reasons are superior to any other reason for coming to the US. That entitlement and the fact that they live in a state where their votes count, and the fact that they do, in fact, vote every election cycle means they get pandered to quite a bit - mostly be Republicans.

It's really the only flavor of brown people the GOP likes.

Al in SoCal 10-22-2011 12:03 AM

Re: Birther’ Claims that Rubio is Ineligible to be President Are Dangerous, Say Exper
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MalditoDuende (Post 237336)
that douchebag probably doesnt realize that the same Tea party idiots he panders to call him a spic behind his back...

No, even sadder is that he knows exactly what they think of him, yet he still stands by their side. Same with Bobby Jindal, same with Mitt Romney due to his Mormonism.

h3wlett 10-22-2011 03:46 AM

Re: Birther’ Claims that Rubio is Ineligible to be President Are Dangerous, Say Exper
 
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eddy 10-22-2011 12:13 PM

Re: Birther’ Claims that Rubio is Ineligible to be President Are Dangerous, Say Exper
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Al in SoCal (Post 237416)
Cubans think their reasons for immigration entitle them to US legal residency the second they hit Miami Beach. Many feel that their reasons are superior to any other reason for coming to the US. That entitlement and the fact that they live in a state where their votes count, and the fact that they do, in fact, vote every election cycle means they get pandered to quite a bit - mostly be Republicans.

It's really the only flavor of brown people the GOP likes.

Cubans get permanent residency just for hitting Miami Beach...


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