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immigration truth 04-26-2012 11:43 AM

New Details!!!!!!
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/an-im...ampaign=recirc

Rubio's Compromise For The Dream Act Could Help Save The Republican Party
Larry M. Elkin, Palisades Hudson | Apr. 26, 2012, 9:18 AM | 42 |

Successful politicians, by definition, look for opportunities to advance themselves and their parties. Occasionally, the right thing to do and the politically expedient thing to do are one and the same.
Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., last week proposed a compromise on the Dream Act that promises to serve both as a means of partially repairing the relationship between the Republican Party and Hispanic voters and as a way for young people who are American by experience, if not a birth, to legally stay in the country they know as home.
The Dream Act was first drafted in 2001, and was designed to offer individuals who came to the United States illegally as children a path to citizenship if they attended college or joined the military. Since then, it has attracted some bipartisan support, but has fallen short of passage. Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill., reintroduced the current version but, for the first time in the bill’s history, no Republican has stepped up as a cosponsor.
Rubio’s newly proposed version of the bill, which he plans to unveil in the next few weeks, would eliminate the specific path to citizenship for these young people outlined in former versions.
But it would still grant them non-immigrant visas, allowing them to live, study and work in the United States while following existing routes toward naturalization. The visas would be available only to high school graduates with no criminal record who were brought into the U.S. before a still-to-be-established cutoff date.
Both those who support and those who oppose the Dream Act have accused their opponents of using the issue for self-serving political purposes. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, suggested that Democrats’ interest in providing more immigrants with pathways to citizenship stems solely from a desire for votes. Democrats “see people in this country illegally as undocumented Democrats,” he said.
Meanwhile, some immigration reform advocates have criticized Rubio’s proposal as a hollow gesture, intended to make the Republican Party seem kinder and gentler to the growing bloc of Hispanic voters without providing any meaningful benefit for immigrants. Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, an organization that advocates immigration reform, asked: “Is this really a legislative initiative or a political ploy? If it’s about a political ploy, it’s about throwing a lifeline to Romney, rather than throwing a lifeline to the dreamers.”
I agree that Rubio’s proposal is likely to offer Republicans a political benefit. For years, a loud and angry subset of the party’s base has demanded that the GOP espouse strongly anti-immigrant positions. While a minority of the party, notably including former President George W. Bush and his brother, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, has continued to press for moderation, they have been unable to stop a rising tide of anti-foreign sentiment.
After all, we could eliminate most illegal immigration by making it much easier for foreigners, particularly in neighboring Latin America, to obtain permission to live and work here legally. However, there is no significant support in either party for this course. Democrats are too beholden to their union base, while Republicans who demand that illegal immigrants go home seem to be in no hurry to authorize their legal return.
In seeking to appease their party’s anti-immigrant base during the presidential primary season, Republican candidates pushed each other toward increasingly unpalatable positions. Mitt Romney grabbed a spot near the far right end of the spectrum. He promised to veto the Dream Act; suggested that Arizona, known for its draconian approach to immigration, might serve as a model for the nation on the issue; and attacked Texas Gov. Rick Perry for providing in-state tuition to young illegal immigrants in Texas.
Such statements will not serve Romney well in the general election, and he knows it. At a recent closed-door fund-raiser in Florida, reporters overheard Romney telling supporters, “We have to get Hispanic voters to vote for our party.” He warned that recent polling of the Spanish-speaking electorate “spells doom for us.”
Around 21 million eligible voters currently identify themselves as Hispanic. Among registered Hispanic voters, Obama leads Romney 67 percent to 27 percent, according to a recent Pew Research Center survey. For Romney, that margin could indeed spell doom. An overly abrupt change of heart on immigration, however, could put Romney at odds with conservative Republicans who already are lukewarm about him.
Enter Rubio. The Cuban-American senator has long urged his party to tone down anti-immigrant rhetoric. This allows him to propose a compromise such as the revised Dream Act without appearing to flip-flop. Despite his insistence that he has no interest in the vice presidency, Rubio’s name has become a favorite in the speculative games of the punditry. Romney has so far taken a cautious approach toward Rubio’s proposed Dream Act revision. “Governor Romney will study and consider any proposals on immigration from his Republican partners,” a campaign spokeswoman said, according to The New York Times.
But just because the proposal may be politically advantageous for Rubio and his party doesn’t mean it cannot also be the right thing to do.
Some version of the Dream Act is necessary. Rubio’s compromise may be the best hope for now of a bill that can pass, though I would bet against anything happening before the election.
As I have written many times, I believe immigration is vital to maintaining America’s place as a country of constant innovation and progress. It is particularly easy to support legislation for the benefit of young people who grew up here, attended school here, and are “illegal” through absolutely no fault of their own.
Ideally, I would like a clear route for these young people to become citizens. But they cannot be expected to wait until the political landscape changes enough for such a law to be possible. They deserve the best that we can offer them right now, which is what Rubio’s proposal would deliver.
“We have these very talented young people in America who find themselves in limbo through no fault of their own,” Rubio said. It’s time we offer them a bridge out of that limbo.
And if the Republican Party can build a bridge from its primary-fueled anti-immigration hard line to a more general-election-friendly position at the same time, all the better.

immigration truth 04-26-2012 11:44 AM

Re: New Details!!!!!!
 
Two most important details of this article

1. The rubio DA will be introduced over the next few weeks
2. It will not be based on age, but rather on a cut off date.

immigration truth 04-26-2012 11:48 AM

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Thoughts????

GNIGHT 04-26-2012 11:58 AM

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Would a misdemeanor count? Cause I know Durbin's dream act mentioned "felonies". Can't wait to read more about that so I can get a lawyer and find a way to lower my misdemeanor to a violation at least.

immigration truth 04-26-2012 12:01 PM

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http://miamiherald.typepad.com/naked...ls-please.html

The Congressional Hispanic caucus has though stated that they want more details(stated by Rep. Gutierrez) but that they MIGHT be committed to further discussions. What appears to be happening is pressure is starting to mount on Rubio to release the bill, my guess is by mid-may this is introduced, and then the battles will begin. I have a feeling the cut-off date is going to enflame people, my feeling is they'll put it in the late 90s-early 2000s. I might be wrong though, but it is clear we're heading to the interesting showdown.

immigration truth 04-26-2012 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GNIGHT (Post 252480)
Would a misdemeanor count? Cause I know Durbin's dream act mentioned "felonies". Can't wait to read more about that so I can get a lawyer and find a way to lower my misdemeanor to a violation at least.

That's a really interesting point, that's another detail he needs to flesh out. Rubio needs to stop hyping the bill and finally introduce it. I just have the feeling thought hat the cut-off date is going to be crucial. If they place it too recently, it's going to cause way too much controversy and republicans might want it to be inclined towards dreamers with a long presence in the nation as a too recent cut off date could be cited by them as overt "amnesty".

iDream 04-26-2012 12:13 PM

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Hmm im worried about the cut off date...
Fuck dude, why cant he just pull out the fucken bill!!

TexasDreamy 04-26-2012 12:15 PM

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Awww shit, I've been in the country since '96, but I had a few months absence in '03. Hopefully 9 years in the country is enough.

(On the bright side, I think once you've been here 10 years and get stopped, they're a bit more lenient. Woot.)

juvi 04-26-2012 12:42 PM

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What constitutes a criminal record? I was arrested a few years ago for driving without proper identification, I was released a few hours afterwards. I hope that's not too serious.

DA User 04-26-2012 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by immigration truth (Post 252475)
Two most important details of this article

1. The rubio DA will be introduced over the next few weeks
2. It will not be based on age, but rather on a cut off date.

Cut off date for what?


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